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    Post #1 - October 18th, 2006, 6:50 am
    Post #1 - October 18th, 2006, 6:50 am Post #1 - October 18th, 2006, 6:50 am
    LTH,

    Had a pleasant solo lunch at the latest Middle Eastern restaurant to occupy 4835 N Kedzie, Iraqi Kabab House. In the last 6 or so months it has been Sahar Pita, run by a family member of the jewelbox of a grocery Sahar Meat Market, lovingly outlined here by Antonius, then, also, Sahar Pita, though different owner.

    The new owners made a number of changes to the space, taking out the fast-food(ish) counter, adding real tables, and small touches such as artwork, and a nice array of condiments on the table.

    Iraqi Kabab House
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    Strong flavorful tea is included with lunch.
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    Vegetarian combo ($7) includes tea, really-good split pea soup, baba ghanouj, hummus, slightly warm thin pita, and mediocre, at best, falafel. Falafel were very dense, obviously reheated, and not on par with the rest of the meal. I attribute this to the fact soup, hummus, baba g hold well, falafel don't. There are a number of excellent Middle Eastern restaurants within walking distance, two of which are amongst my favorites for falafel, Salam/chickpea falafel, City Noor/fava bean falafel.

    Iraqi Kabab House Vegetarian Combo
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    Iraqi Kabab House Pita
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    Iraqi Kabab House is a nice addition to one of the more interesting strip malls in Chicago, housing Sahar Meat Market, a Korean Grocery (Clark Market), live charcoal Korean BBQ and the best Dolsot in town (Kang Nam Galbi), A Bosnian Pizza parlor (Noli's) and Middle Eastern sweets (Jaafer), not to mention Dunkin Donuts. :)

    Enjoy,
    Gary

    Iraqi kabab House
    4835 N Kedzie
    Chicago, IL 60625
    773-583-6695
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  • Post #2 - October 18th, 2006, 7:08 am
    Post #2 - October 18th, 2006, 7:08 am Post #2 - October 18th, 2006, 7:08 am
    Gary,

    Thanks for the post and pictures. I definitely want to visit this place soon... It's great being able to combine so easily some shopping with a meal... or is a meal with some shopping?...

    Antonius
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  • Post #3 - October 18th, 2006, 1:22 pm
    Post #3 - October 18th, 2006, 1:22 pm Post #3 - October 18th, 2006, 1:22 pm
    Incidentally, driving down Lawrence today I noticed that what I believe used to be Little Shedrak has opened as another Iraqi place-- at least one assumes a restaurant named Kirkuk is Iraqi, or Kurdish, depending on how one chooses to interpret the nationality in that region....
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  • Post #4 - October 18th, 2006, 3:21 pm
    Post #4 - October 18th, 2006, 3:21 pm Post #4 - October 18th, 2006, 3:21 pm
    That looks utterly unremarkable. If just "decent" hummus, baba ganoush, and pita, and "bad" falafel... why bother?

    As an aside, I've never known any arab people to actually eat a meal consisting strictly of hummus, baba ganoush, and soup... I've always felt taken advantage of when getting a "vegetarian platter" like that.
  • Post #5 - October 18th, 2006, 3:52 pm
    Post #5 - October 18th, 2006, 3:52 pm Post #5 - October 18th, 2006, 3:52 pm
    Also, Noli's at least used to be Albanian, not Bosnian.

    Ancient (July 2, 2003) Chowhound post:

    Stripping the mall: Noli's Pizza, Secret Albanian

    Monday Gary and I had lunch at Kang Nam, a Korean restaurant on Kedzie just north of Lawrence, in a little strip mall on the east side of the street. I am embargoed from discussing this meal until he captures the full, weepable glory of it, but seeing that the mall was chock full of interesting places, I have been back for lunch every day this week.

    Yesterday I went to Al-Ameer, which has been written about here for its brick oven (which is plainly on display, looks like an igloo next to the grill). I will have to read the past posts on it because while what I had-- kefta sandwich and baba ghanoush-- was perfectly okay, it wasn't terribly memorable, and most critically it didn't seem to involve anything baked on the premises, which would seem to be the point.

    Today, however, I went to a place which advertised itself as Noli's Pizza. Ordinarily I would assume this was a standard pizza by the slice place, likely resoundingly average, except that the word "Byrek" appears in the window. Assuming (correctly) that this was yet another ethnic variation on the Turkish borek, Greek bourekia, German bierock, etc., I went in.

    And so began my game of "guess the nationality." To the unobservant, it would seem Italian, stereotypically so both in 90% of the menu (such Ital-American standards as Hawaiian pizza and spaghetti) and for the mural of Venice. Only a cryptic "Byrek $5.00" on the menu suggested otherwise. But looking around there were other clues-- bread for sale which looked exactly like what you'd get in a Turkish restaurant; strange soft drinks which turned out to be from Slovenia; baklava on the table where the owner and the waitress were sitting. Clearly they were Eastern European or even former USSR, but from somewhere with enough of an Italian influence that they felt like the logical thing to open in America was a pizza place.

    Finally I spotted a newspaper-- Illantia, or something like that, "America's Only Albanian Weekly Newspaper." Chatting with them briefly, I asked if they served other Albanian items beside the byrek. "We hope to," was the answer. "Did you like?"

    I did like. The byrek was a giant puffy thing, not at all empanada-like as German bierocks or even the Turkish ones can be, texturally halfway between bread and filo, stuffed with spinach and salty feta (they also offer beef and cheese), and quite irresistable while hot though unlikely to keep, I think. Maybe over time it will be joined by other Albanian items-- I can't remember if we've established any other Albanian restaurants, probably one or two somewhere along Lawrence, but with luck this will expand into one and convert a few pizza seekers along the way.

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  • Post #6 - October 18th, 2006, 4:20 pm
    Post #6 - October 18th, 2006, 4:20 pm Post #6 - October 18th, 2006, 4:20 pm
    Mike G wrote:Also, Noli's at least used to be Albanian, not Bosnian.

    I stand corrected.
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  • Post #7 - October 18th, 2006, 4:27 pm
    Post #7 - October 18th, 2006, 4:27 pm Post #7 - October 18th, 2006, 4:27 pm
    jonjonjon wrote:As an aside, I've never known any arab people to actually eat a meal consisting strictly of hummus, baba ganoush, and soup... I've always felt taken advantage of when getting a "vegetarian platter" like that.

    Jon,

    Hummus, baba g and soup were good, falafel, not so much. Since I ordered the veg meal, which was exactly what I was in the mood for, I didn't feel 'taken advantage' of. Is Iraqi Kabab House my favorite Middle Eastern restaurant on that stretch of Kedzie, nope. Will I go back, absolutely, it's a new business and I'm sure they will get into a groove soon.

    Enjoy,
    Gary
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  • Post #8 - October 18th, 2006, 7:37 pm
    Post #8 - October 18th, 2006, 7:37 pm Post #8 - October 18th, 2006, 7:37 pm
    Are those falafels burnt or is it supposed to be that color?

    Also, no offense, but there may be a reason that all the parking spaces in front of the storefront are empty. But I'm just saying. :wink:
  • Post #9 - October 18th, 2006, 7:43 pm
    Post #9 - October 18th, 2006, 7:43 pm Post #9 - October 18th, 2006, 7:43 pm
    jonjonjon wrote:That looks utterly unremarkable. If just "decent" hummus, baba ganoush, and pita, and "bad" falafel... why bother?


    This is sufficiently out of the spirit of things here that it deserves comment.

    Why bother? Cause it's a new restaurant that serves a cuisine that a lot of people here like. They might get better, they might serve some interesting things that haven't turned up yet. It's worth looking into and for us to look into it, we have to know about it. So again, thanks to Gary for sharing the information.

    As an aside, I've never known any arab people to actually eat a meal consisting strictly of hummus, baba ganoush, and soup... I've always felt taken advantage of when getting a "vegetarian platter" like that.


    How can you feel taken advantage of if you order it? Why did you order it then in the first place?

    Usually, I order a platter like that to be shared as appetizers but I can well imagine being alone and in the mood for that and/or not in the mood for meat. During Lent, which I usually observe, I do order such platters and they are in fact one of the better options during that period.

    Antonius
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  • Post #10 - October 18th, 2006, 7:58 pm
    Post #10 - October 18th, 2006, 7:58 pm Post #10 - October 18th, 2006, 7:58 pm
    Why do people get so bent out of shape when somoeone criticizes things? If it deserves it then so what? Thats whats good about a culinary site if one can praise and criticize if it is relatively justified.

    Do you think the food looks attractive - I don't and so does somone else - it's not a slight on you - but on the food.

    What's worse, glorifying bad/mediocre food or cursing decent food. How about telling it straight to the point how one sees it? Is that wrong? Of course, the true test is eating it personally - but part of the fun is not being able to and hearing/seeing about to vicariously experience it and to see if it is worth going - I, personally wouldn't go here - but many might. Who is wrong?

    You look for your own personal culinary preferences...
  • Post #11 - October 18th, 2006, 8:32 pm
    Post #11 - October 18th, 2006, 8:32 pm Post #11 - October 18th, 2006, 8:32 pm
    Snark wrote:Why do people get so bent out of shape when somoeone criticizes things? If it deserves it then so what? Thats whats good about a culinary site if one can praise and criticize if it is relatively justified.


    And another thing that's good about a culinary chat site is that a discussion can develop. If everything is open to criticism, then isn't the criticism itself open to it?

    I'm not sure who got "bent out of shape", but rather someone responded to the question of "why bother?" with a perfectly reasonable answer.

    Best,
    Michael
  • Post #12 - October 18th, 2006, 8:34 pm
    Post #12 - October 18th, 2006, 8:34 pm Post #12 - October 18th, 2006, 8:34 pm
    Snark wrote:Also, no offense, but there may be a reason that all the parking spaces in front of the storefront are empty. But I'm just saying. :wink:

    Snark,

    That makes as much sense as saying a Chinese restaurant isn't authentic because it doesn't play Chinese music. ;)

    Enjoy,
    Gary
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  • Post #13 - October 18th, 2006, 8:36 pm
    Post #13 - October 18th, 2006, 8:36 pm Post #13 - October 18th, 2006, 8:36 pm
    eatchicago wrote:I'm not sure who got "bent out of shape", but rather someone responded to the question of "why bother?" with a perfectly reasonable answer.


    Michael,

    Thank you.

    Antonius
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  • Post #14 - October 18th, 2006, 8:45 pm
    Post #14 - October 18th, 2006, 8:45 pm Post #14 - October 18th, 2006, 8:45 pm
    This is sufficiently out of the spirit of things here that it deserves comment.

    Why bother? Cause it's a new restaurant that serves a cuisine that a lot of people here like


    So, if it is a new restaurant you can't criticize it? What? It happens all the time. And it is usually a harbinger of things to come. What is your argument? Mine is simply that the food looks like shit. Tell me how it doesn't?

    Also, no offense, but there may be a reason that all the parking spaces in front of the storefront are empty. But I'm just saying.


    That makes as much sense as saying a Chinese restaurant isn't authentic because it doesn't play Chinese music.


    You know it was tongue in cheek...And I would hope my Chinese restaurant would have Chinese music!
  • Post #15 - October 18th, 2006, 8:57 pm
    Post #15 - October 18th, 2006, 8:57 pm Post #15 - October 18th, 2006, 8:57 pm
    Snark wrote:
    This is sufficiently out of the spirit of things here that it deserves comment.

    Why bother? Cause it's a new restaurant that serves a cuisine that a lot of people here like


    So, if it is a new restaurant you can't criticize it? What? It happens all the time. And it is usually a harbinger of things to come. What is your argument? Mine is simply that the food looks like shit. Tell me how it doesn't?


    Reading is fundamental. My comment had nothing to do with whether Gary, who actually ate there, or JonJonJon or you, who haven't eaten there, had opinions to voice about the food served at Iraqi Kabob House. I found the dismissal of Gary's report by JonJonJon out of place here. Reports on new places generally are and definitely should be welcome here.

    Frankly, even if I had seen your parking post before I posted, I would not have addressed it.

    Your second, querulous post seems completely irrelevant to me.

    Antonius
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  • Post #16 - October 18th, 2006, 9:09 pm
    Post #16 - October 18th, 2006, 9:09 pm Post #16 - October 18th, 2006, 9:09 pm
    Reading is fundamental. My comment had nothing to do with whether Gary, who actually ate there, or JonJonJon or you, who haven't eaten there, had opinions to voice about the food served at Iraqi Kabob House. I found the dismissal of Gary's report by JonJonJon out of place here. Reports on new places generally are and definitely should be welcome here.

    Frankly, even if I had seen your parking post before I posted, I would not have addressed it.

    Your second, querulous post seems completely irrelevant to me.

    Antonius


    Uh, what?

    All I am saying, as well as the poster before me, is that the food looks unattractive - to us. Can we not do that - even for a new restaurant? C'mon , that is silly!

    Tell me how it looks attractive, to you - I'm not being condescending but keeping the topic on track which I don't think you are.[
  • Post #17 - October 18th, 2006, 9:15 pm
    Post #17 - October 18th, 2006, 9:15 pm Post #17 - October 18th, 2006, 9:15 pm
    I found the dismissal of Gary's report by JonJonJon out of place here. Reports on new places generally are and definitely should be welcome here.


    Why do you feel he is dismissing the report or not condoning new reports? He said that? Where?

    As you said 'Reading is fundamental". He said the food looks "unremarkable". Ok "Utterly unremarkable"

    Oh my God! And he is right - tell us, please, how it doesn't look like that - because I think it looks exactly that!!! Utterly unremarkable. Is this saying he hates new places? Hates Iraqi food? To you, for whatever reason, it seems to.

    All due respect, you are putting words in his mouth - read: you are saying he said things he didn't say.

    Not to be rude, but if you going to carry on about it - pay attention.
  • Post #18 - October 18th, 2006, 9:23 pm
    Post #18 - October 18th, 2006, 9:23 pm Post #18 - October 18th, 2006, 9:23 pm
    To be fair, maybe I should add this disclaimer (and I am being sincere):

    I think the food looks poor, to me. But it just opened and we should give it a chance - maybe it will get better.

    And don't feel bad about parking in front - there is plenty of space! :D
  • Post #19 - October 18th, 2006, 9:52 pm
    Post #19 - October 18th, 2006, 9:52 pm Post #19 - October 18th, 2006, 9:52 pm
    I took the "Why bother?" to mean why bother going here when you could go to one of 3 LTH Great Neighborhood Restaurants just down the street, not why bother posting.

    If you're just going out and looking for a great middle Eastern meal, I certainly wouldn't recommend Iraqi Kabab House, at least not based solely on G Wiv's pictures and meal description. A lot of people (the vast majority, I would guess) use the site this way...to find a great meal.

    There are many others, however, who are driven to seek out these restaurants, to try new spots as they open, often multiple times, looking for strengths and acknowledging weaknesses. Part of what makes a board like this strong, I think, is a bias towards assuming a place like this does have strengths, that a new neighborhood middle Eastern restaurant, in an impressive and oft-discussed strip mall, in perhaps the strongest enclave of middle Eastern spots in the city might, in fact, have something worthwhile to offer, even if at first it disappoints. That quest isn't for everyone, and that's okay, but that's why you bother going.

    I will say, even that rather pedestrian looking plate makes me miss my old neighborhood and, dammit, I'd sure like to get up there and try the split-pea soup
  • Post #20 - October 19th, 2006, 8:41 am
    Post #20 - October 19th, 2006, 8:41 am Post #20 - October 19th, 2006, 8:41 am
    Crikey. To start a near argument over an offhand comment!

    Aaron Deacon wrote:I took the "Why bother?" to mean why bother going here when you could go to one of 3 LTH Great Neighborhood Restaurants just down the street, not why bother posting.


    Aaron hit the nail straight on the head here. If I'm looking for middle-eastern food, I'll head to Semiramis or Salaam, both of which are 2 blocks away from Iraqi Kebab House, until this new place distinguishes itself as a place with something that stands out. And certainly, an Iraqi restaraunt could be a welcome addition to an arab-food environment that seems to be dominated by Lebanese and Palestinian cuisine. Iraqi food, as I understand it, has its own regional specialties which could provide a nice mix to the scene.

    However, Gary's meal didn't look like it had any of those regional dishes. It just looked like a generic "middle eastern" place.

    Somebody goes back and finds that they've got the most amazing Kefta on Kedzie? Hurrah! Which is why, as an adventurer, it may be worth checking the place out again, as Antonious pointed out.

    And to clarify my "Taken Advantage of" statement - I love the varities of smushed chickpeas as much as the next guy. Falafel is one of my favorite foods! And those plates are great, as Antonious mentioned, as a starter, or for someone who's eating vegetarian. That's all good. My "taken advantage of" statement was indicating more that it's advertised as an entree platter. When I'm eating out, especially at an ethnic place, I like to feel like I'm getting an authentically-presented experience. I know from travelling that a meal of hummus and baba ganoush isn't exactly an "authentic" meal in the middle-east. Sure, it's good, but I wouldn't consider it a dinner platter. Not to say I wouldn't order it, but it's more of a semantics disagreement.

    Sorry for causing such a hubbub here for a two-sentence post!

    Remember, it's just food! eat up!
  • Post #21 - October 19th, 2006, 9:38 am
    Post #21 - October 19th, 2006, 9:38 am Post #21 - October 19th, 2006, 9:38 am
    jonjonjon wrote: Iraqi food, as I understand it, has its own regional specialties which could provide a nice mix to the scene.
    Iraq does have its own distinct versions of "standard" middle-eastern dishes, along with some very good regional specialties. For instance, the Kibbeh "Mosul" is flat like a pancake with a layer of ground meat between two layers of wheat. It is usually boiled instead of fried (although it comes both ways). To me, it tastes like a White Castle burger (in a good way). The Iraqi Borek is more like an eggroll, with a crunchy fried skin filled with potatoes, cheese or meat. The Hummus is often served topped with Shwarima (gus), which is nice because it keeps the meat moist and makes the Hummus less boring. Iraqis also make Lahim Beajin, which is a pita topped with a spicy mixture of ground lamb, onions and tomatoes (called Lamejun in Armenian). Iraqi Kefta Kabobs are usually made with both marinated lamb and beef, and are very good. They tend to be much denser than your usual Kefta.

    Among Iraqi specialties is Ground Lentil Soup which is delicious (I think that is what Gary had, not split-pea). One thing that distinguishes Iraqi food is the frequent use of tomatoes in sauces and stews. They make a tomato and bean stew, which is served as a side with almost every meal. Another bean dish is Ful Medames, which dates back to ancient Egypt. It is Fava beans with a garlic and olive oil dressing. Again, the Iraqi version usually contains tomatoes. Two regional dishes I really enjoy are Tashreeb and Quuzi. Tashreeb is lamb shank stewed in a peppery and sour tomato broth which is poured over bread. Quuzi is braised lamb shank served over rice and topped with a spicy tomato sauce.

    Anyhow, Iraqi food is indeed different than your usual "Middle-Eastern" fare. I for one, like it better. If I am in the neighborhood, I will definitely give this place a shot.
  • Post #22 - October 19th, 2006, 10:30 am
    Post #22 - October 19th, 2006, 10:30 am Post #22 - October 19th, 2006, 10:30 am
    jonjonjon wrote:However, Gary's meal didn't look like it had any of those regional dishes. It just looked like a generic "middle eastern" place.


    But, Gary's meal and post didn't indicate that they didn't have any specific regional dishes. It just talked about his veggie plate and soup.

    I wonder if this thread would have gone differently if the first response would have been the following:

    Gary,

    A new Iraqi restaurant in this neighborhood is pretty exciting. Can you tell us if you noticed any items on the menu that may be of specific Iraqi regional origin?

    Best,
    Michael
  • Post #23 - October 19th, 2006, 10:59 am
    Post #23 - October 19th, 2006, 10:59 am Post #23 - October 19th, 2006, 10:59 am
    I like the irony of someone being so moved by what they consider "utterly unremarkable" to go on record in such a provocative way. Here's to sound and fury.

    I'd only add that there is a lot of precedent here that warrants giving serious weight to Gary's thoughts on any number of cuisines. Maybe the food pictured tasted better than it looked, maybe not. The more relevant issue is what this particular author thought about the place. If jonjonjon tries it, I am happy to give due consideration to his or her thoughts on the food.
  • Post #24 - October 19th, 2006, 11:18 am
    Post #24 - October 19th, 2006, 11:18 am Post #24 - October 19th, 2006, 11:18 am
    Keeping things food focused, I've been meaning to point out that...

    While the restaurant sez Iraq, there is a good chance that the cuisine in general is Assyrian. That is, there is a signficant Assyrian population in Chicago and there are other Assyrian restaurants in that area AND the Assyrians come from Iraq, especially Northern Iraq.

    Now, that said, I am not sure how many specific culinary differences there are between Assyrian food and Iraqi food.

    My recollections of Assyrian food, from a couple of visits to places in that area, are of a few dishes. First, there is gus, their version of shwwarma. Second, there are often main course soup/stews with chunks of lamb and beans or okra. Bread, like Mexican bollio's, are served with meals. I have pasted my old Little Shedak's post below. Gary's post on Shedak's can be found here

    RST in one of his first obsessions did a lot of posts on Chowhound on Iraqi/Assyrian food.

    VI long ago wrote:Little Shedrak's (plus Al Khaymeih again, now green plums)
    But for the lack of Dalmatian wine and seven colors of mole, I can imagine no place more truly RSTish than Little Shedrak's. It is not on Lawrence, but two store fronts off Lawrence, on Sawyer. You walk in past of a crowd of men with nary a plate of food in front of them. The expected al Jerza blares. Little Shedrak's is also a card room. One table played mah jong (surprisingly?). Another played backgammon. Later several tables played some type of bridge/hearts type of trump game. Someone suggested we move toward the empty tables in the back. We sat down on a table with green baize, but our host soon removed the card surface. She left the little side table where players would keep their cigarettes, perhaps a sandwich or a glass of tea. It was perfect place for my cell phone and Ms. VI's water bottle.

    About a year ago, the elusive one was on an Iraqi/Assyrian kick, regaling us with tales of stuffed heads and other treats. Zim finally prodded the name of one of his places out of him, George's Kebab, but soon the movement readjusted. New cuisine's, new streets, cemitas and such. When I mentioned Little Shedrak's a few days ago, RST piped in that he had mentioned that place a long time ago. As we all know, chowhound is not exactly search friendly. I tried the control f browser page search and a chowhound search engine search, but found no reference. Finally, I did things the really hard way, I waded through a bunch of posts. I did find mention of Little Shedrak, but it provided no information, nor did RST reveal which of the various Assyrian places he thought the best.

    To digress (let's all digress freely in our reports, no?), it is amazing how many Assyrian places exist in the approximate intersection of Lawrence and Kedzie. Besides George's and Little Shedrak's, there is King Kebab and one or two more, all serving their superior version of shwarma called gus and various long cooked soup/stews. I'm just not a completist, however, who has the ability to categorize all of the places. For now, I'll report on Little Shedrak's.

    The menu includes sandwiches, every day plates and daily specials. What is available, however, does not necessarily correspond to what the menu says. Ask. We had three chowhounditas with us and they negotiated furiously over what they should eat--spoiled by no potato chop--ending up with two chicken kebab sandwiches and one gus sandwich. The Condiment Queen and I split the farrouch (baby chicken) and white beans with meat.

    No offense to the Assyrian's, but you will notice that a lot of the card players carry a bit of a pouch. It will make sense when you see how much food consists of a meal at Little Shedrak's. The sandwiches are the Assyrian bread, very similar to Mexican torta bread (bolillo), the bread split to form a pocket, like a New England hot dog bun. Huge amounts of the ordered meat get stuffed on top of a simple salad. A bottle of English "HP" sauce was brought for the sandwiches. A filling meal, but nothing like the entrees.

    For a few dollars more, you get a huge range of food. Each plate came with two of the squishy rolls. You get a huge plate of very good rice, very pilafed if you know what I mean, not low cal rice. The chicken came with a big bowl of soup/stew made from long simmered wide green beans and possessing a few big chunks of spine meat that would have made this a meal pretty much in itself. The white beans had similar chunks of meat and looked similar with its red broth, but actually tasted different. Also, a big plate of pickles and onions dusted with sumac and not very spicy hot peppers. The flavors were all deep and satisfying. The chicken nicely seasoned and charred. My only complaint, there must be some other kind of condiment no? Achar, what is it called, a hot type sauce/chutney. The final glass of tea was as usual, scalding, but nothing particularly special. Still, a wonderful amount of food for $27.

    With the pleasant weather we strolled a bit around Albany Park after dinner. Al-Khaymeih got a huge amount of press on this board last winter about its feta and its green almonds. We nosed around their last night as well. I know Joan is always trying to get me to eat there, and I will surely return. They had these most amazing looking meat pies in view in their kitchen. At their bakery counter, which is jumbled together with the actual bakery, we were offered a sample of baklava (spelled there baklava). Both Ms. VI and I felt this was the best baklava we ever had. What makes one baklava just that much better than any other one, I do not know. But I did not take home any baklava. Rather, I had my eye on these extruded pastries, very much like churros but soaked in syrup.

    Green almond season is past. Now Al Khaymeih is selling green plums. These are tiny immature plums. I was told that they are usually eaten dipped in salt. The kids loved them, who would now, and we got a big bag. Another interesting thing at Al Khaymeih, they have two big crates of bulk tea. I note this not so much for the tea, which really smelled fresh, but for the ancient looking containers which made the tea look like it came off a tramp steamer circa 1879.

    One more side note. While we still have not tried Shwarma King, the place smelled terrific. The ability to have all his doors and windows open on a warm spring night was a huge advertisement for his fare.
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  • Post #25 - October 19th, 2006, 12:03 pm
    Post #25 - October 19th, 2006, 12:03 pm Post #25 - October 19th, 2006, 12:03 pm
    JeffB wrote:I like the irony of someone being so moved by what they consider "utterly unremarkable" to go on record in such a provocative way. Here's to sound and fury.


    I read and appreciate Gary's verbose and well-thought out reviews. I trust his opinion. And the gist of the opinion I got from the review was "pleasant but not outstanding". For me to chime in agreeing that it looked like nothing too remarkable isn't provocative in the least.

    Are we trying to make this a hostile environment, where merely typing a response to a review of a place that I haven't been is worthy of an entire thread explaining what the "proper" tone of posts is?
  • Post #26 - October 19th, 2006, 12:18 pm
    Post #26 - October 19th, 2006, 12:18 pm Post #26 - October 19th, 2006, 12:18 pm
    Maybe it's just a failure of language. I can't speak for us, but I simply remarked on a point of irony that made me smile. I found it remarkable, and remarked. I'm not suggesting what your tone should be.

    To the point about provocative language, terms such as "utterly unremarkable" (and "verbose," for that matter) are to my somewhat jaded ear pejorative both within and beside the context here. Apparently, you used those terms guilelessly and without any intent to raise the stink that ensured. My bad.
  • Post #27 - October 19th, 2006, 12:21 pm
    Post #27 - October 19th, 2006, 12:21 pm Post #27 - October 19th, 2006, 12:21 pm
    JeffB wrote:... without any intent to raise the stink that ensured. My bad.
    (emphasis added).

    Jeff - Typo, Freudian slip, humor, or ... something else??? :)
    JiLS
  • Post #28 - October 19th, 2006, 12:32 pm
    Post #28 - October 19th, 2006, 12:32 pm Post #28 - October 19th, 2006, 12:32 pm
    :?:

    No, actually, my spell checker corrected me there, adding another layer of chafing irony. Now I can see how misunderstandings get perpetuated. Truce. Uncle.
  • Post #29 - October 19th, 2006, 12:54 pm
    Post #29 - October 19th, 2006, 12:54 pm Post #29 - October 19th, 2006, 12:54 pm
    jonjonjon wrote:I read and appreciate Gary's verbose and well-thought out reviews.

    Verbose...........

    Well, at least you didn't say chewy. ;)

    JeffB wrote:Maybe the food pictured tasted better than it looked, maybe not.


    Certainly pictures do not tell the whole story. Here are two examples.

    Rack of ribs from Hecky's of Chicago posted in this thread with the caption. (Warning: Image may be less delicious than it appears.)

    Image

    Fish Fragrant Eggplant aka Garlic Eggplant, from Ed's Potsticker House, which does not look all that tasty in the picture, but is absolutely delicious.

    Image

    Enjoy,
    Gary
    One minute to Wapner.
    Raymond Babbitt

    Low & Slow
  • Post #30 - October 19th, 2006, 1:13 pm
    Post #30 - October 19th, 2006, 1:13 pm Post #30 - October 19th, 2006, 1:13 pm
    G Wiv wrote:Rack of ribs from Hecky's of Chicago posted in this thread with the caption. (Warning: Image may be less delicious than it appears.)

    Image


    Wait, you warn that the image itself "may be less delicious than it appears"?

    In any case, that looks to me like a piece of subflooring with some grotty, fire-damaged carpet padding still attached.

    E.M.

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