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    Post #1 - February 13th, 2005, 4:48 pm
    Post #1 - February 13th, 2005, 4:48 pm Post #1 - February 13th, 2005, 4:48 pm
    I will spending a week in London at the end of March. I have been there once, probably 5 years ago, with my parents and sister. This time, I'm going solo and would like any helpful eating recs that anyone has.

    Cheers!
  • Post #2 - February 13th, 2005, 5:15 pm
    Post #2 - February 13th, 2005, 5:15 pm Post #2 - February 13th, 2005, 5:15 pm
    KatyK,

    One of the best traveling/food experiences I have had was in London. A scavenger hunt of sorts - it started out at Neal's Yard Dairy in Covent Garden. A legendary cheese shop that lives up to the hype. We must have spent at least an hour in this tiny store front shop tasting every kind of cheese they would offer. Finally, after much deliberation, we chose a few of our favorites, and moved on to Berry Brothers Wine Merchants. It's worth a trip to see this place even if you are not a wine drinker. The shop was built in 1731 and almost nothing has changed. But if you are inclined to buy a bottle, you can sit down with one of the experts and talk about what you are looking for. We told him what cheeses we were eating, and about how much we wanted to spend (ten pounds), and he chose something great.

    After that there is some improvising to be done. Bread, olives, fruit, chocolate, tinned and smoked fish, etc.

    And then take your picnic to one of London's many parks (I recommend the Royal Botanical Gardens (Kew). It's a 20 minute train ride from the central London, but more than worth the extra hassle. The trick of course is finding a sunny day to do it on.

    Hope you have a great trip,

    Kristina

    Neals Yard Dairy
    17 Shorts Gardens, Covent Garden,
    Tel +44 (0)20 7240 5700

    Berry Bros and Rudd
    3 St. James's Street
    Tel: +44 (0)20 7396 9600
    http://www.bbr.com/US/about/london.lml? ... KV35VF0C3Z
  • Post #3 - February 13th, 2005, 8:46 pm
    Post #3 - February 13th, 2005, 8:46 pm Post #3 - February 13th, 2005, 8:46 pm
    I do not know about other people, but at least a few times a week I scan the ever changing menu at St. Johns to see what I *would* eat that day. On a couple of other foodie sites though, there has been a few downhill alerts. It would still be my number one suggestion for London.

    http://www.stjohnrestaurant.co.uk/

    (address included in the web site)

    It's been about 20 years since I was last in London, but in my day (so to speak) there was some great ethnic dining. The Chinatown had some good options, but I especially loved the Middle-Eastern food and the Cypriot places. I cannot be specific on places, sorry.

    Do report though.

    Rob
  • Post #4 - February 14th, 2005, 1:12 am
    Post #4 - February 14th, 2005, 1:12 am Post #4 - February 14th, 2005, 1:12 am
    Scott -- DFW and his wife visited London and did a lot of research ahead of time. He did most of his research on egullet. You can see his report here which is pre-ceded by most of the research, which includes many discussions.

    I'll go ahead and repost, though, here his report since it was actually a re-posted and slightly redacted email to myself:

    1) St. John. Went here for lunch on the day we arrived. Had the marrow and parsley salad as a starter. Two slices of toast, several segments of hot roasted bones, a salad of parsley and shallots, and a small pile of gray sea salt. Okay, but nothing outstanding. The parsley flavor was so strong that it tended to overwhelm the meaty, buttery flavor of the marrow. And there really wasn't enough marrow to leave much of an impression. An interesting, quirky dish, but not something I (or K) would order again. Next was a white cabbage and cockles salad. Bland, bland, bland. Almost no flavor in any component of the dish. Totally forgettable. Next was an "Old Spot" pork pot roast with bean salad. The pork ended up being a slice that included the tenderloin, bacony cut, and then a thick layer of fat. Good pork taste, but very one-note (and definitely on the salty side). It was served in a bit of soupy stew broth that tasted the same (i.e., porky, salty). I think the pork had potential. But this was the wrong dish for it. The only interesting thing about it was the contrast in textures you got with the unusual cut. The beans, however, were excellent. They were mostly Lima, with shallots, bits of carrot, and maybe some potato. Definitely the best dish component we had there. For dessert, we got the Eccles cake with Lancashire cheese. The plate came out with a good sized slab of cheese and a puck-shaped pastry about 2" in diameter. The Eccles cake was a bready pastry with a light granulated sugar coating, filled with currants. That's it. No moisture. No sauce. No pastry cream. We both agreed that, for what the pastry chef was trying to do, he probably did a good job. But it didn't approach the American ideal for a dessert (i.e., sweet, sweet, sweet). Anyway, we were both pretty disappointed with the meal. Total tab for that ended up being almost 40 pounds (roughly $75).

    2) New Tayyeb. This was a low level Indian restaurant near Whitechapel, recommended highly on e-Gullet. The place was slammed when we got there around 9 PM. We waited nearly a half hour for a table. The menu was a challenge, since there weren't any descriptions of dishes and most of them were unfamiliar to me. We ended up ordering veggie samosas, one chicken curry, one lamb curry, and kheer for dessert. The samosas were good, but thin (flat, rather than the lofty pyramid shape I'm used to). Really good chutneys--one cucumber and yogurt, one mango, and one hottern'hell chile. Both curries were excellent--not really as soupy or gravy-like as I get around here. They didn't impress at first bite. But once you started eating them, they really grew on you. Entrees included sides of a veggie curry with squash and a red bean curry. Both were very good. Good kheer, closer to a rice pudding than what I usually get under that name. Total price for the meal ended up being about 17 pounds (about $28 US)--unfortunately one of the better values of the trip.

    3) Soho Spice. A good friend recommended this place, saying it was one of the best meals of his and his wife's life. K ordered chicken tikka masala. I ordered another lamb curry (something korma-ish). I didn't like either of them as much as what we'd had the night before, but they were still very good. K said it was the best chicken tikka masala she's ever had. We had a good gulab jamun for dessert. 30 pounds or so for the lunch.

    4) Mela. This was proposed by several people as an alternative to the high-end nouveau Indian places I had enquired about. Reminded me of an Indian Cafe Azul [an erstwhile Mexican restaurant in Portland run by a Chez Panisse alumnus]--great ingredients, good technique, but pretty traditional dishes. We weren't really hungry, so we skipped the appetizer and went straight to entrees. I ordered a duck curry and K ordered some kind of veggie ball curry. Both were incredible--two of the best Indian dishes I've ever had and definite highlights of the trip. The duck pieces were crispy, with an excellent sauce (with spiciness and almost mustardy undertones) that clung to the pieces without making them soggy. And the curry with the veggie balls was "lick the bowl" good. We had a good mango kulfi for dessert. 25 pounds or so.

    5) Street vendor near the Tate Modern Art Museum. This guy had a cart with a wok-like bowl in it. He had a sugar syrup heated in the wok and would stir these enormous peanuts in it until they were caramelized, then sell small bags of them--still hot from the wok--for one pound. Mmmm. Simple, but a great little snack. I saw a similar cart elsewhere in the city a couple days later and was tempted to buy another sack, even though I was on my way to a dinner reservation.

    6) Cafe Italia (or something like that). K was mad that we were taking so much time traveling to restaurants and spending so much (by US standards) on food. So I said, "Fine, we'll go wherever you want to go from now on." When mealtime came, she was at a loss and picked this place because it was close to where we were at the time. She had canneloni and I had spaghetti Bolognese. Both were sub-Olive Garden [i.e., a mediocre US chain] in quality. 25 pounds, without appetizer or dessert. After that, she went back to letting me pick the restaurants.

    7) Harrod's. I've never seen anything like Harrod's. The place is unbelievable--like a lovechild of Neiman Marcus and Las Vegas on steroids. It's enormous, gaudy, and cool as hell. They have "food galleries" that cover the better part of a city block on one floor. A candy, chocolates, and pastry section. A cheese and deli section. A seafood and meats section. It makes Central Market look like a low-rent 7-11. Cabrales had recommended their Oyster Bar for a lunch. So we ordered fish & chips there. K loved it, saying it was one of the best things she'd eaten on the trip. I thought the fries were really good. And the fish seemed to be done about as well as it could be, though it's just not my kind of dish. 16 pounds for one order (i.e., two fried filets and a small portion of fries). We went over to the pastry section and picked up a bread & butter pudding and a fig & brioche pudding. The former was pretty good, while the latter was just so-so.

    8) Tamarind. The only Michelin-starred Indian restaurant in England. (Zaika used to have one till the original chef left.) They started us with papadum and a trio of chutneys. The chutneys were, as K put it, "Interesting here," tapping her head, "but not here," pointing to her tongue. Sweet and sour flavors in unsual combinations. I tended to agree with her. One of them (the fruitiest of the three) was okay, but the others barely worked at all. Our appetizer was some kind of concoction of fried potato patties, chickpeas, tamarind chutney, and yogurt. Interesting, mellow, and pretty good. For entrees, she got a chicken with tomato onion curry and I opted for two veggie dishes, sag aloo (spinach and potato curry) and a black lentil curry they touted as a house specialty. Disappointment across the board. All three dishes were just okay--really no better than we can get around here. Also, it seemed like they pureed and strained the chicken curry so there would be no texture to it; that might earn them a star, but it kind of detracts from the dish. For dessert, we ordered the most unusual sounding option they had--slow-cooked carrot fudge with vanilla ice cream. Very tasty. Imagine something between a carrot cake and carrot bread, removed from the oven while it's still underbaked, then extracting the warm, slightly mushy underbaked center portion. That's kind of what it was like. Served with a decent vanilla bean ice cream with the plate garnished with a carrot juice reduction. A groovy little dessert. But it wasn't enough to redeem the uneven quality. And at around 60 pounds, it was a very poor value.

    9) Viceroy. This was an Indian place in Windsor (where we were visiting Windsor Castle) that came highly recommended in Lonely Planet. Ugh. High school cafeteria quality Indian. 20 pounds for two entrees. Total disappointment.

    10) Gordon Ramsay RHR. Our one three-star meal. While it didn't knock my socks off, it was a very good meal and a reasonable value at the price point (80 pounds per person for the tasting menu). I'd say it fell short of Trotter's or French Laundry. But, overall, it's in the ballpark (i.e., 5 Mobil stars in the US). Quick sketch of courses (followed by a 1 to 10 ranking of the course, comparing it with the best of the best in the US):

    a -- Kelleresque cones filled half with an avocado mousse, half with a masala mousse. 9.

    b -- Two paper-thin slices of some kind of spicy meat dehydrated to complete crispiness with a layer of seasoned creme fraiche and cheese between them. 10. One of the best amuses I've ever had.

    c -- Trio of salads, each served in a spoon. One was a nicoise, one was a tomato and basil gelee, one was rare beef with capers, shallots, and something else. 9.

    d -- Foie gras terrine with layers of smoked goose, served with bite-sized salads of mushrooms and green beans, with concentric rings of olive oil and a red wine reduction. A superb foie gras presentation. 10.

    e -- Scottish lobster and langoustine ravioli with tomato compote and other things I can't remember. A lobster lover would probably really dig this. And even though I'm not a lobster lover, I thought it was pretty darned good. 7.

    f -- Skin-on seabass with veloute. I'm sure there was some kind of excellent side component to this course, but I can't remember what it was. All I remember is the seabass and sauce. Man, what a fish. Right up there with the best I've ever had. 10.

    g -- Lamb three ways. Thin rare slices, layered with well seasoned potato slices. A shaped pile of shredded meat, like confit in richness. One other way, combined with spinach. All very tasty and competent, but not interesting at all. 8.

    h -- Beef medallion with sauteed sweetbreads, mushrooms, and a way too dark, rich, intense sauce. By far the weakest dish of the night. K liked it more than I did, but she agreed it was the weakest of the bunch. The meat wasn't very tender and the flavors were just too clumsy. 6.

    i -- Lavender infused creme brulee. Lighter than most creme brulees I've had--almost fluffy in texture. Very tasty, but not original in any way. 7.

    j -- Trifle of warm apple compote, a cool spiced tapioca, and an intense granita. One of those dishes that emphasizes contrasts in temperature and texture. Very tasty, too. 8.

    k -- Strawberry and rhubarb tartlet. Hard to describe (almost no pastry component) but excellent. 9.

    l -- Mignardises: (i) Dark liquid caramel filled truffles. Very intense caramel flavor--like cajeta quemada. 9. (ii) Strawberry ice cream truffles. Truffle sized balls of an excellent strawberry ice cream enrobed in white chocolate. They were served just as the ice cream inside was starting to go melty. Simple, but perfect. 10. (iii) Some good but forgettable mini-muffins. 6.

    (11) Goddard's Pie Shop (in Greenwich). K had a minced beef pie with mashed potatoes, half with gravy, half with parsley sauce. I had a Cornish pastie--a croissant-looking pastry filled with lamb, potatoes, carrots, etc. The pastry components to both items were very well done--light, flaky, not soggy. But the fillings were bland as can be--a blandness that salt alone could not rectify. The mashed potatoes tasted like they were made with water rather than milk, cream, or butter--totally flat tasting. A great idea, but really blah in the execution.

    (12) Mela, again. We had to grab a quick dinner before a play started ("Measure for Measure" at Shakespeare's Globe Theater), and this was close by. We started with an appetizer sampler that included potato and chickpea balls with a spicy tamarind chutney, crispy tandoori chicken bits with a mango chutney, and a lamb kebab with a very spicy pickled meat and veggie chutney. (A lot of the menus had pickled meat items.) All were good, but the veggie balls were the best. We shared a mild chicken curry, a potato/spinach curry, and lentils. For dessert, I got gulab jamun with ice cream and she got some kind of bready pastry in a cardomom/milk-based sauce. Another good meal, though nothing was as good as the entrees in our prior meal there. That may be because we did the "pre-theater" fixed price meal, where they guarantee to get you out in time for your show. We probably should have ordered ala carte. They had a rabbit curry I really wanted to try.

    12) St. John Bread & Wine. We came here for breakfast before heading to the airport. We had hoped they'd have some pastries, but they said they wouldn't really start on pastries till closer to lunch time. I had toast and honey (two slices for two and a half pounds). They know how to do toast there. But it's still just toast and honey. (Nothing remarkable about the honey.) K got pikelets and apricot jam. We didn't really know what that would involve. It ended up being two round patties--sort of a cross between a pancake and an English muffin--served with butter and an apricot jam. K thought they were pretty good, but I thought they were excellent. Maybe it's just because I'd never had anything quite like it before. Very interesting texture. We picked up a brownie to go. Good brownie with whole hazelnuts in it. The hazelnuts weren't toasted, though, so they ended up with that slightly chewy resistence, rather than the brittle crunch (and nuttier flavor) they get from toasting. A good brownie, but no better than one can make at home.

    13) Generic Airport Cafe. We picked up a chicken tikka sandwich--white bread with spiced chicken and slices of cucumber. Yuck. Edible, but just barely. But what can you expect with airport food? Also, Lay's operates in England under the name Walker's. They have a line of gourmet potato chips in all kinds of offbeat flavors. I picked up a bag of "Roasted Lamb and Mint" potato chips to go along with the sandwich. Not bad, though there wasn't any noticeable lamb taste to the chips. I'd be interested in trying some of their other flavors. [BTW, Chips = Crisps.]
  • Post #5 - January 24th, 2009, 6:25 pm
    Post #5 - January 24th, 2009, 6:25 pm Post #5 - January 24th, 2009, 6:25 pm
    I'll be in London Feb 1 through Feb 6. Where should I dine?
    "Living well is the best revenge"
  • Post #6 - January 26th, 2009, 7:11 pm
    Post #6 - January 26th, 2009, 7:11 pm Post #6 - January 26th, 2009, 7:11 pm
    If you can get to the Borough Market in Southwark, it's worth a visit. The meal would be sort of a 'foraging" outing, as it's a glorious farmers market (splendid in its pristine offerings, but also massively historic -- it was already in operation when the Romans invaded in 49 AD), but many of the farmers sell snacks or lunches (including venison, wild boar, and other delicacies). There's also a Neal's Yard cheese shop nearby.

    My single favorite place to dine is Rules, the oldest restaurant in London. They specialize in game. My favorite meal is their velvety Stilton soup followed by whatever preparation of wild Highland red deer is currently on the menu.

    The Olde Cheshire Cheese is great fun if you care to dine historically. This has been the favorite spot of literary giants throughout the centuries, and is even described in Dickens's A Tale of Two Cities. As it is a pub, it is older than even the oldest restaurants in London. You can dine on classic fare, such a roast beef with bubble and squeak, with spotted dick for dessert.

    Most pubs will have good food, and it's such a classic part of British culture, that you ought to take at least a couple of meals at pubs. One of the things I look forward to is the classic Plowman's lunch -- a big hunk of the local cheese, fresh bread, Branston pickle (like large chutney -- great with the cheese), a bit of salad, and a pickled onion. Perfect with a pint of cider.

    Foodie sites that are not restaurants include Fortnum and Mason's (glorious, historic purveyor of comestibles -- wonderfully elegant -- wander amid the amazing displays of elegant imports and local specialties, nice place for afternoon tea, as well); Paxton and Whitfield (splendid, historic cheese shop in Jermyn Street, one of the oldest streets in London -- not far from Fortnum and Mason's); and, of course, the food floor at Harrod's (insanely expensive, but a must see).

    Southall is great fun. It's the section of town where all the new arrivals from the subcontinent live. It's bigger and more crowded than Devon, and while there is Indian food almost everywhere in England, this is where you're most likely to find Indian food that has some heat.

    I see that extramsg mentions Goddard's in Greenwich in the post above. Aside from the classic pies, it's one of the few places in town that I've found that one-time staple of London working lunches -- eel. You can get stewed eel or the even more classic jellied eel. It's like eating history. (And Greenwich is worth a visit because of the Maritime Museum, the Cutty Sark, and the Royal Observatory, a historic edifice and museum of astronomy, and the place where the zero meridian was set (and where you can get your photo taken standing on the line).
    "All great change in America begins at the dinner table." Ronald Reagan

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  • Post #7 - January 27th, 2009, 10:47 pm
    Post #7 - January 27th, 2009, 10:47 pm Post #7 - January 27th, 2009, 10:47 pm
    I had an excellent dinner at Lemonia in Primrose Hill a few years back. When I can get back to London, I will be eating there again.

    Neighbourhood: Primrose Hill
    89 Regents Park Road
    London NW1 8UY
    020 7586 7454
  • Post #8 - January 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
    Post #8 - January 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm Post #8 - January 28th, 2009, 5:35 pm
    I like Locanda Locatelli for fine Italian food near Marble Arch. If you find yourself in West London, Enoteca Turi or River Café, both near the Hammersmith tube, are very good.
  • Post #9 - January 29th, 2009, 9:58 pm
    Post #9 - January 29th, 2009, 9:58 pm Post #9 - January 29th, 2009, 9:58 pm
    Cynthia wrote:If you can get to the Borough Market in Southwark, it's worth a visit.


    +1 for Borough Market. There's a Neal's Yard cheese shop just off the Market (across the street from the Market Porter pub).

    Cynthia wrote:(And Greenwich is worth a visit because of the Maritime Museum, the Cutty Sark, and the Royal Observatory, a historic edifice and museum of astronomy, and the place where the zero meridian was set (and where you can get your photo taken standing on the line).


    Don't forget Queen's House for those interested in paintings.

    The Cutty Sark ship is undergoing repairs and is not currently open to the public. It was being renovated and scheduled to reopen in 2009 but a fire in 2007 caused a 14-month delay. It is scheduled to reopen in the Spring of 2010.

    If you have a GPS, take it to the Royal Observatory and check the coordinates while standing on the Prime Meridian. Then do some research to see why things aren't quite what one would expect.
  • Post #10 - January 30th, 2009, 3:19 pm
    Post #10 - January 30th, 2009, 3:19 pm Post #10 - January 30th, 2009, 3:19 pm
    I have never had the pleasure of visiting London but I frequently read an awesome food blog called London Eater that reviews all sorts of restaurants over there.

    Hope it helps you!

    http://www.londoneater.com
    Hillary
    http://chewonthatblog.com <--A Chicago Food Blog!
  • Post #11 - February 3rd, 2009, 8:52 am
    Post #11 - February 3rd, 2009, 8:52 am Post #11 - February 3rd, 2009, 8:52 am
    Quick update from London. Despite the "historic" snowfall (6 inches; the Brits are wussies!) I did manage to get out and around the crippled city. After a morning and early afternoon of meetings I hopped in a cab and gave told the driver to head to 19 Theobald's street. As we approached our destination the driver began looking for the number at which point I told him, "I'm going to The Fryers Delight, for a little lunch". "Ah, the Fryer's Delight! Why didn't you say so that's where all the cabbies go" was his response.

    At this very moment, I knew I had made an excellent choice.

    I paid the driver and headed in to clean, but decidedly spartan place. The waitress was quick, and I ordered a plate of cod and chips. A little heat would have been nice, but I suppose London isn't prepared for the type of weather that us Chicagoans take for granted.

    My food arrived unbelievably fast, and it was excellent. The Cod, a big ole piece of fish was darn near cooked perfect and certainly the best fried fish I've had. The batter was nicely flavored, and provided the cod with a crispy, flavorful coating that was not the slightest bit greasy. Good temperature discipline on the fry vat was clearly a core competency! The best thing about the place is that they fry in, as they refer to it, "beef drippings" which as I understand it is the traditional Engtlish way. Even more impressive when one considers that the joint's proprietors are a couple of Italian brothers.

    Bottom line: Highly recommended.

    For Dinner I popped over to Zafferano, a Michelin two star that happens to be next door to my hotel. I didn't have reservations, but I was counting on the "historic snow" to keep business down a bit, and my strategy paid off with a table in the bar. I momentarily wondered what happened to the traditional British stiff upper lip, but then figured I shouldn't question my good fortune and took my seat.

    The amuse bouche was a traditional onion tart. Very well done, nice pastry.

    I then started my first course with a warm roasted artichoke salad with veal shins. Delightful! Although, to be honest, it would have been just as good without the artichokes as they really had very little flavor.

    Course number two was papardelle in a saffron scented sauce with pig cheeks. This dish was profound. The hint of saffron was perfect and the bits of onion among the shredded meat really made this an outstanding course.

    Course three was veal kidney with warm lentils. When the dish arrived at my table, I must say I immediately became concerned; the scent of sage was quite strong and I was afraid the chef might have had a bit of a heavy hand. This only turned out to be partially true and the lentils, kidney and sage mostly worked together in the dish.

    Wine was by the glass, as I didn't want to order a full bottle, and wasn't terribly enamored with the half bottle selections. I enjoyed a Sangiovese with the first two courses and had a very good Montepulciano with the Kidney.

    Desert was a chocolate fondant, better known to us as a molten chocolate cake with a scoop of espresso flavored ice milk.

    Zafferano was good and at 80 pounds for the above, a good deal considering the two stars
    "Living well is the best revenge"
  • Post #12 - February 6th, 2009, 4:00 pm
    Post #12 - February 6th, 2009, 4:00 pm Post #12 - February 6th, 2009, 4:00 pm
    Enoteca Turi

    I awoke Thursday morning to another day of snow and work ahead of me. I turned on the TV and waited for a knock on the door announcing the arrival of my morning coffee. As the BBC flashed on, I found myself face to face with the grim visage of Gordon Brown, who for some reason decided to announce that we are on the precipice of a global depression. This, after announcing late last year the it was He who saved the global economy with his plan to recapitalize banks.

    So what's up with that Gordy?

    I must confess that I find these feckless pronouncements from our leaders to be most distressing. What happened to the stiff British upper lip, or the American can do spirit? Why, with an admittedly severe global downturn, have our leaders taken up the cause of cheerleading the economy into oblivion?

    And most importantly, what is this loathsome display going to do to our dining establishments?

    Well, I may not be able to save the economy, and I certainly can't give everyone a job, but as I sat there watching the vile Head of England pronounce the end of civilization as we know it I vowed that I would do my small part to put the economy on more sound footing. I would dine at Enoteca Turi that very night!

    So after a day in the office, I ventured back to my hotel, dropped my bag and instructed the taxi driver to take me to 28 High Putney Street on the double. I arrived at the restaurant at 730pm on the dot and requested a table for one. Disturbingly, I noted that only three other tables were occupied, and I silently cursed PM Brown's name. Already the knuckle dragging mouth breather was having an impact!

    Enoteca advertises itself as a family run restaurant and this certainly seemed to be the case. I was escorted to my table by a matronly sort, and on my way I noted that there were only 4 other wait staff in a place with approximately 30 tables. The menu was limited, but sufficiently varied and I placed my order; Artichoke Cardoons, Spinach and Rosemary Risotto with Chicken Livers, and Milk roasted Pork Shoulder. I also requested a bottle of sparkling water and a bottle of the house primitivo to wash everything down.

    The cardoons arrived promptly and looked delicious. I will say that the artichokes themselves, as they had been at Zaferrano earlier in the week, were a bit light on flavor. Perhaps it was the season. Having said that, the dish was quite lovely. The cardoons were stuffed with a light goat cheese and fried perfectly. They were presented in a sort of potato puree with dabs of olive oil and a small mound of crispy leaks was nestled in the center of the plate. As with all of the food here, this dish was not terribly sophisticated, but none-the-less, expertly prepared and quite good.

    Next up, the risotto came to my table on a subtle waft of rosemary. This dish is built around the time honored concept of strong herbs and organ meat, as had been my sage and beef kidney at Zafferano. If I were to quibble I would say I enjoy my risotto a tad more toothsome, but otherwise the spinach, rosemary and kidneys were quite lovely.

    The final dish, milk roasted pork shoulder was the one I was really anticipating. Milk roasted? Certainly a new concept to me! The shoulder was presented with cabbage and a puree of celeriac and apple with a paper thin slice of dried apple in each mound of puree. Completely delicious! Most interestingly, from the first bite this dish reminded me of thanksgiving, only with a nice hunk of pork instead of turkey. I definitely will try to replicate this at home!

    To round out the meal I settled on a polenta cake with blood oranges and mascarpone cream. The perfect finish to a delightful meal.

    And so my little contribution to the British dining scene ended with me as a satisfied customer, and Enoteca Turi on the "Must Get Back There" list. Oh, and the sparsely populated tables at the start of dinner that I wrote off to old Gordon's foul influence? Almost completely full by 830pm.

    Harry Truman, a leader who knew a thing or two about leading a country through challenges once said that its a recession when your neighbor loses his job, but a depression when you lose your job. Perhaps I read old Gordy wrong. Is there a vote coming up soon by any chance?!
    "Living well is the best revenge"
  • Post #13 - February 9th, 2009, 11:22 am
    Post #13 - February 9th, 2009, 11:22 am Post #13 - February 9th, 2009, 11:22 am
    I'm not impressed by london indian, but I love london chinese - it is a very specific mutation of hong kong cantonese. I always hit china town - poon and co is good, as in "canton" resteraunt. a few london specific dishes - crispy beef (spicy in a bright orange sauce), crispy duck, noodles with roast pork (just slightly differnt from what you'd get in HK).

    another thing I like is welsh pasties, that you can usually get in the train stations.

    pub food - meat pies, gamon (ham) and chips, and the various "school boy puddings" - old fashioned english desserts like treacle on sponge cake and various boiled things with suet and dried fruit.
  • Post #14 - February 11th, 2009, 9:15 pm
    Post #14 - February 11th, 2009, 9:15 pm Post #14 - February 11th, 2009, 9:15 pm
    globetrotter wrote:I'm not impressed by london indian.


    Next time you're in London, check out Southall. It's not the food for the British, or even the British Indians. It's food for recently arrived Indians. Last trip, a friend and I, both Chicagoans, went with two London friends to Southall, and while my friend and I were loving everything, my London friends were almost in tears. I'd call it medium heat by Devon Ave. standards, but for my London friends, it was the hottest thing they'd ever eaten, and they actually had to order an additional dish, in order to have something to eat. Which, of course, is no guarantee you'll like it, but it's certainly different from the general run of London Indian food.
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  • Post #15 - February 12th, 2009, 6:40 am
    Post #15 - February 12th, 2009, 6:40 am Post #15 - February 12th, 2009, 6:40 am
    Cynthia wrote:
    globetrotter wrote:I'm not impressed by london indian.


    Next time you're in London, check out Southall. It's not the food for the British, or even the British Indians. It's food for recently arrived Indians. Last trip, a friend and I, both Chicagoans, went with two London friends to Southall, and while my friend and I were loving everything, my London friends were almost in tears. I'd call it medium heat by Devon Ave. standards, but for my London friends, it was the hottest thing they'd ever eaten, and they actually had to order an additional dish, in order to have something to eat. Which, of course, is no guarantee you'll like it, but it's certainly different from the general run of London Indian food.


    thanks - I lived in india for a few years, and get there 2-3 times a year, so I am very demanding about indian. a few years ago I took my wife to london and we tried several indian places, including going to the far east side to some cabbie places. part of it is that a lot of the food in london is more pakistani and bangladeshi influnced, part of it is that is has been adjusted for british tastes. but, like I said, I find the chinese in london to be great, and I like british food, so there is enough to eat for a week.
  • Post #16 - February 15th, 2009, 9:03 pm
    Post #16 - February 15th, 2009, 9:03 pm Post #16 - February 15th, 2009, 9:03 pm
    Another enthusiastic recommendation for Borough Market here as well. When at Borough Market, please try Wright Brother Oysters

    http://www.wrightbros.eu.com/

    Excellent seafood also at Bentley's near Picadilly Square.

    http://www.bentleys.org/
  • Post #17 - March 21st, 2009, 5:55 am
    Post #17 - March 21st, 2009, 5:55 am Post #17 - March 21st, 2009, 5:55 am
    It's the end of March so you must be just about to depart! Here are my tips for you (from a Chicagoan for 8 years and a Londoner for the past five). I've included the nearest tube station as well.

    Borough Market, London Bridge. Has been mentioned a number of times before. Best early on Saturday mornings. Beat the crowds!

    New Tayyabs, Whitechapel. Excellent and CHEAP Pakistani food. A bit out of the way. Best wrapped up with a visit to Tower Bridge.

    The next few tips are good solo dining suggestions...
    Fernandez & Wells, Tottenham Court. Small little sandwich shop and wine bar. Excellent chorizo and manchego sandwiches. Compact and nicely thought out wine list. Only has about eight stools. One of my favorite places in London.

    Terroirs, Charring Cross. New French wine bar and cafe. They have bar seating. I had an awesome polenta dish there the other weekend.

    The Providores, Bond Street or Baker Street. New Zealand wine bar, cafe. (Restaurant upstairs.) Really inventive food. Not cheap. But Marylebone is a lovely area to wander around so it makes for a nice afternoon.

    Ottolenghi, Angel. (I think there's one in Notting Hill as well.) Communal seating. At night, they add some bar seating. Lunch is cheaper though. Excellent meditteranean food.

    Abeno Too, Leicster Square. Specializes in okonomiyaki, which are Japanese "pancakes" made with cabbage and all sorts of good stuff. Fun just to watch them make them! Get one with panko flakes so you can watch the panko dance while it's cooking.

    The London Review Cakeshop, Holborn. Connected to the London Review of Books. Great place for a coffee but particularly for their CAKE. Their cheesecake is really some of the best cheesecake I've ever tasted. Yes, I am a connoisseur of cheesecakes.

    Flat White, Tottenham Court. Awesome little Kiwi coffee shop. Close to Fernandez & Wells so you can kill two birds with one stone.

    OK, I'll stop there, but PM me if you need more help! Or check out my blog http://www.londonelicious.com.

    Have a great trip!

    Krista
    http://www.passportdelicious.com
    recently repatriated anglophile. #jetslag
  • Post #18 - April 2nd, 2009, 5:14 pm
    Post #18 - April 2nd, 2009, 5:14 pm Post #18 - April 2nd, 2009, 5:14 pm
    I was in London last week and one of the best meal I had and greatest value was the Launceston Place for lunch. They have a 3 course lunch for only £18.00. They also have a 3 course dinner for only £42.00.

    http://www.danddlondon.com/restaurants/ ... place/home
  • Post #19 - April 22nd, 2010, 7:59 pm
    Post #19 - April 22nd, 2010, 7:59 pm Post #19 - April 22nd, 2010, 7:59 pm
    Read through the thread... another solo diner question for London. One day, lunch and a dinner. Staying in Soho (hazlitt's).

    Thinking Fernandez & Wells for lunch. Any thoughts on a nice dinner (preferably gastropub-ish) in the area? Already checked St. Johns - booked up.

    long shot, but going to be in Corby, Northamptonshire the following week on business, anything up there?
  • Post #20 - January 6th, 2011, 10:20 am
    Post #20 - January 6th, 2011, 10:20 am Post #20 - January 6th, 2011, 10:20 am
    Heading back to the jolly ole next week for the first time since my student days. Back then I could get excited about just about any curry or dodgey late night doner kabob, so the older sophisticate- me has some legwork to figure out.
    There is one prophetic memory that I must fulfill- my budding- gourmand- self was fixated upon a review of a new restaurant in the Guardian that was serving unthinkable-at-the-time guts in their cuisine, which as enthralling as it sounded, I just could not afford in my early 20's. So, first order of business will be St. John.
    I will have very good tour guides that will know the best tea service, Sunday lunch, fry ups, and all the other requisite English experiences.
    We will probably do one other fine(r) dining dinner and I could use a recommendation for that perhaps.
    I also am mostly looking for down home GNRish type spots. From the searches so far, Baozi Inn appeals.
    Any advice is gratefully appreciated!
  • Post #21 - January 6th, 2011, 2:53 pm
    Post #21 - January 6th, 2011, 2:53 pm Post #21 - January 6th, 2011, 2:53 pm
    I'll be there in a couple weeks, as well,
    so I'll be interested in this info, and any
    in situ reports from Jefe next week!
  • Post #22 - January 9th, 2011, 12:24 pm
    Post #22 - January 9th, 2011, 12:24 pm Post #22 - January 9th, 2011, 12:24 pm
    One on my to-do list is L'Autre Restaurant(5b Shepherd Street - Mayfair).
    It's billed as a "Polish-Mexican Bistro":
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  • Post #23 - January 21st, 2011, 5:54 pm
    Post #23 - January 21st, 2011, 5:54 pm Post #23 - January 21st, 2011, 5:54 pm
    London truly is one of the greatest food towns. I'm pretty sure we've moved well beyond the stereotypes and there's plenty of evidence here in Chicago of an actual embrace of English food. We had a terrific range of stuff in our five day trip from fine dining to kebab shops. In this post I will highlight a few of the more modest, off the map joints we tried. The only omissions are the pragmatic, on-the-go bites, a nowhere-else-to-turn comically bad Indian joint, maybe at least one drunken doner kabob, and a misfired choice by one of our gracious hosts.

    Otherwise, missing in this post are three more elaborate experiences detailed in the following posts:

    Our highly anticipated, eye opening, and uncompromising meal at St. John.

    The dizzying epicenter of English pastoral bounty at Borough Market.

    Mighty fine tapas at Barrafina.

    Night one I was (fortunately) toured around by our hosts. I was pretty delirious from jetlag and going with the flow. We landed at a hip "gastropub" called The Anchor & Hope. Apparently the cooks here have distinctive pedigrees, having worked at the likes of St. John and the OG gastropub, The Eagle. Not a bad place to score my first proper meal of the trip. The space was a low key pub atmosphere that gradually filled up during our two hour meal. We sat next to the open kitchen and it was fun to keep an eye on the action. The menu was fairly old school, not of the fish and chips and pies ilk, but of perhaps a more home style approach with several family style options of shared roasts and casseroles. Ingredients leaned toward seasonal- winter veggies, lots of meat, and local- lamb, game bird, and English cheeses. Half of our table ordered a roast leg of lamb which arrived ceremoniously in its cast iron cooking pan along with an iron pan of scalloped potatoes and smaller dishes of lentils and sauteed cabbage. Quite like a meal I might serve to company on a winter's eve. In the end I perhaps wished that I had joined in on the family style tip, but instead I wanted to bounce around the menu more. They were kind enough to let me sample a few forkfuls of lamb and it was excellent, tender as can be with a caramelized crust.
    I ordered a starter and a main. I can't remember the exacts of the descriptions of the dishes, but I'll do my best.

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    For my starter I ordered smoked mackerel with a kind of slaw that had apple and large beet chunks. The slaw was pretty nice, a bit haphazard in its knife work, but the crunchy, sweet, creamy interplay worked well with the oily, smoky fish. The fish was fantastic, I could totally eat that for breakfast!

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    My main was roast pigeon with pan fried polenta and braised chikory. The veg was served really rustic style, leaves attached at the base of the stalk, it was a little tough to wrangle actually. The polenta was nice, the crisping came through at first, but lost its consistency as it absorbed the puddle of jus on the plate. The pigeon was great, cooked medium with a gamy, minerally richness. I've tried to cook pigeon before but have always dried it out- a quick sear and roast in the pan like this next time. The one issue with small birds like this is that there is not a whole lot to be done with the legs and wings unless they are deep-fried to a palatable crisp.

    Briefly, to address my mental notes on gastro-pubs vs. normal pubs vs. the newfangled American versions of these: The Anchor & Hope was turning out really nice plates of English cooking featuring high- quality ingredients that to me reflected a more provincial or home style cuisine rather than the urban soak-up-the-beer type of fare. There were no burgers or fish n chips to be found on this menu- dishes more common at your average corner pub. We did go to other pubs where interesting sounding things like potted shrimp shared menu space with chilli nachos- perhaps everyplace wants to cash in on a little "gastro". Menus at ampersand-heavy joints on this side of the pond seem to feature both styles of farm-to-table Anglo cuisine and the more common pub grub that might seem to us paradigmatic of English food. Not a criticism, just an observation- after the Brits have had some time to refine the concept- the trend started with The Eagle in London in 1991. And also, The Anchor & Hope was the only restaurant of this style that we visited, for all I know the Eagle could be slinging up bacon sammies.

    Also of note was that the beer list was rather pedestrian and slight at The Anchor & Hope. I was frustrated for most of the trip with beer selections everywhere, always the on tap usual suspects with a handful of handpulled cask ales that unfortunately just don't suit my palette. Tepid, slightly viscous, and bland, kind of resembling dishwater, I hate to say that of the four or five various pints I tried on the trip, they just don't do it for me. English ales poured cold from a bottle are a different story. A & H had a good wine list on the other hand and I noticed that many average pub offered a better selection of nicer wines than your everyday watering hole in the states.

    The next day, ravenous we trucked up to Brick Lane for a delicacy that had been raved about by just about everyone we encountered: The Salt Beef Bagel. Like Devon Street, Brick Lane was once a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, the few beigal shops a testament to this heritage. And also like Devon (the eastern stretch at least) Brick Lane in the past century has been populated by South Asian communities, in this case Bangladeshi.

    I did have an address, though with a growling belly we ducked in to the first shop we found that proclaimed itself the original:
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    The place had a quite the display of pastries and an extensive menu of bagel sandwiches. I was a bit suspect by the absence of the cranky old ladies at the counter that we'd been warned about- here, attractive young women instead. No worries, the bagel was only about three pounds, worth a try.

    By the time I'd wolfed down half of the thing, I realized that I hadn't snapped a shot:
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    Pretty damn delicious- salt beef is the American equivalent of corned beef (the English version of corned beef is unmentionable). The counter girl sliced off thick chunks of the meat from a large hunk on a chopping block on display in the front window (sorry no pic). Very nice, tender and salty meat, I enjoyed the hearty thick cuts. The bagel itself was chewy with just enough crust, properly boiled before baked, the real deal. A smear of Coleman's mustard added horseradishy zip.

    Enjoying our bagels al fresco in front of the shop I realized that the next shop over was also a beigel shop, and it was in fact the address that we meant to originally try.
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    Fortunately, I was so hungry that the first salt beef beigel had not tided me over (they aren't that big really). So, round two it was. And this place had the cranky ladies and a more concise menu:
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    Round two:
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    Another awesome sandwich- not too different from the first. The bagel here was a little more pillowy, but the meat had more textural intrigue- a bit more fat, a little chew on the outer bits.
    I will crave these. I've never had the corned beef at New York Bagel & Bialy, but I imagine there would be the place to approximate this lovely creature. NYB&B most likely slices the meat thin, which wouldn't be right. And do they serve it hot? That's another primal aspect of the sbb experience. I'm sure they have a zippy mustard but not Coleman's. Hmm, there must be a way to come up with a facsimile, maybe at home...

    Skipping ahead-
    I had also heard legends of the Turkish food on the East End. Mangal seemed to be the spot. After all, Gilbert & George eat there everyday. However, my good buddy, intrepid food sleuth, occasional LTH poster, and East End resident, Chris Powers had his own local favorite. I would not argue with this guy. To Hackney we went for Kurdish kebabs at Neden Urfa.
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    A hole in the wall spot with two tables, impeccably clean with a very spartan grill set up and a small pizza oven. A refrigerated case displayed the lovely kebabs.
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    It was clear that Chris was way down with these guys, apparently he eats here several times a day in some cases (such as that day). Chris and the guys engaged in rapport about ingredient prices at the market. An enthusiastic conversation ensued about their house ground sumac and namesake urfa biber dried hot pepper. I tasted both, a prelude to the taste sensations coming our way.

    Sumac
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    Urfa Biber
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    A family business, the son/ owner was at the helm that night, but apparently the parents do the cooking on some nights. A shorty nephew and a brother were also lending a hand that evening. Watching these guys work was enthralling. This wad was truly artisinal with no short cuts made. This is food at its best- bridging local, cross-cultural relationships, adhering to time tested, scratch recipes, and just unbelievably tasty.
    We ordered adana kebabs and lahmajoun.

    Kebabs went on the grill over live lump charcoal:
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    Then our guy rolled out dough for the lahmajoun:
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    Topped with ground lamb mixture:
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    I was really surprised when he began rolling out more dough, freshly made flatbread for the kebabs!
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    I didn't get a shot of the preparation of the salad that topped the kebabs, but he finely chopped tomato, onion, and lettuce and tossed it together with a generous squeeze of lemon and a liberal dusting of sumac.

    Topping the kebab:
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    We quickly hurried back to the flat with our bounty.

    Lahmajoun
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    Lahmajoun was some of the best I've had on an etherally thin, crispy- in- spots crust.

    Adana Kebab
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    The kebab was the main event though. The meat was incredible- hand minced to a fairly course texture and mixed with onion, red pepper, parsley, garlic, and the urfa chile. Beyond this complex seasoning it was redolent of smoky char. The salad mix offered more bright popping flavor, crisp and tart. I was really impressed that the kebab needed no further seasoning, it had no sauce, nor did it need any. This was the best wrapped sandwich of any class- kebab, burrito, taco, etc. that I have probably ever ate. Unfortunately, I could not find the address for Neden Urfa online, so unless you ask Chris personally, this gem of a spot will remain a hidden secret in the hills of Hackney.

    And finally, we sampled some London Vietnamese at Song Que in Shoreditch.

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    Pho and citrusy salad was just what the doctor ordered after a long night at the pubs. I ordered my usuals:

    Bo La Lot
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    These little dudes had a higher betel leaf to meat filling ratio than my benchmark at Pho Xua here in town and were therefore a little less satisfying. The pickled veggies in that pepper cup were nice. Wasn't sure what to do with the rice noodles, wrap 'em up I guessed.

    Green Papaya Salad with Shrimp and Pork
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    An excellent rendition, lemony and herbaceous, heavy on the rau ram. The shrimp was of very high quality, fresh and sweet. The pork slices were hiding under the prawn crisps and were quite mild, seemingly just simply poached.

    Pho with Rare Beef and Bible Tripe
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    A lovely bowl, with a very refined clear broth. Slight note of cassia and star anise. Very tender meats, toothsome noodles, perfect. The garnish plate was fairly standard- bean sprouts, Thai basil, culantro, but with fiery red chile slices rather than the ubiquitous-round-these-parts jalapeño, a nice twist.

    All in all the food was as good as any in Chicago. I must note the price difference though- the Bo La Lot, while plated with dramatic flair was priced at around 7 pounds as opposed to 4 bucks at Pho Xua. The other dishes were also around 7 pounds. Perhaps the prices are due to its fashionable location. We arrived to a 15 minute wait and the clientele leaned toward the gringo side.

    London, I love you. One of the greats. From a fine dining culture with reverence for local foodways and farm-to-table ethics to ethnic street food that is prepared from scratch, some of the best eating anywhere.

    The Anchor & Hope
    36 The Cut
    Waterloo, London SE1 8LP
    Tel: 020 7928 9898

    Beigel Factory
    155 Brick Lane
    Shoreditch, London E1 6SB
    Tel: 020 7729 0826

    Brick Lane Beigel Bakery
    159 Brick Lane
    Shoreditch, London, E1 6SB
    Tel.: 020 7729 0616

    Song Que
    134 Kingsland Road,
    Shoreditch, London, E2 8DY
    Tel.: 020 7613 3222
  • Post #24 - January 22nd, 2011, 12:03 am
    Post #24 - January 22nd, 2011, 12:03 am Post #24 - January 22nd, 2011, 12:03 am
    It's so nice to read reviews from people who are enjoying dining in London. I love London, and I love the food in London. In 10 trips, including living there as a student, I can remember only a couple of so-so meals, but everything else has always been wonderful, from the great pub lunches (ploughman's lunch is my favorite) to the great seafood, ethnic eateries to the great cheese shops (Neal's Yard and Paxton & Whitfield will make a cheese lover hyperventilate), Borough Market to Harrod's Food Halls. And I count on getting a great meal of game at Rules (wild highland red deer is my favorite). The piri piri shops, the great take-away at Waitrose, the salt beef, the fish and chips, the fried plaice.

    So thanks for the report. It's lovely seeing London getting the culinary respect it deserves. I've got to get back again.
    "All great change in America begins at the dinner table." Ronald Reagan

    http://midwestmaize.wordpress.com
  • Post #25 - January 24th, 2011, 10:09 am
    Post #25 - January 24th, 2011, 10:09 am Post #25 - January 24th, 2011, 10:09 am
    Great report, though reading it I get the vague impression that food crawls in London, Chicago, NYC and LA (for example) can be remarkably consistent. Then again, Turkish, Vietnamese, and Jewish soul foods always make for a good trip.

    (By the way, this is no knock -- I think this just proves that in huge cosmopolitan cities, the cream rises to the top. LON needs Mexican, though :wink: .)
  • Post #26 - January 24th, 2011, 2:29 pm
    Post #26 - January 24th, 2011, 2:29 pm Post #26 - January 24th, 2011, 2:29 pm
    JeffB wrote:LON needs Mexican, though :wink: .)


    I ate at a Mexican restaurant in Bratislava over the summer. Makes British Mexican look authentic.
  • Post #27 - January 27th, 2011, 6:11 pm
    Post #27 - January 27th, 2011, 6:11 pm Post #27 - January 27th, 2011, 6:11 pm
    more on Neden Urfa here : http://cuizine.tumblr.com/post/20709612 ... nds-finest

    anyone heading to london - message me if you want to go get a kebab
  • Post #28 - January 27th, 2011, 7:02 pm
    Post #28 - January 27th, 2011, 7:02 pm Post #28 - January 27th, 2011, 7:02 pm
    Whaddup, cpowers!
    After reading your fine review I must note several misremembered details that I relied too heavily on the old Google to sort out for me-
    The neighborhood is Clapton Pond, not Hackney. Lahmajoun should be spelled lamacun. And what Google and I called "adana" kebab is called "kofta" at Neden Urfa.
    Thanks for more info and the best bite of the trip- sorted mate!
  • Post #29 - February 3rd, 2011, 10:54 pm
    Post #29 - February 3rd, 2011, 10:54 pm Post #29 - February 3rd, 2011, 10:54 pm
    JeffB wrote:Great report, though reading it I get the vague impression that food crawls in London, Chicago, NYC and LA (for example) can be remarkably consistent. Then again, Turkish, Vietnamese, and Jewish soul foods always make for a good trip.

    (By the way, this is no knock -- I think this just proves that in huge cosmopolitan cities, the cream rises to the top. LON needs Mexican, though :wink: .)


    And yet, each city has its specific flavor, as well as distinctly local specialties that make it obvious where you are. Eating Stilton soup and wild Highland red deer at Rules, or enjoying a good ploughman's lunch at a pub, or queuing up for a nice meat pie or jellied eel in Greenwich, or splashing malt vinegar on my chips, or drinking my tea with milk in it, or finding cider on tap everywhere I go -- I know I'm in London.
    "All great change in America begins at the dinner table." Ronald Reagan

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