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    Post #1 - September 30th, 2007, 11:26 pm
    Post #1 - September 30th, 2007, 11:26 pm Post #1 - September 30th, 2007, 11:26 pm
    There is a fish in Chinese cuisine often referred to as Longli. Does anyone know what this fish is called in English?

    Sorry--don't have any pics. But it is one of the most frequently ordered fish in Chinese restaurants (at least in the U.S.).
  • Post #2 - October 1st, 2007, 8:56 am
    Post #2 - October 1st, 2007, 8:56 am Post #2 - October 1st, 2007, 8:56 am
    Carp?-Dick
  • Post #3 - October 1st, 2007, 10:54 am
    Post #3 - October 1st, 2007, 10:54 am Post #3 - October 1st, 2007, 10:54 am
    Longli is a kind of sole
  • Post #4 - October 1st, 2007, 11:02 am
    Post #4 - October 1st, 2007, 11:02 am Post #4 - October 1st, 2007, 11:02 am
    It's flounder.

    Image

    Typical serving-style in Chinese restaurants; I'm assuming the ones you're eating are larger.
  • Post #5 - October 1st, 2007, 2:09 pm
    Post #5 - October 1st, 2007, 2:09 pm Post #5 - October 1st, 2007, 2:09 pm
    pretty fish pic but that's not Longli though (at least not the ones i had in Hong Kong before i moved here)

    its a flat fish but thinner, i am pretty sure its a type of sole

    it used to be my fav fish when i was a kid until my dad decided to cook it every other day for a month....
  • Post #6 - October 2nd, 2007, 5:24 pm
    Post #6 - October 2nd, 2007, 5:24 pm Post #6 - October 2nd, 2007, 5:24 pm
    Well, if you're going to qualify your expertise in such a manner, I'll have to state that my family is from Hong Kong as well.

    Let's preface this by noting that the term "soles," outside of Europe, is often improperly used to refer to many families of flatfishes outside of the true soles of the family Soleidae.

    With this in mind, we should take a look at all the fish referred to as sole available in the South China Sea.

    That leaves us with 4 fishes:

    Brachirus orientalis
    http://fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=8312
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    Cynoglossus arel
    http://fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=7523
    Image

    Cynoglossus trulla
    http://fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=9243
    Image

    Zebrias zebra
    http://fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=8999
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    Flounders native to the South China Sea include:

    Pseudorhombus javanicus
    http://fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=1335
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    If you still haven't found your fish. I submit to you this database:

    Flounders of the World
    http://fishbase.org/ComNames/CommonName ... e=flounder

    Soles of the World
    http://fishbase.org/ComNames/CommonName ... nName=sole

    I suspect, that the Chinese use of the name long li, is probably utilized in a generalized manner of referring to various types of flatfishes - whichever is currently available for sale that particular year as previous types have been overfished.

    I'm sure what people were initially eating as "long li" in Hong Kong 20 years ago, is probably not what they're eating now. Since Hong Kong is a large importer of fish, particularly live species, I highly doubt that what they're eating as "long li" is even local.

    In any case, I am very sure, that if one was to order long li at a Chinese restaurant, you would invariably get some type of flatfish... and hopefully not this:

    Image
  • Post #7 - October 3rd, 2007, 8:36 pm
    Post #7 - October 3rd, 2007, 8:36 pm Post #7 - October 3rd, 2007, 8:36 pm
    Thanks for the info, everyone. I appreciate it.

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