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    Post #1 - June 9th, 2004, 1:52 am
    Post #1 - June 9th, 2004, 1:52 am Post #1 - June 9th, 2004, 1:52 am
    Hi,

    Earlier this year, I attended an Icelandic late winter festival Thorrablot. One of the traditional foods served was Rotten Shark, whice I commented:

    The first time, I tried Rotten Shark as-is: you had to ignore the ammonia odor and concentrate on the taste. I then tried it again with the "hardly innocent" punch, which was Hawaiian punch, Sprite, Peach Schnapps and Svedka Vodka - more alcohol in a fruit punch than I ever encountered before in my life. Still the ammonia odor lingered. I then had it the classic Icelandic style: Rotten Shark with a Black Death chaser and there was absolutely no ammonia odor present, an interesting phenomena and quite good.


    The lingering question in my mind was why the ammonia smell disapeered with the Black Death chaser and lingered with other drinks. Last night, I was seated next to a chemist at a graduation dinner, who provided the answer: the presence of an acid of pH 3 or pH 4 neutralizes ammonia. Thus Black Death has a pH in the favorable range, but the fruit punch has a higher pH rendering it unable to neutralize the ammonia. If you could tolerate a vinegar chaser, it would be one option of a non-alcoholic ammonia neutralizer. Of course with a little litmus paper, one may be able to find a more palatable chaser than vinegar.

    Household hint: if you have an accidental Ammonia spill, then drop vinegar on to neutralize it and the odor.

    Better Living Through Chemistry!

    Cathy2

    My earlier post on Thorrablot 2004, The Icelandic Association of Chicago:

    https://www.chowhound.com/post/thorrablot-2004-icelandic-association-chicago-115401 and copied later in this thread.
    Cathy2

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  • Post #2 - June 9th, 2004, 1:28 pm
    Post #2 - June 9th, 2004, 1:28 pm Post #2 - June 9th, 2004, 1:28 pm
    Here's something that I sent to the list-serve after one of Cathy2's mentions of rotted shark, for those who didn't already see it:

    To get back to the more appetizing subject of rotted shark, however (and it's only going to get worse, I should warn you)-- as I recall from reading all sorts of websites after Cathy brought up this awful stuff the first time, the issue is that the shark, being rather a primitive sort of chap, doesn't pee out his urea like your more advanced, hip, a-go-go fishes. It is instead excreted through the skin.

    So if you catch a shark and just start popping him into your mouth off the bone, his flesh is full of not-yet-excreted urea and you'll be poisoned, or at least deeply disgusted. The Icelanders had the idea, well, let's bury it for months until it rots and the ammonia is converted to something slightly more appetizing, like ptomaine. So they got used to the habit of eating this horrid stuff, and no one has ever had the heart to tell them that all you need to do is hang the shark up and bleed it dry before you make filets out of it, and you'll drain all the urea out and be left with fresh, non-rotted shark meat. (Hungry yet? As H.P. Lovecraft said, in one of my favorite opening lines in all of literature: "Life is a hideous thing." Reportedly, in the first draft it was "lunch.")
  • Post #3 - February 4th, 2006, 7:48 pm
    Post #3 - February 4th, 2006, 7:48 pm Post #3 - February 4th, 2006, 7:48 pm
    I learned today that Iceland hasn't got a monopoly on buried treasure.

    Here is a synopsis of Paul Bocuse's method for bringing out the best in a turkey. (Reportedly, this is a "family recipe.") Stuff a small turkey (7 lbs.) with a pound of sausage meat and a pound of fresh black truffles. Add a few truffle slices under the skin for a nice effect. Wrap it well in paper, then in a burlap bag. Prepare a shallow hole in the ground, and bury the turkey for a few days. The earth brings out the truffles' best aroma. Dig up the turkey after two days and poach in court bouillon--about 1 1/2 hours. Enjoy!

    Certainly gives new meaning to the phrase "a la demi-deuil,"
    doesn't it? It seems to me that the "Black Death" Cathy2 referred to would be the perfect thing to drink with this dish.

    Warning: Sensitive readers are warned to stop reading here.

    This thread also reminded me of my Uncle Jack's recipe for coot (A Northern game bird):
    1) Shoot, gut and pluck a nice-sized coot.
    2) Soak coot in 1 part vinegar to 2 parts water, well salted, for up to
    48 hours.
    3) Obtain a broad cedar board, well soaked in water.
    4) Nail the coot to the board.
    5) Carefully line interior of coot with sturdy leaves.
    6) Pack interior of coot with dog poop.*
    7) Pack rock salt around the coot, completely covering it.
    8) Build underground smoker
    9) Smoke coot for 6 hours at very low heat.
    10) Uncover pit and remove coot
    11) Throw out the coot and eat the board.

    * We were little kids when he gave us this recipe
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  • Post #4 - February 4th, 2006, 7:52 pm
    Post #4 - February 4th, 2006, 7:52 pm Post #4 - February 4th, 2006, 7:52 pm
    A POUND of truffles?
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  • Post #5 - February 4th, 2006, 8:27 pm
    Post #5 - February 4th, 2006, 8:27 pm Post #5 - February 4th, 2006, 8:27 pm
    Mike G wrote:A POUND of truffles?
    :shock:
  • Post #6 - February 4th, 2006, 8:46 pm
    Post #6 - February 4th, 2006, 8:46 pm Post #6 - February 4th, 2006, 8:46 pm
    Mike G wrote:A POUND of truffles?


    Must be a misprint.
    Bocuse was French, oui? It must have been a kilogram.
  • Post #7 - February 4th, 2006, 10:25 pm
    Post #7 - February 4th, 2006, 10:25 pm Post #7 - February 4th, 2006, 10:25 pm
    HI,

    I just went over to the Icelandic Association of Chicago website to check when Thorrablot will be this year. Sadly the event was tonight with a band flown in from Iceland.

    Two years ago it was a humdinger of a party. I will just have to check earlier next year.

    Regards,
    Cathy2

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  • Post #8 - February 4th, 2006, 11:26 pm
    Post #8 - February 4th, 2006, 11:26 pm Post #8 - February 4th, 2006, 11:26 pm
    Gentlemen,

    Indeed, the recipe calls for 500 grams of truffles and an equal amount of sausage. Actually, what surprised me was the fact that the type of sausage is not specified. What Would Jimmy Dean Do? And what about using a turkey fryer and performing the poaching outside? You might have to shoo the neighborhood pigs away, but it could be fun.

    and Lady,

    Alas, we will have to wait 'til next year to wax Icelandic. But could you help me obtain a bottle of "Black Death"? Anything with a name that threatening I MUST try.
    Man : I can't understand how a poet like you can eat that stuff.
    T. S. Eliot: Ah, but you're not a poet.
  • Post #9 - February 5th, 2006, 9:58 am
    Post #9 - February 5th, 2006, 9:58 am Post #9 - February 5th, 2006, 9:58 am
    HI,

    For Black Death, I suggest contacting the Icelandic Association of Chicago in a day or two. They need time to recover from last night.

    The black poop, we sure do hope is a joke.

    Yet I have a friend who used to raise pheasant, then allowed them to roam her property and then they would shoot them for sport and dinner. Her preferred method of pretreating them was to hang them undressed by the neck in her shed. They were ready once the bird fell to the floor in a few weeks. When Fergus Henderson was here last year, I asked him about my friend's method which was his preference as well.

    So lot's of odd preparations can have a historical context one never is exposed to in these days of refrigeration and flash freezing.

    Regards,
    Cathy2

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  • Post #10 - February 5th, 2006, 12:34 pm
    Post #10 - February 5th, 2006, 12:34 pm Post #10 - February 5th, 2006, 12:34 pm
    Cathy2 wrote:The black poop, we sure do hope is a joke.

    Indeed it is -- a hunter's joke on the disappointing taste of coot. However, please note that the punchline never suggests that you eat the poop. It is the BOARD you are supposed to consume. As Garrison Keillor often reminds us, Minnesotans are a shy breed, and would never suggest something so rude, even in a joke.
    Man : I can't understand how a poet like you can eat that stuff.
    T. S. Eliot: Ah, but you're not a poet.
  • Post #11 - February 9th, 2006, 12:28 pm
    Post #11 - February 9th, 2006, 12:28 pm Post #11 - February 9th, 2006, 12:28 pm
    March 5, 2004:

    Thorrablot 2004, The Icelandic Association of Chicago wrote:“Generally, there is a vague sense that Thorri was some kind of personification of winter, married to a womanly Wight named Goa (the first two months in the Icelandic calendar are supposed to be called after them). According to some Icelandic traditions, the wife went out to greet Thorri and the man went out to greet Goa, who was addressed as being milder than her rough husband. According to others, the man of the farm was supposed to go out half-dressed and walk around the house at the feast of Thorri.

    “The origin of the name Thorri is unknown, although, Icelanders have known the name itself since the 11th century. Likely speculation is that Thorri is one of many nicknames for the god Thor. Soon, however, Thorri became the metaphor and personator for the harsh Icelandic winters, and is today commonly used as such.”

    A celebration breaking the back of winter seemed like a pretty good idea Saturday with the first bits of warm, sunny days peaking through the veil of winter. Of course, a month ago when M'Th'Su posted the event information on the listserv, because announcements are nipped off on CH, I printed a copy out for my Mother’s amusement. After that, I was getting a daily inquiry of whether or not I wanted to go. I weakened and gave in just to stop the conversation, however I am glad she kept after me because it was one terrific evening. Yeah, yeah, yeah sometimes Mother knows best … and you wonder how I came to be where I am today … the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    The announcement advised a 6:30 sharp commencement of events. I was sweating bullets all the good stuff, like the pickled testicles, would be gone when we pulled up at 6:45 PM at The Swedish Museum. Often such interesting niblets are present in token quantities and I didn’t want to miss what little may be available. I quickly learned, I really had nothing to worry about.

    Once we checked in, I moved over to the cocktail section. They were serving an innocent looking red punch and shots of Black Death (Islensku Brennivini) along with Gravlax with Mustard Sauce and something which looked cheese cubes. These were no cheese cubes instead they were the Rotten Shark (Hakarl). The first time, I tried Rotten Shark as-is: you had to ignore the ammonia odor and concentrate on the taste. I then tried it again with the "hardly innocent" punch, which was Hawaiian punch, Sprite, Peach Schnapps and Svedka Vodka – more alcohol in a fruit punch than I ever encountered before in my life. Still the ammonia odor lingered. I then had it the classic Icelandic style: Rotten Shark with a Black Death chaser and there was absolutely no ammonia odor present, an interesting phenomena and quite good. AS I was the designated driver, I could not allow myself to get too loopy. So I just had to put up with the ammonia odor for the remaining bits of rotted shark I choose to eat. Later, there was a 3-year-old girl at my table who ate maybe two dozen pieces as-is!

    Of course, I had to know how Rotten Shark is prepared. I was advised the Shark is caught, then buried in the sand for at least 3 months. If they are blessed with the correct weather, the shark is dug up and (because it is rather oozy) left to dry for several months. The shark is then sliced up and eaten. If the weather was too rainy and certain temperatures levels are not maintained, when they dig up the shark 3 months later it is considered too rotten to pursue.

    I was waiting in line with an elegantly dressed woman and her equally sophisticated looking husband, later I learned he was the Ambassador for Iceland. They were discussing how favorite Icelandic foods are just socially unacceptable in the United States. Quick to reassure them, I advised I had just eaten Ant Eggs earlier in the week. Having peaked their interest, they inquired if the Ant Eggs tasted like caviar. I offered they were rather neutral tasting, were a bit chewy and about the size of the puff at the end of a Q-tip. Sometimes I find with my encounters with people, I provide more information than they really wanted and they are just left speechless. However, these people were pleasantly unflappable.

    Toward the end of the cocktail party, I committed a faux pas, which had the potential of just ruining the evening. I accidentally spilled my freshly poured hardly innocent red punch into the Gravlax platter. Nobody said a word. Nobody batted an eye as I tried to rescue the situation by grabbing all the cocktail napkins and blotting the Gravlax dry. A very nice gentleman wordlessly tilted the platter so I could recover more punch from the Gravlax. Nobody did anything to highlight my awkward situation, which I am especially grateful. Is it an Icelandic cultural trait or simply a group of very nice people, maybe both?

    We then congregated to the dining area where an American married to an Icelander performed master of ceremony duties. He introduced the President of the Icelandic Association who spoke alternately in English as well as Icelandic, a language which reminds me of Dutch, who then introduced the Ambassador. The Ambassador made the usual pleasant remarks, then called up his wife. He referred to a traditional Icelandic song originating in 1858, which he and the wife proceeded to sing. Around the room, other voices joined in though it was the minority of those present.

    Dinner was served buffet style with a menu including imported Icelandic specialties as well as food to appease an American audience:

    Icelandic Thorrafood:

    Pickled Whale (Sur Hvalrengi) [Sadly, not present with apologies]
    Smoked Lamb Briskets (Magáll)
    Sheep heads (Svidakjammer)
    Bechemale sauce – Sweet Peas – Red Cabbage (Uppstuf – Graenar Baunir – Raudkal)
    Mashed Rutabagas and Boiled Potatoes (Rofustappa og Sodnar Kartõflur)
    Rotten Shark and Schapps (Hakarl med Islensku Brennivini)
    Dried Haddock with butter (Hardfiskur med Smjori)
    Flatbread Lamb Pate and Lamb Sausage (Flatkokur med kaefu og Rullupylsu)
    Home made Rye Bread (Heimabakad Rugbrauo)
    Bloodpudding (Blódmõr)
    Liverpudding (Lifrapylsa)
    Sheep Head Pate (Svidasulta) [head cheese]
    Smoked Lamb (Hangikjot)
    Pickled Testicles (Hrutspungar)

    American Buffet:

    Sour cream, pickled and Mustard Herring (Blonduo Sild)
    Spiral Slides Honey Ham (Hunangsgljao Skinka)
    Roast Beef (Nidursneiddur Nautavodvi)
    Potatoes with Parsley (Kartofluor med Steinslejusmjori)
    Fresh Garden Salad with Vinagrette (Fersku Salat med Saltsosu)
    Dinner Rolls (Braudbollur med Smjori)
    Icelandic Pancakes with butter and sugar or whipping cream with lingonberries (Skyr, Sykur og Rjoma Ponnsur)
    Freshly Brewed Coffee (Nylagad kaffi)

    The Icelandic food came from Bautinn Restaurant, Akyreyri (462-1818, www.bautinn.is). Other catering came from Wickstrom’s Restaurant.

    Mother and I were very fortunate to sit with an Icelandic native named Matta, her daughter and 3-year-old granddaughter. They were quite pleased to act as our culinary and cultural tour guides as we worked our way through the dinner:
    - Just reeling with disappointment there was no pickled whale.
    - Dried, flattened haddock sections were mounded on a platter. They are eaten on buttered flat bread.
    - Sheep’s head are prepared by scorching the hair off by fire, scrubbed very well to removed any charred bits, then boiled. The presentation at the buffet was half heads, with the brains removed, and the jaws disconnected. So you could take a little bit, the jaw, or a lot, the upper quarter.
    - Icelandic Pancakes are 8 inch diameter dessert crepes. If served with sugar, then it is sprinkled and rolled. If whipping cream is your preference, then the lightly whipped, lightly sweetened whipped cream is spread on the crepe then folded in half. The lingonberries are spread on the half folded crepe, then folded again into a quarter. [In my efforts not to be a glutton, I made myself appreciate the concept and the taste of one serving. Self control won over my real desire to get many more.]
    - Nobody drives to parties. It is expected there will be sufficient levels of drinking that everyone sleeps over at the party’s location. Even if the party begins in a restaurant, once it closes they drift over to someone’s home to continue. It is also not unusual as the evening progresses to find the women dancing in their bras.
    - Icelandic Hot Dogs are made of lamb, are skinny and longer than the bun served with strong Icelandic mustard and dried onions.
    - Everyone in Iceland sits down to dinner at 6 PM.

    At the close of dinner, Einar Steinsson, President of the Icelandic Association of Chicago, reluctantly demonstrated how to eat a sheep’s head. He began by reminiscing about herding sheep for his father, where his “lunchbox” was a cooked sheep head. He started with the lower jaw indicating it was the children’s favorite because they love the tongue. He then proceeded to the upper head, where he took a knife to strip thin slices of meat off the cheeks. Last but not least, he dug into the eye sockets and dropped the contents into his mouth.

    After dinner, all those who spoke Icelandic got up to sing songs. One tune I recognized as an Irish folk tune, with all the lyrics in Icelandic. Another American married to an Icelander sang, “Fly Me to the Moon.” For this occasion, they even imported the band from Iceland. They were called "The Haggish" with band members Júlíus Ólafsson who plays the guitar and sings; and Lárus Grímsson who plays the keyboard and sings. Júlíus and Lárus live in Reykjavík.

    During a break, they had an open mike for anyone who wanted to provide an anecdote or sing. The first person to break the ice surprisingly was not an Icelander, but an American writer. By appearance, this woman reminded me of a young Shelley Long. She thanked everyone for the lovely and congenial evening, then proceed to explain she was 100% Irish which meant she was part Viking given the frequency Vikings vacationed in Ireland. What a hoot! She is in the process of writing a book featuring people of Iceland and hopes someday we can read her book. Interestingly, this was a second time that evening someone had told me to read her story. Our very congenial Matta was the first to advise I should read her story. She was recently featured in a chapter of Stud’s Terkel’s latest book on or about page 355, which was: Hope Dies Last: Keeping the Faith in Difficult Times.

    Dancing continued on with music with Icelandic lyrics with an occasional one sung in English for variety. The party was still in its infancy when someone suggested there be a line dance, “Everyone get up!” Mom and I headed for the exit.

    The $55 head tax for this peek at Icelandic society, culture and food was worth every penny. I really cannot wait until next year!

    Thanks again, M'Th'Su for the heads up!

    Cathy2
    Cathy2

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  • Post #12 - February 9th, 2006, 11:48 pm
    Post #12 - February 9th, 2006, 11:48 pm Post #12 - February 9th, 2006, 11:48 pm
    Cathy - Thanks for posting this. You are a force of nature!

    Awhile ago I read a travel feature on Rekyavik as a mid-winter tourist destination for New Yorkers. While I was somewhat skeptical about the journalists' claims regarding typical Icelandic party customs, your research confirms that the accounts I read were not exaggerated. I'm guessing that one night of partying Icelandic style would be my current limit. But I'd sure like to visit Iceland to prove or disprove my suspicion. I understand that there are enormous hot-springs to bathe in all over the country. A good soak sounds like just the thing to recover one's strength for hunting trolls. (They are thought to live in Icelandic boulders).
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  • Post #13 - May 27th, 2006, 2:25 pm
    Post #13 - May 27th, 2006, 2:25 pm Post #13 - May 27th, 2006, 2:25 pm
    Earlier this month I was in Norway. Late one evening in Oslo I was running thru the TV channels when I saw a shark being cut apart by an old fisherman. The language sounded Scandinavian, but there were sub-titles. Then a map of Iceland appeared and I realized the show was in Icelandic with Norwegian translation.

    Pieces of shark flesh were then put into some type of container and obviously being set aside for a while. The host of the show was chatting with the fellow cutting the shark apart and some pieces from the box were chewed and then spat out with lots of joking.

    Then the scene switched and several men were seated at a table while they ate shark. The narrator appeared to be reluctant while the others encouraged him. They put pieces of shark into a glass of clear liquid which I presume was a local version of aquavit. The narrator then ate the shark and his expression indicated that it tasted better. I thought I saw the Norwegian word for cheese (“ost”) appear in a sub-title, so he could have been saying the shark tasted somewhat like cheese after being dunked in the aquavit.

    It was a great LTH moment.
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  • Post #14 - May 27th, 2006, 5:40 pm
    Post #14 - May 27th, 2006, 5:40 pm Post #14 - May 27th, 2006, 5:40 pm
    George R wrote: They put pieces of shark into a glass of clear liquid which I presume was a local version of aquavit. The narrator then ate the shark and his expression indicated that it tasted better. I thought I saw the Norwegian word for cheese (“ost”) appear in a sub-title, so he could have been saying the shark tasted somewhat like cheese after being dunked in the aquavit.

    It was a great LTH moment.


    It could very well have been aquavit...though it might also have been BLACK DEATH, which I understand is a schnapps-type beverage of caraway and spud, typically consumed at Thorrablot -- and I would need at least a drink of that caliber to suck down moldering shark.

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  • Post #15 - July 25th, 2006, 10:40 am
    Post #15 - July 25th, 2006, 10:40 am Post #15 - July 25th, 2006, 10:40 am
    Actually, Iceland in February is a great destination. You can tour the geyser fields (and learn that "geyser" is actually an Icelandic word, meaning "gushing," so the geyser in Iceland is actually the first water spout to have been called a geyser), peruse copies of the Icelandic sagas, soak in the fabulous, geothermally-heated blue lagoon -- and celebrate Thorrablot with the locals. We went to a Viking restaurant the served several of the requisite dishes -- rotted shark, dried cod, ram's testicle, and a ram's horn filled with Black Death/Viking schnapps. Fortunately, this was followed by lamb steak and baked potato, so you didn't have to make your entire meal out of the odder fare.

    The temperature averages abou 32-34 degrees in February -- generally slightly warmer than Chicago at that time (thanks to the Gulf Stream).

    And the best thing about Iceland in February is the cost is around $350 for airfare and a couple of nights in a hotel (with breakfast), flying from Boston or Minneapolis on Icelandair. We went a couple of years ago, and it was a fabulous little long-weekend trip. We stayed a couple of nights in Boston and then headed on to Iceland. And Thorrablot isn't the only dining option -- Iceland has some great restaurants, including the world-class Black Pearl, but also lots of great, small places serving good, hearty, lamb or fish dinners. (In Iceland, "meat" means "lamb.") The people are delightful, the scenery is gorgeous, and the price is right.
  • Post #16 - July 20th, 2007, 9:22 pm
    Post #16 - July 20th, 2007, 9:22 pm Post #16 - July 20th, 2007, 9:22 pm
    Found clip of Icelandic shark preparation on Youtube -- it doesn't look very tasty, but I'd probably eat it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbYqznD0R5M&feature=dir
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  • Post #17 - July 20th, 2007, 9:56 pm
    Post #17 - July 20th, 2007, 9:56 pm Post #17 - July 20th, 2007, 9:56 pm
    Having never met Mr Hammond, (if that is his real name) I some how get the feeling if I marinated an old tire in sea urchin snot for three days he would at least try it. I speculate Cathy 2 might find the thought appalling and then ask "hey why didn't you save me a taste."

    You don't have to admire adventurous behavior like this, might be a good idea to fear it, worth admiring though.
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  • Post #18 - July 20th, 2007, 10:10 pm
    Post #18 - July 20th, 2007, 10:10 pm Post #18 - July 20th, 2007, 10:10 pm
    Sundaysous wrote:Having never met Mr Hammond, (if that is his real name) I some how get the feeling if I marinated an old tire in sea urchin snot for three days he would at least try it. I speculate Cathy 2 might find the thought appalling and then ask "hey why didn't you save me a taste."

    Mr. Hammond, aka David 'The Hat' Hammond and Cathy2, aka Cathy2, are quite real. Just ask a few hundred cicadas. :)

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  • Post #19 - July 20th, 2007, 10:13 pm
    Post #19 - July 20th, 2007, 10:13 pm Post #19 - July 20th, 2007, 10:13 pm
    Sundaysous,

    Next February, you are challenged to try delectable rotted shark. At my last rotted shark meal, there was a 3-year-old cheerfully eating it with the full ammonia impact. There was no way she was going to get her hands on Black Death to vanish the odor. Nope, she did what the other adults at the table found to be perfectly normal and acceptable behavior.

    Yes, the wee one is just like David and I. You are welcome to join the club.

    Regards,
    Cathy2

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  • Post #20 - July 20th, 2007, 10:38 pm
    Post #20 - July 20th, 2007, 10:38 pm Post #20 - July 20th, 2007, 10:38 pm
    Cathy2

    I feel honored by the invite and will block out the entire month of Feburary just in case. *Valentine's 2008, "babes we're going out for seafood*

    There are others in this thread that deserve mention. Why am I sucking up to you two? Because purple that's why.
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  • Post #21 - July 21st, 2007, 7:20 am
    Post #21 - July 21st, 2007, 7:20 am Post #21 - July 21st, 2007, 7:20 am
    I'm going to be in Iceland in May 2008. I don't know if any rotten shark will be available at that time of year (I think I'd try a bite), but my plan is to stop over in New York on my way to Reykjavik and visit Damien Hirst's shark, soon to arrive at the Met, even though it's not the original...
  • Post #22 - July 21st, 2007, 1:21 pm
    Post #22 - July 21st, 2007, 1:21 pm Post #22 - July 21st, 2007, 1:21 pm
    Sundaysous wrote:Having never met Mr Hammond, (if that is his real name) I some how get the feeling if I marinated an old tire in sea urchin snot for three days he would at least try it. I speculate Cathy 2 might find the thought appalling and then ask "hey why didn't you save me a taste."

    You don't have to admire adventurous behavior like this, might be a good idea to fear it, worth admiring though.


    I like to think of David and Cathy as the descendants of those intrepid humans who saved the species from extinction by finding new food sources in the leanest times. Who knows, maybe I owe thanks to their ancestors for my very existence. . .
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  • Post #23 - September 23rd, 2009, 9:40 pm
    Post #23 - September 23rd, 2009, 9:40 pm Post #23 - September 23rd, 2009, 9:40 pm
    A friend asked me today about suggestions for Icelandic food to go with a book club selection. I promised to find this thread and pass it on. It really is one of the all-time great LTH threads.
    It is also not unusual as the evening progresses to find the women dancing in their bras.


    I laughed and laughed re-reading. There are undoubtedly hundreds of people new to LTH who haven't had the pleasure. If you're one of them, you owe yourself the treat.
  • Post #24 - September 23rd, 2009, 10:00 pm
    Post #24 - September 23rd, 2009, 10:00 pm Post #24 - September 23rd, 2009, 10:00 pm
    I love to see LTH threads from five years ago brought back to life...and actually, if I remember correctly, this conversation began on Chowhound in the early aughts.
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  • Post #25 - September 23rd, 2009, 10:03 pm
    Post #25 - September 23rd, 2009, 10:03 pm Post #25 - September 23rd, 2009, 10:03 pm
    David Hammond wrote:I love to see LTH threads from five years ago brought back to life...and actually, if I remember correctly, this conversation began on Chowhound in the early aughts.

    Yeah, this thread began on Chowhound.

    I see this thread is truncated due to the transition. I now bow out to fix it.

    Regards,
    Cathy2

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  • Post #26 - September 24th, 2009, 9:03 pm
    Post #26 - September 24th, 2009, 9:03 pm Post #26 - September 24th, 2009, 9:03 pm
    happy_stomach wrote:I'm going to be in Iceland in May 2008. I don't know if any rotten shark will be available at that time of year (I think I'd try a bite), but my plan is to stop over in New York on my way to Reykjavik and visit Damien Hirst's shark, soon to arrive at the Met, even though it's not the original...

    Sharon, we'd all like to hear about your trip, and, of course, the shark.

    Cynthia wrote:Actually, Iceland in February is a great destination. . .
    And the best thing about Iceland in February is the cost is around $350 for airfare and a couple of nights in a hotel (with breakfast), flying from Boston or Minneapolis on Icelandair.


    Cynthia's (2006) prices are not far off on the current price of travel to Iceland. (I found $372 round-trip from Boston-Rekyavik for the first weekend of Thorrablot 2010 beginning January 22nd next year. My search yielded a number of inexpensive hotel options ($46-$76), and I have found that in Scandinavia, there is little difference between an inexpensive hotel and all but the very priciest luxury hotel. Besides, in Iceland, everyone gets a hot tub.

    IIRC Cathy2 discovered recently that the Chicago Icelandic celebration is no longer open to the public. That is a shame. Perhaps we should send an LTH delegation to restore Chicago's image with Icelanders. I feel certain we can keep up at the table. Anyone in?
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  • Post #27 - September 24th, 2009, 9:15 pm
    Post #27 - September 24th, 2009, 9:15 pm Post #27 - September 24th, 2009, 9:15 pm
    Hi,

    When this thread popped up the other day, I did check the Chicago Icelandic Association's website. Their party this year was held in a member's home due to the economic situation. It must have been some party, because the host's wooden floors were damaged.

    In the past, every other year the Chicago group held it at a public location. Unfortunately, I have missed the mark every time I have tried since my first interaction over five years ago.

    Iceland, the country, effectively went bankrupt during the economic upheaval this last year. I suggest scoping out if they are scaling back their celebrations for the near future. From what I did learn from my one interaction with the Chicago group, they seem to be a party culture. Or the group I met was party oriented, because they kept coming up with more and more lively party stories.

    Regards,
    Cathy2

    "You'll be remembered long after you're dead if you make good gravy, mashed potatoes and biscuits." -- Nathalie Dupree
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  • Post #28 - September 25th, 2009, 9:01 am
    Post #28 - September 25th, 2009, 9:01 am Post #28 - September 25th, 2009, 9:01 am
    Cathy2 wrote:Iceland, the country, effectively went bankrupt during the economic upheaval this last year. I suggest scoping out if they are scaling back their celebrations for the near future.

    You make a good point about the economy in Iceland. However, based on the limited data available, I'm guessing that Icelanders throw a helluva party no matter what the economic climate. Besides, as I wrote upthread,

    Josephine wrote:I'm guessing that one night of partying Icelandic style would be my current limit.
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