Post #391 - January 18th, 2011, 12:17 pmPost #391 - January 18th, 2011, 12:17 pm
David Hammond wrote:The first to do a song or make a dish, and thus (many times) to create the "classic" version, frequently sets in stone our notion of the right way to do the tune or the food. If your mom put beans in the chili, then classic chili contains beans; if your first taste of papaya salad was on Argyle, then that's the way a papaya salad should be done; if you grew up on thin crust, then that's the only way pizza should be made. Being the first does not mean being the best (that's obvious, right?), and I'm not saying William Shatner did Bob Dylan any favors by performing covers of his work, but there is a tyranny of the perceived "classic" that can challenge appreciation new takes.
I can understand that, but as much as I like the original Ain't Too Proud to Beg or Tangled Up in Blue, I equally enjoy the later versions by the Stones and The Indigo Girls respectively. I'd say they're as good as the originals. Cronenberg's The Fly is in many ways better than Neumann's 1958 version, despite Geena Davis. The first is not always the best, but I feel like in this case Imagine was perfect the way it was, and adding 4+ minutes, 5 artists, and a lot of fluff made it unlistenable. I haven't heard many (if any) other versions, and I'm sure there are plenty good ones; however, I think JimTheBeerGuy summed it up best.
And I don't know much about William Shatner covering Bob Dylan, but have you seen his Rocket Man? Move over, Elton John!
I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
Post #392 - January 18th, 2011, 12:33 pmPost #392 - January 18th, 2011, 12:33 pm
JimTheBeerGuy wrote:Pie Lady: I think the worst cover I've ever heard in my life is the version of "Imagine" done by A Perfect Circle. Some things should just be left alone I think, maybe not because they couldn't be made any better, but because the potential exists for them to be so much worse.
Wow. Lifehouse would be rolling over in its grave if it was dead.
I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love
There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach
Post #408 - February 27th, 2011, 11:22 amPost #408 - February 27th, 2011, 11:22 am
just delving into the WSP show from 2/10/2011 from Athens, GA. Set II out of Drums
Magnificent, soaring,transcendent, brilliant: Drums >> Fire on the Mountain..
Jimmy Herring seems to channel Jerry Garcia circa 1977-79 in this version. Jimmy captures the magic of Garcia, the last 5 minutes of drums have Jimmy noodling around Fire, which he then charges into with a guitar solo that trumpets what is to come, casting a mystical spell that left me with my mouth agape. If i was blindfolded and heard the last 5 minutes of Drums into the first 3 minute of Fire I would guess I was listening to some Dead from arguably the Dead and Jerry's prime, 1977-1979, some of my favorite years. This version embodied a lyric from the song Weather Report Suite.. "like a song thats born to soar the sky"
Post #409 - February 27th, 2011, 11:36 amPost #409 - February 27th, 2011, 11:36 am
jimswside wrote:just delving into the WSP show from 2/10/2011 from Athens, GA. Set II out of Drums
Magnificent, soaring,transcendent, brilliant: Drums >> Fire on the Mountain..
Jimmy Herring seems to channel Jerry Garcia circa 1977-79 in this version. Jimmy captures the magic of Garcia, the last 5 minutes of drums have Jimmy noodling around Fire, which he then charges into with a guitar solo that trumpets what is to come, casting a mystical spell that left me with my mouth agape. If i was blindfolded and heard the last 5 minutes of Drums into the first 3 minute of Fire I would guess I was listening to some Dead from arguably the Dead and Jerry's prime, 1977-1979, some of my favorite years. This version embodied a lyric from the song Weather Report Suite.. "like a song thats born to soar the sky"
I cant wait to check out the rest of this show.
Link please?? I wanna give this a listen.
<edit> Found one. Sounds good. Love Dave School's funky bass. JB does a great job singing. Jimmy Herring's playing is Garciaesque. But WSP is no Grateful Dead.
Post #410 - February 27th, 2011, 11:39 amPost #410 - February 27th, 2011, 11:39 am
Seamus wrote:
jimswside wrote:just delving into the WSP show from 2/10/2011 from Athens, GA. Set II out of Drums
Magnificent, soaring,transcendent, brilliant: Drums >> Fire on the Mountain..
Jimmy Herring seems to channel Jerry Garcia circa 1977-79 in this version. Jimmy captures the magic of Garcia, the last 5 minutes of drums have Jimmy noodling around Fire, which he then charges into with a guitar solo that trumpets what is to come, casting a mystical spell that left me with my mouth agape. If i was blindfolded and heard the last 5 minutes of Drums into the first 3 minute of Fire I would guess I was listening to some Dead from arguably the Dead and Jerry's prime, 1977-1979, some of my favorite years. This version embodied a lyric from the song Weather Report Suite.. "like a song thats born to soar the sky"
I cant wait to check out the rest of this show.
Link please?? I wanna give this a listen.
my buddy burned me a cd of it. Ill ask him where he sourced it when I talk to him next.
Post #412 - February 27th, 2011, 12:12 pmPost #412 - February 27th, 2011, 12:12 pm
Seamus wrote:<edit> Found one. Sounds good. Love Dave School's funky bass. JB does a great job singing. Jimmy Herring's playing is Garciaesque. But WSP is no Grateful Dead.
nice link.
nah, not the dead, & no one can match Jerry, he was/is the best there ever was. for mind/time/space bending jams wsp is who I like to listen to nowdays(everyday)
this version definitely brought me back to that magical year of 1977.