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    Post #1 - November 12th, 2007, 6:13 pm
    Post #1 - November 12th, 2007, 6:13 pm Post #1 - November 12th, 2007, 6:13 pm
    There's a fine literary term (and rhetorical device) I remember from my second-year Latin class with Mr. Wells, known as the synecdoche. It has several slightly different applications (all of which I learned were marvelously employed by Cicero), but it basically means a part standing for a whole. Examples: when you say wheels and mean a car, when you say nice threads and are admiring someone's whole outfit, or--most famously--when you refer to an employee as a hired hand.

    I don't know why, but I was thinking there's some connection to restaurants in the sense that there are small parts or indicators which can generally tell you a lot about a larger whole. If a restaurant has menus which are corded and tasseled, for example, and that's all you know, this may start to conjure up all kinds of images of the overall place (banquettes? relish trays? a neon sign outside that flashes "cocktails"? shrimp de jonghe?). Or if I said the restaurant has no female servers, only older guy waiters, you might start to picture the place, the menu, and the customers. Or if all I said about a place is that they have diver scallops with sea foam, you're probably going to form a certain image.

    It's interesting to think of all the shorthands we use to communicate a sense of the kinds of restaurant we're talking about.
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  • Post #2 - November 12th, 2007, 6:33 pm
    Post #2 - November 12th, 2007, 6:33 pm Post #2 - November 12th, 2007, 6:33 pm
    I suppose the classic might be a "red sauce joint." Or the term "breakfast house" to describe Greek-owned places like Kappy's or Omega?

    How about menus all in lower care letters? Napkins in a stainless steel dispenser? A Bunn coffee-maker? Image
  • Post #3 - November 12th, 2007, 10:21 pm
    Post #3 - November 12th, 2007, 10:21 pm Post #3 - November 12th, 2007, 10:21 pm
    Olde School wrote:If a restaurant has menus which are corded and tasseled, for example, and that's all you know, this may start to conjure up all kinds of images of the overall place (banquettes? relish trays? a neon sign outside that flashes "cocktails"? shrimp de jonghe?).


    Sounds like a white tablecloth place.
    "Don't you ever underestimate the power of a female." Bootsy Collins
  • Post #4 - November 13th, 2007, 10:25 am
    Post #4 - November 13th, 2007, 10:25 am Post #4 - November 13th, 2007, 10:25 am
    I can never fully distinguish between synecdoche and metonym, even when I look them up. Can the OP help me with that, while I try to think of examples that would actually add to the thread?
    "Strange how potent cheap music is."
  • Post #5 - November 13th, 2007, 11:02 am
    Post #5 - November 13th, 2007, 11:02 am Post #5 - November 13th, 2007, 11:02 am
    I was going to write something out about the difference between synecdoche and metonymy, but the following from Wikipedia is actually pretty good:

    Synecdoche, where a specific part of something is taken to refer to the whole, is usually understood as a specific kind of metonymy. Sometimes, however, people make an absolute distinction between a metonymy and a synecdoche, treating metonymy as different from rather than inclusive of synecdoche. There is a similar problem with the usage of simile and metaphor.

    When the distinction is made, it is the following: when A is used to refer to B, it is a synecdoche if A is a part of B and a metonymy if A is commonly associated with B but not a part of it.

    Thus, "The White House said" would be a metonymy for the president and his staff, because the White House (A) is not part of the president or his staff (B) but is closely associated with them. On the other hand, asking for "All hands on deck" is a synecdoche because hands (A) are actually a part of the people (B) to whom they refer.

    Those who argue that synecdoche is a class of metonymy might point out that "hands" (A) are a metonym for workers (B) since hands are closely associated with the work the people do as well as a part of the people. That is, hands are associated with work through a metonymy at the same time as being associated with the people through synecdoche.

    An example of a single sentence that displays synecdoche, metaphor and metonymy would be: "Fifty keels ploughed the deep", where "keels" is the synecdoche as it takes a part (of the ship) as the whole (of the ship); "ploughed" is the metaphor as it substitutes the concept of ploughing a field for moving through the ocean; and "the deep" is the metonym, as "deepness" is an attribute associated with the ocean.
  • Post #6 - November 13th, 2007, 2:39 pm
    Post #6 - November 13th, 2007, 2:39 pm Post #6 - November 13th, 2007, 2:39 pm
    God I love this site! From food to esoteric literary theory, it's all good.
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  • Post #7 - November 13th, 2007, 3:46 pm
    Post #7 - November 13th, 2007, 3:46 pm Post #7 - November 13th, 2007, 3:46 pm
    Sounds like a white tablecloth place.


    ....as opposed to a hash house
    See, I'm an idea man, Chuck. I got ideas coming at me all day. Hey, I got it! Take LIVE tuna fish and FEED 'em mayonnaise!

    -Michael Keaton's character in Night Shift
  • Post #8 - November 14th, 2007, 1:29 pm
    Post #8 - November 14th, 2007, 1:29 pm Post #8 - November 14th, 2007, 1:29 pm
    And why neglect the obvious: greasy spoon.
    "Strange how potent cheap music is."

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