Poltically Correct Eaters, Scratch Ben and Jerry's

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060421/od_nm/benjerrys_dc

Yowch. You'd think they'd research names a lil' bit, yano? (That was entirely new information for me, as well.)

Gimme a break.

The first item on google if you ask for "Black & Tan" is from Guinness, a mixture of Harp Lager and Guinness Stout.

From their website:

Is there any meaning to the Black & Tan name other than its obvious reference to the colours of the beers?
Yes. The first known reference to the expression Black & Tan was in reference to a breed of beagles used as hunting dogs in Ireland.

The term was also used to refer to a a regiment of British soldiers recruited to serve in Ireland after the First World War. They had a reputation for being quite brutal and have been accused of many attrocities against the Irish in the years 1919-21.

Should I order a Black & Tan in Dublin?
Some have posted that this is not advisable, as you might stir up tempers. Steve Glover and others post that ordering a Black and Tan is no problem.

I've always been told that Guinness and Bass is a black and tan, and Guinness and Harp is a half and half?

Pete wrote:I've always been told that Guinness and Bass is a black and tan, and Guinness and Harp is a half and half?

That is the way I know it as well. Black & Tan and Guinness and Bass both have the Irish/English angle.

But since Harp is part of the Guinness group, it only makes sense that they refer to it as Guinness/Harp and not Guinness/Bass.

SSDD

FYI I just had this flavor today, not my favorite by Ben and Jerry's, but I do like it. There is a subtile stout flavor, and the stout ice cream is light and creamy. It isn't great by itself, but mixed with the chocolate whirl, it tastes good.

Now, anyone know where I can get Guinness ice cream in town?

I know that Homers in Wilmette used to make Guinness ice cream for Tommy Nevins. Not sure if they sell it retail though.

I just came back from New York where we had a beer shake at Schnek made with stout. That is an awful thing to do with ice cream and unconscionable to do it to beer.

I have to say that, as an Irishman [Irish-American], I do have a problem with the whole "Black and Tan" concept. We take it a bit personally.

Of course, I have more of a problem with the term "Paddy wagon" derived from "Hauling old Paddy, away."

Lucikly in Chicago, Paddy is now usually the driver rather than the cargo.
The proper term is "squadrol."

Answering further about our feelings about "Black & Tans":

Come Out Ye Black and Tans

I was born on a Dublin street where the Royal drums do beat
And the loving English feet they tramped all over us,
And each and every night when me father'd come home tight
He'd invite the neighbors outside with this chorus:

Oh, come out you black and tans,
Come out and fight me like a man
Show your wives how you won medals down in Flanders
Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away,
From the green and lovely lanes in Killashandra.

Come let me hear you tell
How you slammed the great Pernell,
When you fought them well and truly persecuted,
Where are the smears and jeers
That you bravely let us hear
When our heroes of sixteen were executed.

[Chorus]

Come tell us how you slew
Those brave Arabs two by two
Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows,
How you bravely slew each one
With your sixteen pounder gun
And you frightened them poor natives to their marrow.

[Chorus]

The day is coming fast
And the time is here at last,
When each yeoman will be cast aside before us,
And if there be a need
Sure my kids wil sing, "Godspeed!"
With a verse or two of Steven Beehan's chorus.