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    Post #1 - September 23rd, 2011, 6:36 am
    Post #1 - September 23rd, 2011, 6:36 am Post #1 - September 23rd, 2011, 6:36 am
    Drinking in Egypt and Oak Park

    When I landed in Egypt and met up with friend John Martin, a scholar of Islamic Studies at American University, Cairo, one of the first questions I had was, “So, can I get a beer in Egypt?”

    My question was a kind of an ironic joke because, of course, beer was born in this region, where thousands of years before Christ turned water to wine, the Egyptians, and before them the Sumerians, had sussed out how to make a relaxing and delicious beverage from bread that had been allowed to soak in water and then ferment.

    Drinking, of course, is prohibited to followers of Islam.

    The pre-Islamic mythology of the country tells that the god Osiris brought beer to the people, and that Sekhmet (the lioness goddess and my personal favorite in the pantheon) was pacified during a homicidal rage against humanity by quaffing tubs of red beer (pre-Islamic Egyptians used to have a drunken annual festival in honor of this event).

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    [Sorry, this damaged statue is the only picture I have of Sekhmet; many Egyptian artefacts were defaced by time, occupying armies, Christians, etc.]

    When Sekhmet had a few in her, she assumed the aspect of Hathor, who is frequently portrayed as a cow or a woman with cow ears. This more gentle demeanor was the result of drinking a few beers, and booze does that effect on some.

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    When we first moved to the People’s Republic of Oak Park in the 80’s, the only place one could have a drink with dinner was at La Majada. Now, our village has pretty much straight out bars, like the Velvet Rope (groovy) and Bar Louis (meh), though both these places have to serve what can technically be termed “food” because in Oak Park we seem to have difficulty accepting the concept of a place that offers only alcohol.

    On my last day in Cairo, Martin and I went to a one of the city’s few bars, El Horryia, located about a half mile from the Tahrir Square, site of the Arab Spring revolution, and the Cairo Museum, site of the most extensive and exquisite collection of Egyptian antiquities in the world. El Horryia seems almost as much of an oddity in Cairo, 2011, as La Majada was in Oak Park, 1985.

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    Basically, this bar offered Stella, an Egyptian beer, not to be confused with Stella Artois, and a good brew. It’s been produced for over 100 years. I heard that one could have harder stuff, but there were, predictably, no cocktails or mixed drinks available (unless you wanted to concoct your own highball with whisky and Coca-Cola).

    At his bar, covered in revolutionary graffiti, alcohol is served in one room and tea in another. The bar is split in half, one section offering alcohol and the other only tea. In both sections, you can see only men and women sitting together; only in the tea side, however, will there be women in hijab, traditional Muslim attire. In the bar section, a fully garbed Muslim woman would be too shocking. And the bar was apparently perceived as offensive enough as it is.

    The bar section of El Horryia had plywood board sheets inelegantly nailed up over the windows.

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    These barriers were not set up in the tea section of the building, which had clear windows open to the street.

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    In the bar section, however, the wooden barriers to outside world were put there, Martin explained to me, less to provide privacy to the drinkers and more to provide protection to pedestrians walking by.

    In Islam, according to Martin (and this may be open to interpretation), temptation comes not from within the individual but from forces outside the individual. By covering the windows at El Horryia, the owners were attempting to shield outsiders from what might be perceived as the heinous activity (drinking) that was taking place within, and so keep them from temptation that might compromise their integrity as Muslims.

    And so in Oak Park, we realize that what happens at places like Bar Louis and Velvet Rope is basically boozing, but we shield ourselves from that reality by demanding that they serve food and that they pretend to be restaurants. As I recall, when Poor Phil’s first opened, they met the food requirement by serving popcorn, which seems to be following the letter of the law if not exactly the full spirit behind the requirement.

    Nothing wrong with any of that, of course, and it’s all good…as long as I can get a cool one despite what the outside world may think. And re: the world, I think we'd all prefer Hathor to Sekhmet.
    "Don't you ever underestimate the power of a female." Bootsy Collins
  • Post #2 - September 23rd, 2011, 4:54 pm
    Post #2 - September 23rd, 2011, 4:54 pm Post #2 - September 23rd, 2011, 4:54 pm
    Fantastic post. I studied at AUC last summer, after an aborted attempt at a semester abroad in January (the scene around Horreya was a little more hectic then!). Horreya is a bizarre place at night, like a school cafeteria. The tab is kept by tallying up the pile of empty bottles left on their tables, which can get pretty risky pretty quick with a large group of college students! Outside of Cairo, Karnak temple was amazing, Luxor was easily one of the best trips of my life. It's a great time to visit Egypt now, the merchants are a little more desperate but there are hardly any tourists, even the great pyramids only had about 75 visitors the couple times I saw it.
  • Post #3 - September 25th, 2011, 2:48 pm
    Post #3 - September 25th, 2011, 2:48 pm Post #3 - September 25th, 2011, 2:48 pm
    Interesting article, I am not sure if alcohol is prohibited in Islam, as much being high due to any product whether hashish or beer is looked down upon as not being faithful. Thus one can drink alcohol I presume as long as it is not the reason that caused one to become high. I assume Turks in Turkey use this logic, not only do they drink alcohol, beer, wine, gin, raki, list goes on, they also produce quality stuff, although more of an urban phenomena. Turkey is not only predominantly Muslim, it is one of the biggest Muslim countries in the world in fact.
  • Post #4 - September 27th, 2011, 5:41 pm
    Post #4 - September 27th, 2011, 5:41 pm Post #4 - September 27th, 2011, 5:41 pm
    Even the most liberal scholarship on Islamic jurisprudence holds that alcohol is banned. Intoxicating substances are a no-no as well.

    However, I'm a Muslim, and I drink. Many others do as well. Many, many, more don't (even in Turkey).

    Can't win without a little sin I always say. Or a lot of sin.

    A funny thing - drinking alcohol makes me feel good. Eating pork, which is also banned, usually makes me feel bad.
    "By the fig, the olive..." Surat Al-Teen, Mecca 95:1"
  • Post #5 - September 27th, 2011, 5:44 pm
    Post #5 - September 27th, 2011, 5:44 pm Post #5 - September 27th, 2011, 5:44 pm
    I forgot to add: Hurreya is probably my favorite place to have a beer, anywhere.

    David,

    You never mentioned whether you enjoyed your ice cold Stella. Did you have a side of pickled lupini beans (tirmus)? Really, a match made in heaven, or firdaus, as it may be.
    "By the fig, the olive..." Surat Al-Teen, Mecca 95:1"
  • Post #6 - September 27th, 2011, 6:56 pm
    Post #6 - September 27th, 2011, 6:56 pm Post #6 - September 27th, 2011, 6:56 pm
    Habibi wrote:I forgot to add: Hurreya is probably my favorite place to have a beer, anywhere.

    David,

    You never mentioned whether you enjoyed your ice cold Stella. Did you have a side of pickled lupini beans (tirmus)? Really, a match made in heaven, or firdaus, as it may be.


    Yes, I did enjoy the Stella, and it was indeed very cold. Not sure if this is how it's always done, but the bar guy (owner?) periodically walked around the place with an armful of beers. If you wanted one, a nod got it.

    Throughout most of the trip, I drank Sakkara, which I also like, though I think Stella is probably better. Also had some Egyptian wine (Omar Khayyam), which was drinkable, not great, but by no means bad.

    Did not have lupinis and did not even see them anywhere, though I would certainly have eaten them if they'd been offered.
    "Don't you ever underestimate the power of a female." Bootsy Collins
  • Post #7 - September 28th, 2011, 8:58 am
    Post #7 - September 28th, 2011, 8:58 am Post #7 - September 28th, 2011, 8:58 am
    I must mention two other drinks we had in Cairo.

    Cane juice seems to be produced by basically just crushing sugar cane and perhaps adding a little water. Here's our driver, Makmud, carrying a platter of the stuff out to us. It was pleasant, not overly sweet, refreshing.

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    At a small juice bar, Muhammed Ali, we had some licorice juice that started watery but ended with a slightly herbal, bitter and pleasant taste. This seemed like the sort of beverage you'd almost have to drink by itself; it had so much personality (at least so it seemed on first sips) that it's hard to imagine drinking it with anything.

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    "Don't you ever underestimate the power of a female." Bootsy Collins
  • Post #8 - September 28th, 2011, 9:31 am
    Post #8 - September 28th, 2011, 9:31 am Post #8 - September 28th, 2011, 9:31 am
    Fresh sugar cane juice, or qassab/'assab is one of the great pleasures of Egyptian street beverages. Taken first thing in the morning, it has a strong alertive effect. You can get it fresh in Chicago at Fresh Farms on Devon.

    David,

    Are you sure the second beverage was licorice (araqsoos)? Far more common, and based on the taste profile and picture, is karkaday a.k.a. hibiscus a.k.a. agua jamaica.
    "By the fig, the olive..." Surat Al-Teen, Mecca 95:1"
  • Post #9 - September 28th, 2011, 9:47 am
    Post #9 - September 28th, 2011, 9:47 am Post #9 - September 28th, 2011, 9:47 am
    Forgot to mention: the lemonade ain't bad either.

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    "By the fig, the olive..." Surat Al-Teen, Mecca 95:1"
  • Post #10 - September 28th, 2011, 9:51 am
    Post #10 - September 28th, 2011, 9:51 am Post #10 - September 28th, 2011, 9:51 am
    Habibi wrote:Fresh sugar cane juice, or qassab/'assab is one of the great pleasures of Egyptian street beverages. Taken first thing in the morning, it has a strong alertive effect. You can get it fresh in Chicago at Fresh Farms on Devon.

    David,

    Are you sure the second beverage was licorice (araqsoos)? Far more common, and based on the taste profile and picture, is karkaday a.k.a. hibiscus a.k.a. agua jamaica.


    It was licorice: it was black and tasted like...licorice. I know hibiscus pretty well (made a lot of it last summer), and this wasn't it. There were a few other interesting drinks at this stand:

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    "Don't you ever underestimate the power of a female." Bootsy Collins
  • Post #11 - September 28th, 2011, 10:05 am
    Post #11 - September 28th, 2011, 10:05 am Post #11 - September 28th, 2011, 10:05 am
    I stand corrected.

    BTW, this is really just a ploy to get you to keep posting pictures.
    "By the fig, the olive..." Surat Al-Teen, Mecca 95:1"
  • Post #12 - September 28th, 2011, 10:13 am
    Post #12 - September 28th, 2011, 10:13 am Post #12 - September 28th, 2011, 10:13 am
    Habibi wrote:I stand corrected.

    BTW, this is really just a ploy to get you to keep posting pictures.


    It's working...and I have a load more pix.

    I would have liked to have gone to that juice stand again as there are many flavors on there that I'd like to try (e.g., carob, which I believe is kind of an Egyptian thing).
    "Don't you ever underestimate the power of a female." Bootsy Collins

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