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    Post #1 - August 23rd, 2011, 10:16 am
    Post #1 - August 23rd, 2011, 10:16 am Post #1 - August 23rd, 2011, 10:16 am
    From Laboratory Equipment News:

    In the 15th century, when Europeans first began moving people and goods across the Atlantic, a microscopic stowaway somehow made its way to the caves and monasteries of Bavaria.

    The stowaway, a yeast that may have been transported from a distant shore on a piece of wood or in the stomach of a fruit fly, was destined for great things. In the dank caves and monastery cellars where 15th century brewmeisters stored their product, the newly arrived yeast fused with a distant relative, the domesticated yeast used for millennia to make leavened bread and ferment wine and ale. The resulting hybrid—representing a marriage of species as evolutionarily separated as humans and chickens—would give us lager, the clear, cold-fermented beer first brewed by 15th century Bavarians and that today is among the most popular—if not the most popular—alcoholic beverage in the world.

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  • Post #2 - August 23rd, 2011, 11:57 am
    Post #2 - August 23rd, 2011, 11:57 am Post #2 - August 23rd, 2011, 11:57 am
    The resulting hybrid—representing a marriage of species as evolutionarily separated as humans and chickens —would give us lager,
    That comparison is really annoying.
    However, the rest of the article is very interesting . The original article, is more detailed and definitely more clear and convincing about what is thought to have happened.
    doi: 10.1073/pnas.1105430108

    Thank you for posting. :)
  • Post #3 - August 23rd, 2011, 1:04 pm
    Post #3 - August 23rd, 2011, 1:04 pm Post #3 - August 23rd, 2011, 1:04 pm
    My biggest beef with the article that I read was that it could result in more efficient yeast strains and better beer. To assume that efficiency yields a better product is baloney, particularly when discussing beer.
  • Post #4 - August 26th, 2011, 11:48 am
    Post #4 - August 26th, 2011, 11:48 am Post #4 - August 26th, 2011, 11:48 am

    This is a fascinating article summarizing the important recent work that solved a longstanding puzzle in microbial evolution—how did lager yeast arise? For about 30 years it has been known that the genome of the yeast used for lager's cold fermentation is a hybrid of standard warm-fermenting ale yeast and another yeast. The previously unknown partner—christened Saccharomyces eubayanus—has now been found, in Patagonia of all places.

    The article in Laboratory Equipment News was actually written by Terry Devitt, a longtime science writer now affiliated with University of Wisconsin-Madison, where one of the lead authors is now employed. Although UW-M is mentioned as a source at the end of the article it's a shame Laboratory Equipment News didn't see fit to identify the author or provide a link to the original.

    theskinnyduck wrote:doi: 10.1073/pnas.1105430108

    Here's a link to the original article in case anyone is interested in looking at it.

    NobleSquirrel wrote:My biggest beef with the article that I read was that it could result in more efficient yeast strains and better beer. To assume that efficiency yields a better product is baloney, particularly when discussing beer.

    Are you opposed to lager yeast, then, which is far more efficient than ale yeast at fermenting in colder temperatures? I tend to prefer ales but also admire lagers and the little guys who do the work of fermenting it. The more brewing yeasts we have, the better.

    Some might be interested to know of the immediate plans the discoverers of S eubayanus have for the new yeast. They are collaborating with an Argentine brewery to make (commercial?) beer using the prototype strain. Although indigenous peoples have been making fermented beverages using the beech galls where the yeast is found, nobody has any idea what barley malt fermented with S eubayanus would taste like. Next they will hybridize S eubayanus with standard ale yeast to recreate the proto-lager yeast as it may have existed in the 16th century before the genomic rearrangements occurred to give us today's more efficient lager yeast. I find these undertakings—at the unlikely intersection of genetics, history and brewing—tremendously interesting.

    Edited to add a stable link to the PNAS article reporting the original research.
    Last edited by Rene G on March 1st, 2012, 10:31 am, edited 1 time in total.
  • Post #5 - August 26th, 2011, 11:58 am
    Post #5 - August 26th, 2011, 11:58 am Post #5 - August 26th, 2011, 11:58 am
    Rene G wrote: I find these undertakings—at the unlikely intersection of genetics, history and brewing—tremendously interesting.


    I agree with tremendously interesting, but why unlikely? Brewing=microbiology. In understanding microbiology, genetics and molecular biology are crucial.
  • Post #6 - August 26th, 2011, 12:00 pm
    Post #6 - August 26th, 2011, 12:00 pm Post #6 - August 26th, 2011, 12:00 pm
    Rene G wrote:
    NobleSquirrel wrote:My biggest beef with the article that I read was that it could result in more efficient yeast strains and better beer. To assume that efficiency yields a better product is baloney, particularly when discussing beer.

    Are you opposed to lager yeast, then, which is far more efficient than ale yeast at fermenting in colder temperatures? I tend to prefer ales but also admire lagers and the little guys who do the work of fermenting it. The more brewing yeasts we have, the better.


    I think it is worth pointing out that "efficiency" in this context doesn't mean "make great beer using cheaper ingredients" or something like that. The homebrewers and biologists on this forum should probably take it from here. But my understanding is that the yeast's efficiency is a measure of how much of the malt sugar is converted to ethanol and carbon dioxide.
  • Post #7 - August 26th, 2011, 2:22 pm
    Post #7 - August 26th, 2011, 2:22 pm Post #7 - August 26th, 2011, 2:22 pm
    Darren72 wrote:
    Rene G wrote:
    NobleSquirrel wrote:My biggest beef with the article that I read was that it could result in more efficient yeast strains and better beer. To assume that efficiency yields a better product is baloney, particularly when discussing beer.

    Are you opposed to lager yeast, then, which is far more efficient than ale yeast at fermenting in colder temperatures? I tend to prefer ales but also admire lagers and the little guys who do the work of fermenting it. The more brewing yeasts we have, the better.


    I think it is worth pointing out that "efficiency" in this context doesn't mean "make great beer using cheaper ingredients" or something like that. The homebrewers and biologists on this forum should probably take it from here. But my understanding is that the yeast's efficiency is a measure of how much of the malt sugar is converted to ethanol and carbon dioxide.


    Thats the point the article makes, the changes that occurred after the fusion allowed for more efficient nutrient transport and use pathways.That doesnt mean better, but also doesnt mean worse, beer. Also the discussion section of the article mentions improving yeast for brewing, not specifically speeding up the process.

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