KSeecs wrote:I think many, myself included, would say Goose Island beers in general compare favorably to Samuel Smith's offerings.
I can not comment on beer tastes in the U.K. but I do understand that a lot of the craft beer in the U.K. is very local and focuses on real cask ales that are never bottled. I suppose just like here in the U.S. only a small percentage of people take advantage of the amazing beers available from smaller local and regional brewers. Though I am surprised that Budweiser would be so prevalent.
I suppose with the proximity and phrasing, it looked as if I was trying to draw a distinction between Sam Smith's and Goose; I wasn't -- just trying to make the larger point that a whole lot of good beer goes largely unnoticed in Britain, particularly by the younger generation. The Sam Smith pubs we frequented generally were great for two things outside of the quality of the beer -- low prices (generally under £2 a pint) and the setting (generally more traditional decor and settings, with less or none of the loud music and video-poker and other gaming machines that are ubiquitous at other pubs). I also greatly appreciate and endorse the single brewery pub concept (probably in some sort of abstract romantic sense of that being good because it's the way it used to be -- which, come to think of it, probably also explains my preference for the more traditional decor).
As to the quality of Sam Smith's versus Goose, I suppose the best comparison is bottles to bottles or draft to draft. I haven't had a Sam Smith bottle in years outside of the occasional Winter Welcome, but recall preferring the Sam Smith Oatmeal Stout to the Goose version. Can't comment on Goose IPA v. Sam Smith India Ale, the breweries' respective nut browns, etc. My preference in Sam Smith pubs was for the cask ales that are not available here either as draft (casks/kegs) or bottles. From what I understand, though, fewer of the Sam Smith pubs are still carrying casks -- lots more kegs now, apparently.
As to the Budweiser thing, I admit to great surprise as well. According to
A-B's own claims, Budweiser is the "best selling premium packed lager in UK bars, pubs and restaurants" (whatever "premium packed lager" means). When I was in London in the mid-90's as a student, it seemed like lots of the younger set preferred lagers to other beers, with Grolsch, Stella Artois and Carling among the most popular. When I was back five or six years ago working, the lager preference still seemed strong and it seemed to me that Budweiser was really all over the place. Not sure whether that is a matter of true trend or just perception.