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  • Post #151 - July 18th, 2008, 10:43 am
    Post #151 - July 18th, 2008, 10:43 am Post #151 - July 18th, 2008, 10:43 am
    That's a lot of bacon and smoking. Very impressive. Let us know how those smoked and fried skins turn out.
  • Post #152 - July 22nd, 2008, 7:01 am
    Post #152 - July 22nd, 2008, 7:01 am Post #152 - July 22nd, 2008, 7:01 am
    For anybody smoking their bacon on a WSM, what lower vent setting are you using to keep the temp low enough?

    At Peoria last Thursday, their belly section was looking a little rough, but the "rib belly" section had a few nice pieces.
  • Post #153 - July 23rd, 2008, 3:26 pm
    Post #153 - July 23rd, 2008, 3:26 pm Post #153 - July 23rd, 2008, 3:26 pm
    Top dome vents wide open. Bottem vents closed 1/2 way.
  • Post #154 - July 23rd, 2008, 4:08 pm
    Post #154 - July 23rd, 2008, 4:08 pm Post #154 - July 23rd, 2008, 4:08 pm
    The main point is that you don't build a full-size fire. A small fire, which you'll have to add to every hour or so, should allow you to keep upper chamber temp in the 150F range.
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  • Post #155 - July 23rd, 2008, 6:27 pm
    Post #155 - July 23rd, 2008, 6:27 pm Post #155 - July 23rd, 2008, 6:27 pm
    Apologies for all of the questions, So by small fire, are we talking 1/2 size as the KISS method or just one chimney with wood atop?

    I just wrapped up step 3 of the 5 step WSM course and feel ok, controlling temps, but 150 is something serious.
  • Post #156 - July 23rd, 2008, 7:07 pm
    Post #156 - July 23rd, 2008, 7:07 pm Post #156 - July 23rd, 2008, 7:07 pm
    I would say half or even less. As small as you can build and keep going for an hour, basically. Then throw some more on, let it come back up, do that a couple of times with plenty of chips each time and you'll have good smoky flavor without roasting the belly all the way through. I wouldn't worry about doing it just right, there's a lot of wiggle room here, you're just trying to hit somewhere well below that normal 225F. The normal 5-Step rules, which are oriented to building a 225F fire that lasts for five hours, don't apply.
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  • Post #157 - July 24th, 2008, 9:22 am
    Post #157 - July 24th, 2008, 9:22 am Post #157 - July 24th, 2008, 9:22 am
    Question on the pink salt, and whether or not to use it. I did a wet cure last year following instructions on this website and had pretty successful results, though probably over smoked/roasted the bellies. Does the pink salt change the taste much? Is it considered a natural product? I really don't know much about it which is why I'm asking. Seems all the bacon at Whole Foods and other stores like that offer it nitrate-free, which makes me wonder what is in it it thats not very good for you?

    -Joel
  • Post #158 - July 31st, 2008, 2:44 pm
    Post #158 - July 31st, 2008, 2:44 pm Post #158 - July 31st, 2008, 2:44 pm
    Now you, too, can be immortalized in print forever and ever. There's going to be a book about bacon and bacon-related tales.

    http://www.baconunwrapped.com/2008/07/b ... -book.html
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love

    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach

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  • Post #159 - August 7th, 2008, 10:44 am
    Post #159 - August 7th, 2008, 10:44 am Post #159 - August 7th, 2008, 10:44 am
    Now when someone offers a full breakfast, and you say, "Naw, I'll just have some toast," here's an easy way to compromise:

    http://jessthomson.wordpress.com/2008/0 ... s-or-none/

    Or if you're in the Capitol Hill area, you can get it on a Kobe burger:

    http://www.skilletstreetfood.com/
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love

    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach

    I write fiction. You can find me—and some stories—on Facebook, Twitter and my website.
  • Post #160 - August 20th, 2008, 11:21 am
    Post #160 - August 20th, 2008, 11:21 am Post #160 - August 20th, 2008, 11:21 am
    I have a taste for something meaty. No, sweet. No...

    http://www.stupid.com/fun/BFJB.html
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love

    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach

    I write fiction. You can find me—and some stories—on Facebook, Twitter and my website.
  • Post #161 - October 9th, 2008, 9:44 am
    Post #161 - October 9th, 2008, 9:44 am Post #161 - October 9th, 2008, 9:44 am
    After getting fed up with Peoria belly selection, I am looking for a new source. In the city preferably.

    From what I have read, Argyle is a possible source and any chance to get belly, then Sun Wah would be great.
  • Post #162 - October 9th, 2008, 10:00 am
    Post #162 - October 9th, 2008, 10:00 am Post #162 - October 9th, 2008, 10:00 am
    As is probably noted in this thread somewhere, I found better bellies at Golden Pacific, 5353 N. Broadway.

    Another option would be to order ahead for pickup with a pork producer at one of the farmer's markets, such as Sky Full of Bacon star Dennis Wettstein at Oak Park. I'm not sure if anyone offers pork at Green City, I'm not thinking of one.
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  • Post #163 - October 9th, 2008, 12:57 pm
    Post #163 - October 9th, 2008, 12:57 pm Post #163 - October 9th, 2008, 12:57 pm
    Mike G wrote:I'm not sure if anyone offers pork at Green City, I'm not thinking of one.

    Twin Oaks Meats and Liberty Family Farm both offer pork at Green City.
  • Post #164 - October 14th, 2008, 11:04 am
    Post #164 - October 14th, 2008, 11:04 am Post #164 - October 14th, 2008, 11:04 am
    Looks like we're being upstaged:
    http://www.bacontalk.com/?gclid=CMuFidW ... xwod0xL1zA
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love

    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach

    I write fiction. You can find me—and some stories—on Facebook, Twitter and my website.
  • Post #165 - October 15th, 2008, 11:17 am
    Post #165 - October 15th, 2008, 11:17 am Post #165 - October 15th, 2008, 11:17 am
    No more brown-bagging it!
    http://www.stupid.com/fun/BALB.html
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love

    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach

    I write fiction. You can find me—and some stories—on Facebook, Twitter and my website.
  • Post #166 - October 20th, 2008, 9:27 pm
    Post #166 - October 20th, 2008, 9:27 pm Post #166 - October 20th, 2008, 9:27 pm
    I found some nice belly while visiting Appleton, WI this weekend. After cutting the belly in two, the bellies are being cured for pancetta and bacon.

    Image
  • Post #167 - January 5th, 2009, 9:58 am
    Post #167 - January 5th, 2009, 9:58 am Post #167 - January 5th, 2009, 9:58 am
    After smoking another batch of bacon, I am tiring of the slicing process. I am struggling getting slices thin enough to acheive the crispyness that I desire. Anyone know of a good, relatively inexpensive meat slicer and/or had any experiences convincing a deli/butcher shop to slice for you?
  • Post #168 - January 5th, 2009, 10:12 am
    Post #168 - January 5th, 2009, 10:12 am Post #168 - January 5th, 2009, 10:12 am
    I agree slicing is the drudge work in making bacon, no question. The problem is not only that I've been warned against the less expensive consumer-grade slicers by G Wiv (who says the opinion is fairly negative on bbq boards), but even if you thought they were sturdy enough-- and the ones at places like Cabela's look plenty solid-- the fact remains that they're just not big enough for a whole belly. You'd have to slice from one end until you got the other end down to a width of 9" or so anyway.

    I think there are really only the two options, unless you're so close with your butcher that they're willing to let you bring in outside product to slice it while costing them the sale of the same item: find a used commercial slicer relatively cheap, which is still a several hundred dollar deal, or slice it yourself. My secrets for making the latter more tolerable are: go get yourself a seriously huge slicing/carving knife, I got one at Northwestern Cutlery for maybe $20, and chill the bacon down to near freezing before cutting. The colder it is (short of turning solid), the less floppy it is and the more you can easily cut straight and clean. I usually do two at a time, and so one is in the freezer, I cut a couple of dozen slices, then back in the freezer while I cut the other for a while.
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  • Post #169 - January 5th, 2009, 10:16 am
    Post #169 - January 5th, 2009, 10:16 am Post #169 - January 5th, 2009, 10:16 am
    Good tips, Mike. I am driving past NW Cutlery this afternoon, I'll have to drop by to pick up a scimitar.
  • Post #170 - January 5th, 2009, 7:35 pm
    Post #170 - January 5th, 2009, 7:35 pm Post #170 - January 5th, 2009, 7:35 pm
    Stopped a picked up a slicer darned near the size of a sword. If I were in New York in the late eighties when they were filming Crocodile Dundee, I could easily tell Paul Hogan that mine, in fact, was a real knife.
    Image
    In any regard, it worked wonders on the slightly frozen bacon. 6 dozen slices and about a pound for lardons and non-sliced applications.
    Image
  • Post #171 - January 5th, 2009, 9:03 pm
    Post #171 - January 5th, 2009, 9:03 pm Post #171 - January 5th, 2009, 9:03 pm
    Oh man, does that ever look GOOD! And nice job slicing: thin enough, but, more importantly, v e r y uniform. Bien fait!

    Geo
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  • Post #172 - March 10th, 2009, 9:37 am
    Post #172 - March 10th, 2009, 9:37 am Post #172 - March 10th, 2009, 9:37 am
    Hi,

    I found a nice sized pork belly at Peoria Packing over the weekend. I am going to try my 2nd attempt at home cured and smoked bacon this week. Last time I left the skin on and removed it after the smoke. Is there any benefit, or any easy way for that matter, in removing the skin before smoking it?

    Thanks,
    joelM
  • Post #173 - March 10th, 2009, 9:46 am
    Post #173 - March 10th, 2009, 9:46 am Post #173 - March 10th, 2009, 9:46 am
    I think it's a pain either way, but the fat might be of a slightly more buttery consistency before it's been heated and condensed/firmed up.

    By the way, you can watch a professional (Brian Huston of The Publican) doing it starting at about 13:50 in this Sky Full of Bacon.
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  • Post #174 - April 2nd, 2009, 12:50 pm
    Post #174 - April 2nd, 2009, 12:50 pm Post #174 - April 2nd, 2009, 12:50 pm
    Please forgive if this has been asked and answered already. I'm very eager to make my own bacon and hope to have it ready for Easter breakfast, so I have to work quickly.

    Would it be okay to start with frozen pork belly? Paulina Market says they have it available frozen all of the time in 1lb and 2lb chunks. In another blog I read, someone started with frozen and had no problem at all.

    I'd rather not use the saltpeter. I don't need my bacon to be pink, and would rather experiment with some other flavors. Would starting with frozen pork belly make any difference at all in regards to using saltpeter?

    Thanks! I promise I'll read through the rest of the posts tonight.
    Karen
  • Post #175 - April 2nd, 2009, 1:01 pm
    Post #175 - April 2nd, 2009, 1:01 pm Post #175 - April 2nd, 2009, 1:01 pm
    It should thaw in the fridge within a day or so as it cures, I would think.

    Just make sure you use enough regular salt to cure, then.

    You could also get a fresh belly at Golden Pacific market up on Broadway near Argyle.
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  • Post #176 - April 2nd, 2009, 1:41 pm
    Post #176 - April 2nd, 2009, 1:41 pm Post #176 - April 2nd, 2009, 1:41 pm
    Yay! I have to say that I'm glad you were the first to reply. You became my bacon-making hero over the pages I did read.

    Thanks for the other lead on fresh belly. I might do that instead.
    Karen
  • Post #177 - April 4th, 2009, 7:26 am
    Post #177 - April 4th, 2009, 7:26 am Post #177 - April 4th, 2009, 7:26 am
    Does anyone else get excited when this thread bounces back to the top hoping that there will be some new pictures?

    Makes me drool.
  • Post #178 - April 4th, 2009, 7:47 am
    Post #178 - April 4th, 2009, 7:47 am Post #178 - April 4th, 2009, 7:47 am
    There's always coppa. (Which even has an otherwise unseen bacon photo in it...)
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  • Post #179 - April 4th, 2009, 10:02 am
    Post #179 - April 4th, 2009, 10:02 am Post #179 - April 4th, 2009, 10:02 am
    Wow. Without even knowing that this thread existed, I bought a belly at Peoria Packing last weekend, ran into Evanston to the Spice House for some pink salt, and my bacons are curing and patiently waiting for the smoke I will administer to them tomorrow.

    I was poking around looking for some tips on how to do it on my WSM, and came upon this thread, which I just read all the way through.

    I should know by now to look in LTH forum BEFORE googling.

    Thanks, Mike, for documenting your process and all the good advice and info that's yielded. I'll post soon about how my bacon turned out, and I've now made a note of your contact in Iowa for those amazing-looking bellies.
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  • Post #180 - May 13th, 2009, 2:06 pm
    Post #180 - May 13th, 2009, 2:06 pm Post #180 - May 13th, 2009, 2:06 pm
    A friend of mine just told me that the best bacon was made from the hog jowl. I never heard of this. Does anyone have any experience of hog jowl? :mrgreen:

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