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    Post #1 - November 25th, 2009, 7:20 pm
    Post #1 - November 25th, 2009, 7:20 pm Post #1 - November 25th, 2009, 7:20 pm
    My favorite pizza of all time is long gone. It was served up by Basta Pasta in Edison Park. Basta Pasta closed a few years ago but it stopped making this version a few years prior to closing (probably the reason they are now closed!)

    This particular pizza was thin, very crispy and served with sausage and fresh tomatoes. The best part of this pizza was that the pizza rested on loose corn meal (I think). Maybe they also put some corn meal in the dough because the crust had a bit of a corn taste enhancing the flour taste. Does anyone else remember this pizza? Is there anything like it in Chicago? Although I live near Edison Park, I am willing to travel far and wide for something that comes close to duplicating this near-nirvana experience.

    Does anyone know the secret of this pizza?

    Where can I find something close?

    Does anyone know the owners of the place so I can get their recipe, rent a commercial oven and have someone make it again?
  • Post #2 - November 25th, 2009, 8:07 pm
    Post #2 - November 25th, 2009, 8:07 pm Post #2 - November 25th, 2009, 8:07 pm
    Barnaby's pizza is well-known for its cornmeal crust. I frequent the Niles location, which I think is right up there with the best thin-crust in the Chicago area.

    Barnaby's Family Inn
    7950 N Caldwell Ave
    Niles, IL 60714-3323
    (847) 967-8600
    http://edzos.com/
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  • Post #3 - November 26th, 2009, 2:07 am
    Post #3 - November 26th, 2009, 2:07 am Post #3 - November 26th, 2009, 2:07 am
    Try Moretti's
  • Post #4 - November 26th, 2009, 5:52 am
    Post #4 - November 26th, 2009, 5:52 am Post #4 - November 26th, 2009, 5:52 am
    Doesn't Pizano's also use cornmeal in the crust?
    trpt2345
  • Post #5 - November 26th, 2009, 9:53 am
    Post #5 - November 26th, 2009, 9:53 am Post #5 - November 26th, 2009, 9:53 am
    Moretti's pizza is pretty good but I don't believe they use corn meal in the crust.

    For a great thin corn meal crust pizza, I'd recommend Barnaby's.
  • Post #6 - November 26th, 2009, 10:50 am
    Post #6 - November 26th, 2009, 10:50 am Post #6 - November 26th, 2009, 10:50 am
    Yeah, Seamus is correct. We order Moretti's quite often and it's cornmeal-less. I do believe Pizano's does use cornmeal, but not to the extent that Barnaby's does.
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  • Post #7 - November 26th, 2009, 12:01 pm
    Post #7 - November 26th, 2009, 12:01 pm Post #7 - November 26th, 2009, 12:01 pm
    elakin wrote:Barnaby's pizza is well-known for its cornmeal crust. I frequent the Niles location, which I think is right up there with the best thin-crust in the Chicago area.

    Barnaby's Family Inn
    7950 N Caldwell Ave
    Niles, IL 60714-3323
    (847) 967-8600

    I find the Northbrook location to be just as good and often better than Niles and the cornmeal is very much a part of their pizzas, too. There's more discussion about Barnaby's here.

    You definitely can't go wrong at Pizano's, either but I'm not 100% sure they use cornmeal.

    =R=

    Barnaby's Family Inn - Northbrook
    960 Skokie Blvd
    Northbrook, IL 60062-4005
    (847) 498-3900

    Pizano's Pizza & Pasta - Glenview (there are 2 other locations, as well)
    1808 Waukegan Rd
    Glenview, IL 60025-2112
    (847) 486-1777
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  • Post #8 - November 26th, 2009, 7:33 pm
    Post #8 - November 26th, 2009, 7:33 pm Post #8 - November 26th, 2009, 7:33 pm
    You definitely can't go wrong at Pizano's, either but I'm not 100% sure they use cornmeal.


    No cornmeal, I don't know the exact recipe but I do the ordering and there's no cornmeal to be found.
  • Post #9 - November 27th, 2009, 9:17 am
    Post #9 - November 27th, 2009, 9:17 am Post #9 - November 27th, 2009, 9:17 am
    Q's crust is coated with cornmeal too.
  • Post #10 - November 27th, 2009, 11:14 am
    Post #10 - November 27th, 2009, 11:14 am Post #10 - November 27th, 2009, 11:14 am
    try francesca's [i believe their are 18 of them around chicago] they have a light dusting of cormeal on the bottom.
  • Post #11 - November 28th, 2009, 5:01 pm
    Post #11 - November 28th, 2009, 5:01 pm Post #11 - November 28th, 2009, 5:01 pm
    I believe cornmeal is used just to help transfer the pizza from th pizza peel into the oven. I do this when i make Pizza. I don't believe most places would add it to the dough.
  • Post #12 - November 28th, 2009, 9:59 pm
    Post #12 - November 28th, 2009, 9:59 pm Post #12 - November 28th, 2009, 9:59 pm
    gp60004 wrote:I believe cornmeal is used just to help transfer the pizza from th pizza peel into the oven. I do this when i make Pizza. I don't believe most places would add it to the dough.

    I agree. A lot of times when you think it's cornmeal in the dough, it's actually semolina flour -- even at places that use cornmeal primarily to transfer the pies from peel to oven.

    =R=
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  • Post #13 - November 29th, 2009, 6:59 pm
    Post #13 - November 29th, 2009, 6:59 pm Post #13 - November 29th, 2009, 6:59 pm
    Thanks for the tip on Baranby's. I've passed this place a million times but have never stopped because the outside looks old and tired. I figured that since it's been around for a long time, that was their approach to making pizzas.

    I have tried Moretti's and while the pizza is good, it doesn't approach that next level of greatness.
  • Post #14 - November 30th, 2009, 12:48 pm
    Post #14 - November 30th, 2009, 12:48 pm Post #14 - November 30th, 2009, 12:48 pm
    ronnie_suburban wrote:
    elakin wrote:Barnaby's pizza is well-known for its cornmeal crust. I frequent the Niles location, which I think is right up there with the best thin-crust in the Chicago area.

    Barnaby's Family Inn
    7950 N Caldwell Ave
    Niles, IL 60714-3323
    (847) 967-8600

    I find the Northbrook location to be just as good and often better than Niles and the cornmeal is very much a part of their pizzas, too. There's more discussion about Barnaby's here.

    You definitely can't go wrong at Pizano's, either but I'm not 100% sure they use cornmeal.

    =R=

    Barnaby's Family Inn - Northbrook
    960 Skokie Blvd
    Northbrook, IL 60062-4005
    (847) 498-3900


    Sorry Eddie, I agree with Ronnie, Barnaby's of Northbrook wins over Niles for me too. :wink: I still think that Barnaby's is one of the best thin crust pizzas anywhere. I've had Barnaby's elsewhere that are not only nothing like the Northbrook (or Niles) recipes, but downright horrible pizza. So I can see why Barnaby's gets a bad rap from the other locations, or the many that closed. I don't remember Pizano's having cornmeal on the bottom.

    Bottom of Barnaby's
    Image

    Interesting thing about Q's Pizza, their cornmeal is a less coarse version than Barnaby's. I think Bill's Pizza in Mundelein has a little cornmeal on theirs as well.

    Bill's Pizza and Pub
    624 Lake St (US 45)
    Mundelein IL
    (847) 566-5380

    And if you want to take a little ride, Wells Brothers Restaurant in Racine is another paper thin, cornmeal bottom beauty.

    Bottom of Wells Brothers (courtesy of DaBeef)
    Image

    Wells Brothers Restaurant
    2148 Mead St
    Racine, WI 53403
    (262) 632-4408
  • Post #15 - November 30th, 2009, 8:41 pm
    Post #15 - November 30th, 2009, 8:41 pm Post #15 - November 30th, 2009, 8:41 pm
    Thanks for the pics of the pizza bottoms. Looks like a trip to Racine is in my future. The bottom of that crust looks just like that of Basta Pasta's!
  • Post #16 - November 30th, 2009, 8:50 pm
    Post #16 - November 30th, 2009, 8:50 pm Post #16 - November 30th, 2009, 8:50 pm
    Barnaby's has long been my favorite thin crust pizza... grew up going to the Northbrook location. Haven't been there in years, but introduced my wife to Barnaby's in Niles a couple years ago.

    For other corn meal crusts, Tomato Head offers one somewhat similar to Barnaby's -- locations in Lincoln Park, West Loop and Wilmette.
  • Post #17 - November 30th, 2009, 11:11 pm
    Post #17 - November 30th, 2009, 11:11 pm Post #17 - November 30th, 2009, 11:11 pm
    Tomato Head West Loop is okay. For West Loop thin crust, it's one of the better options to get delivered. Few places compare to Coalfire nearby, of course, but they lack a delivery option, as far as I know. Tomato Head is much better when overcooked a bit, rather than under. It still pales in comparison to a Pizano's thin crust, but is a somewhat different beast, and is quite a bit cheaper. It hits the spot when I'm craving cornmeal crust without the price.

    Tomato Head West Loop
    http://gettomatohead.com/
    945 W Randolph
    Chicago, IL
    312.226.1616
  • Post #18 - December 1st, 2009, 12:38 pm
    Post #18 - December 1st, 2009, 12:38 pm Post #18 - December 1st, 2009, 12:38 pm
    Ahhh the cornmeal on the bottom of the crust makes my long for Armand's in Elmwood Park (the Armand's of 20 years ago as well)

    They put cornmeal on the bottom of the crust. I'd always ask for extra cornmeal. It raises the pie above the pan allowing a more crispy crust.
  • Post #19 - December 2nd, 2009, 5:12 pm
    Post #19 - December 2nd, 2009, 5:12 pm Post #19 - December 2nd, 2009, 5:12 pm
    uncommon1 wrote:Thanks for the pics of the pizza bottoms. Looks like a trip to Racine is in my future. The bottom of that crust looks just like that of Basta Pasta's!
    We have a thread about Wells Brothers in the Beyond Chicagoland Forum. There is something you should know first. It's not in the best neighborhood, so keep an open mind. The good news is that the parking lot is actually guarded by a police officer everyday which makes it safer than most places in any neighborhood. :) They tend to shut down before 9pm so don't go too late.
    viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5800

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