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  • Post #31 - September 29th, 2010, 2:58 pm
    Post #31 - September 29th, 2010, 2:58 pm Post #31 - September 29th, 2010, 2:58 pm
    gjdad wrote:
    No I have not made Tasso yet my research shows the process is very similar to boston butt. The only point I would unsure of would be the initial cure recipe. I have a Cajun rub for the smoking that will be excellent.

    .


    a quick cure:

    cure the slices of shoulder for about 3-4 hours, then rinse. After that it is best to put the slices in the fridge on a rack, uncovered fo4 3 days.

    After that you are good to go, rub, and smoke @ 200 degrees until it hits 150-160 degrees.
  • Post #32 - September 29th, 2010, 3:33 pm
    Post #32 - September 29th, 2010, 3:33 pm Post #32 - September 29th, 2010, 3:33 pm
    jimswside wrote:a quick cure:

    cure the slices of shoulder for about 3-4 hours, then rinse. After that it is best to put the slices in the fridge on a rack, uncovered fo4 3 days.

    After that you are good to go, rub, and smoke @ 200 degrees until it hits 150-160 degrees.


    I saw the cure recipe posted earlier in this thread is that all there is sugar and salt? Also are you cutting down the shoulder just to quicken the cure time?
  • Post #33 - September 29th, 2010, 4:40 pm
    Post #33 - September 29th, 2010, 4:40 pm Post #33 - September 29th, 2010, 4:40 pm
    gjdad wrote:
    boudreaulicious wrote:gjdad--welcome to the board! Are you offering or asking on the peas? I grew cow peas in my shared community garden bed but I only got a few peas out of it--I think others beat me to the harvest which is the way those things work. However, if you have some, I'd love to take some off your hands! And thanks for the offer on the tasso--it's looking like we have a number of folks interesting in trying/exchanging so happy to have you get in on that as well!! Have you done it before because if you have, we may be tapping your expertise :D


    No I have not made Tasso yet my research shows the process is very similar to boston butt. The only point I would unsure of would be the initial cure recipe. I have a Cajun rub for the smoking that will be excellent.

    As for black eyed peas I can do dried ones easily, fresh ones I would have to find a source. Either way I would offer black eyed peas, most likely with smoked hocks.



    Matt--thanks for the lead on Link's book--i'm going to hit my handy dandy LTH amazon link and order one up--all of my NOLA cookbooks are ancient so this is a much needed cajun infusion!

    gjdad--black eyed peas with Ham Hocks--SOLD! How about a trade for some red beans and rice (the original inspiration for this thread). Side of comparison Tasso too.

    Cajun Jim--10/23 for exchange sounds perfect :P

    Did we just create the LTH Cajun/Southern Food Exchange group????
    "Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad." Miles Kington
  • Post #34 - September 29th, 2010, 6:00 pm
    Post #34 - September 29th, 2010, 6:00 pm Post #34 - September 29th, 2010, 6:00 pm
    boudreaulicious wrote:
    Matt--thanks for the lead on Link's book--i'm going to hit my handy dandy LTH amazon link and order one up--all of my NOLA cookbooks are ancient so this is a much needed cajun infusion!

    gjdad--black eyed peas with Ham Hocks--SOLD! How about a trade for some red beans and rice (the original inspiration for this thread). Side of comparison Tasso too.

    Cajun Jim--10/23 for exchange sounds perfect :P

    Did we just create the LTH Cajun/Southern Food Exchange group????


    Done! Now if only we could get étouffée, gumbo and some jambalaya. We could also use some zydego and brews maybe Dixie, Jaxx or Lone Star. A man can wish eh?
  • Post #35 - September 30th, 2010, 4:59 am
    Post #35 - September 30th, 2010, 4:59 am Post #35 - September 30th, 2010, 4:59 am
    gjdad wrote:Did we just create the LTH Cajun/Southern Food Exchange group????

    Done! Now if only we could get étouffée, gumbo and some jambalaya. We could also use some zydego and brews maybe Dixie, Jaxx or Lone Star. A man can wish eh?


    I'm all in for the food part, but I'll take a pass on those beers. Maybe a Yuengling (now available on the East coast down to FL) or a Shiner (best beer in TX).

    Anyone ready for shrimp & grits, crawfish in any form, fried gator tail, or turtle stew?
  • Post #36 - September 30th, 2010, 6:17 am
    Post #36 - September 30th, 2010, 6:17 am Post #36 - September 30th, 2010, 6:17 am
    little500 wrote:Anyone ready for shrimp & grits, crawfish in any form, fried gator tail, or turtle stew?



    Yes
  • Post #37 - September 30th, 2010, 6:26 am
    Post #37 - September 30th, 2010, 6:26 am Post #37 - September 30th, 2010, 6:26 am
    2nd.
    "Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad." Miles Kington
  • Post #38 - September 30th, 2010, 6:29 am
    Post #38 - September 30th, 2010, 6:29 am Post #38 - September 30th, 2010, 6:29 am
    fyi - for those looking I regularly buy pecan wood in chunks at my local Ace. They carry Webers brand of chunk wood..hickory, cherry, and pecan . I would try any Len' Ace..(Addison, Roselle, and Bloomingdale)
    First Place BBQ Sauce - 2010 NBBQA ( Natl BBQ Assoc) Awards of Excellence
  • Post #39 - September 30th, 2010, 6:42 am
    Post #39 - September 30th, 2010, 6:42 am Post #39 - September 30th, 2010, 6:42 am
    Head's Red BBQ wrote:fyi - for those looking I regularly buy pecan wood in chunks at my local Ace. They carry Webers brand of chunk wood..hickory, cherry, and pecan . I would try any Len' Ace..(Addison, Roselle, and Bloomingdale)



    I just started my fire. I am using the weber bagged chunks of pecan this morning for the first time. I usually use pecan chips from my favorite butcher (Zier Prime Meats). So far I like the smell :P . Go figure 8) . Nothing better than the smell of wood smoke in the morning!

    Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
    Lance: What?
    Kilgore: Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
    [kneels]
    Kilgore: I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like
    [sniffing, pondering]
    Kilgore: victory. Someday this war's gonna end...
    [suddenly walks off]
  • Post #40 - September 30th, 2010, 6:47 am
    Post #40 - September 30th, 2010, 6:47 am Post #40 - September 30th, 2010, 6:47 am
    gjdad wrote:
    jimswside wrote:a quick cure:

    cure the slices of shoulder for about 3-4 hours, then rinse. After that it is best to put the slices in the fridge on a rack, uncovered fo4 3 days.

    After that you are good to go, rub, and smoke @ 200 degrees until it hits 150-160 degrees.


    I saw the cure recipe posted earlier in this thread is that all there is sugar and salt? Also are you cutting down the shoulder just to quicken the cure time?



    I use Morton's Tenderquick for the cure, but there are alot of cure recipes on the net(and the good one upthread).

    correct, since there is only a 3-4 hour cure the 1-2" slices allow penetration. A whole shoulder(9-10 lbs) would take about a week for the cure process.

    My next batch I am going more for hunks of a deboned butt, probable get 4 chunks to cure(Ill probably cure them for closer to 6 hours, and do 3 spicy, and one more mild.
    Last edited by jimswside on September 30th, 2010, 7:12 am, edited 2 times in total.
  • Post #41 - September 30th, 2010, 6:56 am
    Post #41 - September 30th, 2010, 6:56 am Post #41 - September 30th, 2010, 6:56 am
    gonefishin wrote: Even if you don't have a smoker you can still cure the pork shoulder and cut for tasso.
    I use this as a basic recipe for a 10lb shoulder:
    The cure:
    7oz salt
    3oz sugar
    1oz Prague powder #1 (pink curing salt)

    I slice the deboned shoulder into 1.5lb sections. Then rub the cure into the meat, shaking off the excess.. Cure in the fridge for 4 hours. Rinse well and dry (repeat second rinse if the ham is too "salty"). Add your seasoning rub. The rub can be anything you want to flavor it with. You can use a pre-made cajun seasoning or make your own. Rub the pieces of shoulder and let sit in the fridge for a bit (4-5 hours is fine...but more or less won't hurt a thing). Since you're not smoking it, I imagine you could finish in the oven to an internal temperature of 160f.

    dan


    jimswside wrote:I use Morton's Tenderquick for the cure, but there are alot of cure recipes on the net.

    correct, since there is only a 3-4 hour cure the 1-2" slices allow penetration. A whole shoulder would take about a week for the cure process.

    My next batch I am going more for hunks of a deboned butt, probable get 4 chunks to cure(Ill probably cure them for closer to 6 hours, and do 3 spicy, and one more mild.


    My butcher has a vacuum injection system, basically a rolling drum he pulls a vacuum on. I would be tempted to use that except for the rinsing that was mentioned earlier. What effect does rinsing the initial application of salt provide?
  • Post #42 - September 30th, 2010, 7:00 am
    Post #42 - September 30th, 2010, 7:00 am Post #42 - September 30th, 2010, 7:00 am
    gjdad wrote:
    gonefishin wrote:

    What effect does rinsing the initial application of salt provide?



    rinses off the surface cure before tossing it in the fridge for a few days to let it absorb.
  • Post #43 - September 30th, 2010, 7:54 am
    Post #43 - September 30th, 2010, 7:54 am Post #43 - September 30th, 2010, 7:54 am
    boudreaulicious wrote:
    Did we just create the LTH Cajun/Southern Food Exchange group????



    I could see participating in such an exchange, food or ingredients.

    Perhaps a new thread to discuss logistics, etc. would be in order.
  • Post #44 - September 30th, 2010, 10:19 am
    Post #44 - September 30th, 2010, 10:19 am Post #44 - September 30th, 2010, 10:19 am
    gjdad wrote:
    Head's Red BBQ wrote:fyi - for those looking I regularly buy pecan wood in chunks at my local Ace. They carry Webers brand of chunk wood..hickory, cherry, and pecan . I would try any Len' Ace..(Addison, Roselle, and Bloomingdale)



    I just started my fire. I am using the weber bagged chunks of pecan this morning for the first time. I usually use pecan chips from my favorite butcher (Zier Prime Meats). So far I like the smell :P . Go figure 8) . Nothing better than the smell of wood smoke in the morning!

    Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
    Lance: What?
    Kilgore: Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
    [kneels]
    Kilgore: I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like
    [sniffing, pondering]
    Kilgore: victory. Someday this war's gonna end...
    [suddenly walks off]

    yep its a good product ..been using the pecan chunks all summer..I was shocked to find them at Ace
    First Place BBQ Sauce - 2010 NBBQA ( Natl BBQ Assoc) Awards of Excellence
  • Post #45 - September 30th, 2010, 11:30 am
    Post #45 - September 30th, 2010, 11:30 am Post #45 - September 30th, 2010, 11:30 am
    gjdad wrote:
    gonefishin wrote: Even if you don't have a smoker you can still cure the pork shoulder and cut for tasso.
    I use this as a basic recipe for a 10lb shoulder:
    The cure:
    7oz salt
    3oz sugar
    1oz Prague powder #1 (pink curing salt)

    I slice the deboned shoulder into 1.5lb sections. Then rub the cure into the meat, shaking off the excess.. Cure in the fridge for 4 hours. Rinse well and dry (repeat second rinse if the ham is too "salty"). Add your seasoning rub. The rub can be anything you want to flavor it with. You can use a pre-made cajun seasoning or make your own. Rub the pieces of shoulder and let sit in the fridge for a bit (4-5 hours is fine...but more or less won't hurt a thing). Since you're not smoking it, I imagine you could finish in the oven to an internal temperature of 160f.

    dan


    jimswside wrote:I use Morton's Tenderquick for the cure, but there are alot of cure recipes on the net.

    correct, since there is only a 3-4 hour cure the 1-2" slices allow penetration. A whole shoulder would take about a week for the cure process.

    My next batch I am going more for hunks of a deboned butt, probable get 4 chunks to cure(Ill probably cure them for closer to 6 hours, and do 3 spicy, and one more mild.


    My butcher has a vacuum injection system, basically a rolling drum he pulls a vacuum on. I would be tempted to use that except for the rinsing that was mentioned earlier. What effect does rinsing the initial application of salt provide?



    Hi again gjdad,

    Curing salt is what gives ham and bacon the pink color and "hammy" taste. When the cure is done you can rinse the meat off, slice a little piece of meat, fry it up and give it a taste. If it's too salty you can try another rinse or even let it sit in cold water for five minutes or so. Then try another slice until you reach the desired taste. Because the sliced chunks are so small and the cure time is relatively short, it usually doesn't get overly hammy. But give it a taste and use your best judgment.

    dan
  • Post #46 - September 30th, 2010, 12:21 pm
    Post #46 - September 30th, 2010, 12:21 pm Post #46 - September 30th, 2010, 12:21 pm
    HAHA! I am excited. I just ordered myself a sassafras tree and two pecan trees. It'll be a good number of years before the pecans fruit...but the sooner I get them in!

    I never mail ordered trees before...hopefully everything goes well.

    hopefully in the future we can have fresh ground file for everyone!



    :D ,
    dan
  • Post #47 - November 22nd, 2010, 5:02 pm
    Post #47 - November 22nd, 2010, 5:02 pm Post #47 - November 22nd, 2010, 5:02 pm
    I went to our local Lake Zurich True Value Hardware store today for some electrical supplies, and my first stop (as always) was over in the BBQ section. I was astounded to discover Pecan, Cherry, and Apple wood chunks (not chips!) All Weber brand. Like a gold mine, I loaded up the cart.

    Casper True Value
    100 South Old Rand Road
    Lake Zurich, IL 60047-2456
    (847) 438-6751
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