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    Post #1 - May 25th, 2010, 12:14 pm
    Post #1 - May 25th, 2010, 12:14 pm Post #1 - May 25th, 2010, 12:14 pm
    This past weekend I visited the many distilleries that straddle the Blue Grass Highway in northern Kentucky. The trip included many interesting tours about the history and production of bourbon, beautiful views of the Kentucky countryside and perhaps most importantly, plenty of samples of delicious bourbon.

    There are eight distilleries that offer tours. Six of them are part of a program called the Kentucky Bourbon Trail. These include Woodford Reserve, Jim Beam, Heaven Hill, Wild Turkey, Four Roses and Makers Mark. Buffalo Trace and Tom Moore also offer tours, but they're not featured on the trail.

    As a general note, it seems that the bourbon industry (or at least the bourbon distillery tour industry) is growing. Nearly every distillery had some construction going on and mentioned that they were expanding their tours in the next year or two. I'm not sure what direction it's going to go, but I definitely enjoyed it the way it's currently setup. Also note that the information given online didn't completely match up with what happens at the distilleries. Most don't have set tour times and those that do, don't necessarily follow what's on the website. I recommend calling in advance if you're planning to schedule the day around tours and times.

    Something interesting I took home from the experience was that the whisky goes into the barrel as a clear, very corny tasting liquid. The aging occurs due to the expansions and contractions associated with temperature changes. A master distiller's job is to test the barrels to determine when the liquid has matured and is ready to bottle. Some barrels are chosen to be blended in small quantities to create a premium label, this is called small batch. Other barrels are chosen to be bottled without blending, these are called single barrel. But the important thing is that all the whiskys start off the same. As far as I could tell, there is no "premium" recipe, just bourbon that aged particularly well. Bourbon goes into the barrel at approximately 125 proof. Some alcohol evaporates over time, but if you're buying a bourbon that isn't barrel strength (usually over 100 proof), that means they added water to the liquid before bottling it.

    Jim Beam
    Our first stop was Jim Beam. They had by far the least impressive tour of the bunch. They send you out to the original Jim Beam house for a 5 minute video then give you a couple samples. I'm glad we did this first because if we had seen a couple others we would've been totally annoyed that they put zero effort into the tour. Apparently they're planning on having a full tour sometime next year. We sampled the Booker's (barrel strength, most people spit it out in disgust) and the Red Stag which is bourbon with black cherries added. I like Beam's small batch and single barrel stuff, and I was happy to see them pouring Booker's (one of my favorites) even though they knew most people wouldn't care for it.

    Four Roses
    Apparently their production was shut down for the summer so we were able to tour the facility but we couldn't see any bourbon being made. It was definitely a smaller operation than many of the other distilleries. They stand out as using ten different mash bills (recipes), whereas a lot of other places use 3 or 4 at most. They allowed us to sample their 7 year, a small batch and a single barrel. This was the best tasting of the weekend. I think Four Roses is becoming one of my go-to brands. With all those recipes they can create many different blends and have more options to choose from when choosing barrels for small batch and single barrel bottlings. They focused very little on their brand and a lot on what defines good bourbon during the tour, which I think underscores their mission to create a quality product rather than a well-marketed product.

    Wild Turkey
    The only distillery that didn't offer a tasting. Apparently they used to be owned by Pernod who frowned on the liability. Recently they were purchased by Campari, so they will be doing tastings in the near future. Their tour was definitely the most thorough. The video at the beginning was 10 years old and a little too much propaganda for my taste (and on a 27 inch CRT in a crowded room). They took us into the area where the mash is fermented. They even let people stick their hands into the mash to taste the whisky as it goes from sugar water to fermented sugar water over the course of a couple days. I have to say I was a little surprised but I guess all the impurities filter out in the still (or so they say). We also toured the bottling facility and the aging facility. Wild Turkey only has one mash bill and they make their different products by blending different ages of their whisky together. I wasn't able to taste their product, but I'm definitely curious to taste it with a more discerning eye.

    Buffalo Trace
    Whereas most of the distilleries are in somewhat remote locations, Buffalo Trace was in the middle of Frankfort, Kentucky's capital. We showed up at 2:30 hoping to catch their last tour (they close at 3:30) but apparently the last tour left at 2. We did get to do a tasting though. They served us a taste of moon dog (unaged), then two bourbons that were aged versions of the moon dog, the Buffalo Trace and Eagle Rare. It was interesting to see how different the two tasted even though they started out as the same liquid and were put in identical barrels. It's all about location in the aging facility and weather patterns. The guy doing the tasting was very knowledgeable, and had a lot of great insight about what to look for in bourbon. This was nice because a lot of the tastings were done by people who clearly weren't bourbon drinkers.

    Only two distilleries offer tastings on Sunday so we saved those for the next day. We were running ahead of schedule, so we decided to check out Woodford Reserve even though it's closed on Sundays. The drive to Woodford Reserve was stunningly beautiful. We drove by fields and fields of horse farms with elegantly manicured lawns of what we assumed was bluegrass. The drive was the most scenic of the weekend and a good detour considering we had 30 minutes to kill before getting to our first stop of the day. The distillery itself was small but located next to a picturesque lake. They make only one product and charge for their tour (the only place that charges) so we weren't too disappointed that we couldn't make the tour, but the drive out there was memorable.

    Heaven Hill
    This was by far the most corporate tour of the weekend. They renovated their facility a couple years ago and now host the "Bourbon Heritage Center" on their grounds. Their video was very slick and the tasting room was inside a "bourbon barrel." The tour was only of the aging facility, but it was very thorough. The tasting was of Elijah Craig and Evan Williams. They put the tasting glasses on white lights so you can really analyze the color. Also they start off the tasting with sample nosing of bottled scents. It had a very sterile feel to it, quite the opposite of the Wild Turkey tour that was very unrefined. I fear that this is the direction the bourbon tours will be heading, which is a real shame. Also, I didn't care for either of the bourbons they served us. Heaven Hill has a ton of brands, including many other liquors, and they highlighted that they serve their bourbon aged longer than other distilleries. I'm not an expert, but they struck me as a gimmick brand focusing on uneducated customers who associate age with quality. They also really were pushing their ultra-premium (read expensive) bourbons at the facility. They are positioning themselves as the collector's brand, which I guess is nice if you're in the market for a 500 dollar bottle of bourbon.

    Makers Mark
    This was our last tour of the weekend. They have the most beautiful distillery with a stream running right through the middle. The tour was pretty thorough and they also let you stick your hands in the fermenting mash. I didn't realize that every bottle is hand-dipped in wax, and with every case they full-dip a bottle as a collector's item. They only make one product and they're pretty up front with their recipe on the tour. They differentiate themselves as an everyday bourbon made with a high percentage of wheat to create a well-rounded and mellow flavor. At the tasting room they serve you the bourbon unaged and then the standard Makers Mark. They don't have a specific length of time that they age their bourbon, rather the master distiller determines when certain barrels are ready to go. Typically 6-8 years. I actually liked their unaged bourbon the best of any I tasted all weekend (4 in all), and their bourbon really was mellow and smooth. I'd had Makers Mark before, but comparing it next to all those different brands this weekend, I appreciate that they are producing a solid product. Also in the gift shop they let you buy a bottle and dip it in wax yourself. A pretty cool gimmick I have to say.

    We weren't able to visit Tom Moore. There's no info on their website and I couldn't get a hold of them by phone.

    Kentucky isn't too far from Chicago (a 50 minute flight) and a weekend is plenty of time to visit 4-5 distilleries and taste some excellent bourbon. I highly recommend it.
    Last edited by turkob on May 25th, 2010, 2:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
  • Post #2 - May 25th, 2010, 12:18 pm
    Post #2 - May 25th, 2010, 12:18 pm Post #2 - May 25th, 2010, 12:18 pm
    Thanks, turkob, for the detailed report. This is something I've wanted to do for a while. Your post has inspired me get it on the calendar sooner than later.

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  • Post #3 - May 25th, 2010, 12:23 pm
    Post #3 - May 25th, 2010, 12:23 pm Post #3 - May 25th, 2010, 12:23 pm
    Thanks for the rundown. I'll definitely keep my eyes open for the Four Roses products.
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  • Post #4 - May 25th, 2010, 12:26 pm
    Post #4 - May 25th, 2010, 12:26 pm Post #4 - May 25th, 2010, 12:26 pm
    Binny's offers single barrel bottles from Four Roses that are actually selected by the bourbon buyer from Binny's. I have a bottle at home that I am absolutely loving.
  • Post #5 - May 25th, 2010, 1:09 pm
    Post #5 - May 25th, 2010, 1:09 pm Post #5 - May 25th, 2010, 1:09 pm
    turkob wrote:...I have a bottle at home that I am absolutely loving.

    Me too and I really enjoyed the tastings at their booth during WhiskeyFest.

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  • Post #6 - May 25th, 2010, 1:14 pm
    Post #6 - May 25th, 2010, 1:14 pm Post #6 - May 25th, 2010, 1:14 pm
    turkob, I assume you've had the Woodford Reserve? Good stuff for about $35.
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  • Post #7 - May 25th, 2010, 1:16 pm
    Post #7 - May 25th, 2010, 1:16 pm Post #7 - May 25th, 2010, 1:16 pm
    Yeah I've had it before, but it's been a while. Between whiskyfest, a recent derby party and now visiting bourbon country I've probably had 50 different whiskies since my last sip of Woodford Reserve (or Wild Turkey for that matter). It's time I went back to sample some of the classics.
  • Post #8 - May 26th, 2010, 6:55 am
    Post #8 - May 26th, 2010, 6:55 am Post #8 - May 26th, 2010, 6:55 am
    great job , sounds like it was fun
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  • Post #9 - May 26th, 2010, 9:08 am
    Post #9 - May 26th, 2010, 9:08 am Post #9 - May 26th, 2010, 9:08 am
    Nice trip report. I used to live in Louisville and a handful of distilleries were just "down the road". I usually had a bottle of Henry McKenna around the house; it's now produced by Heaven Hill and a recent taster comment on their 10-year old single barrel was "like Maker's Mark with steel-toed boots". Another brand distilled by Heaven Hill is Ezra Brooks, which is a nice 90-proof start to your weekend.

    I typically reserve Booker's and other premium labels for savoring on the rocks. The other stuff goes into mixed drinks.

    At the time we lived there I had a friend who was a liquor wholesaler and he claimed if you were around the Wild Turkey facility at the right time you could see railroad tankers off-loading spirits presumably brought in from elsewhere. Don't know if that's true.

    The most noticeable development in the distillery biz has been consolidation. Most of the operations are now part of huge beverage conglomerates. Like most small industries, succession is a challenge.

    If you go on the Bourbon Trail excursion, try to make time for a stop at Old Talbott Tavern in Bardstown. It's been serving travelers since the 1700s.
  • Post #10 - May 26th, 2010, 9:49 am
    Post #10 - May 26th, 2010, 9:49 am Post #10 - May 26th, 2010, 9:49 am
    little500 wrote:If you go on the Bourbon Trail excursion, try to make time for a stop at Old Talbott Tavern in Bardstown. It's been serving travelers since the 1700s.


    That is a good rec. Also, on 3rd St. in downtown Bardstown, for those of you nostalgic for your old Chicago Woolworth's lunch counter, you can go to Hurst's Drugs, which does the lunch and soda fountain thing in their pharmacy dime store.

    Also, if going to the Woodford Reserve or Buffalo Trace distillery, I highly recommend Wallace Station, a really great lunch spot (also a Friday night fish fry) that's right on scenic byway Old Frankfort Pike, one of the most beautiful drives I've taken in Kentucky.

    I'm not much of a Makers fan, but you're right; that distillery is right off a Hollywood movie set. Pristine and beautiful. I almost expect an animated deer to pop out of the bushes and shout 'bird!'.
    Also, nearby on the fringes of Springfield is Backyard BBQ (where US150 & KY528 meet) which is a nice low key bbq shack where you can also get a drink (most of bourbon country is either dry or moist or only recently went wet).
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  • Post #11 - May 26th, 2010, 10:54 am
    Post #11 - May 26th, 2010, 10:54 am Post #11 - May 26th, 2010, 10:54 am
    turkob -- I know you said you did not get to go on the Buffalo Trace tour, but do you know whether they offer tours of the facilities where others' contract-distilled brands (Blanton's, Van Winkle, Weller) are distilled and tastings of these brands? Or is it strictly a Buffalo Trace tour and tasting?
  • Post #12 - May 26th, 2010, 11:46 am
    Post #12 - May 26th, 2010, 11:46 am Post #12 - May 26th, 2010, 11:46 am
    I think other brands are distilled, aged and bottled in their facility. I asked specifically about Van Winkle and they said that Julian Van Winkle still serves as master distiller for their barrels and shows up for the days they bottle.

    The tasting is only for Buffalo Trace products though.
  • Post #13 - May 26th, 2010, 12:31 pm
    Post #13 - May 26th, 2010, 12:31 pm Post #13 - May 26th, 2010, 12:31 pm
    Nice report!

    I've been to Makers and Heaven Hill. I agree with all the sentiments above about Maker and it being on the dictionary page for picturesque. The bad news for me, was that when I visited, they only offered chocolate cups, no actual tastes.

    On the other hand, I enjoyed Heaven Hill a bit more than Turkob. I did not miss seeing the actual stills/mash, having seen that already--I would like to see the old fashioned operation at Woodford's, but I'll kinda get to that below. Anyways, I appreciated the discussion on aging and such at HH. I found it very persuasive what they said, that anyone could mix up whiskey, what made bourbon was the KY climate which caused the best evaporation/expansion in the barrels, and that was what produced the product. It was also interesting learning about the skill needed in knowing which floor to have the barrels. I thought the tastes were generous and plenty fine.

    Wanting to see the copper pot still of Woodford, we headed in that direction, but we missed the deadline. I would offer, though, that that direction, east, through horse country, is pretty darn scenic. Moreover, if you are anywhere close to there, you should stop at the Weisenberger water powered mill. They won't let you in the mill itself, but it's still quite the sight, and the stone ground grains (blessedly local) are a real treat.
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  • Post #14 - May 26th, 2010, 12:37 pm
    Post #14 - May 26th, 2010, 12:37 pm Post #14 - May 26th, 2010, 12:37 pm
    Vital Information wrote:Nice report!


    Agreed!

    I went on a trip to Kentucky four years ago with some friends and did most of these tours too. I blogged about it at the time and I hope you don't mind me copy/pasting that here. Not just to increase my own cred at the expense of your thread but because I cover much of the same territory but had slightly different experiences and maybe people will enjoy reading about them too.

    I'll present it as is but note that it's likely some of the details of the tours have changed, and I know some of my tastes have changed; I'm more tolerant of high-rye bourbons these days and I'm also not as big a fan of Maker's Mark as I once was. I'm guessing you probably had a different tour guide than us at Wild Turkey because I can't imagine anyone writing up the tour we had without mentioning her personality. I hope she's still around 'cause I've been telling people about her for years.

    I just got back from a trip to Kentucky with a couple friends of mine. We spent two days touring various distilleries along the bourbon trail, culminating in a bourbon industry event--the Bardstown Sampler, which is a preliminary event to September's Kentucky Bourbon Festival. Eight distilleries were there, and I wish I had kept better tasting notes. But I figure I'll throw together some of my recollections from the weekend for you anyway.

    At 9:00 am on Friday morning, we arrived at Buffalo Trace distillery in Frankfort, KY for the first tour of the day. It was a great tour to start the day. The people there were very friendly, the gift shop/guest center staff were helpful, and our tour guide was knowledgeable and a very nice guy. We were told he is a former mayor of Frankfort. Apparently among our (small) group was one of the distillery's "ambassadors", a very talkative little old guy who was probably the smiliest and friendliest guy I ever met. So one of the distillery's head honchos came out and walked along on the tour with us, chatting, until we reached a certain walkway upon which this "ambassador" had been celebrated with his name inscribed upon a brick. The guy teared up a bit; he was visibly moved.

    Apart from that, the tour basically set the pattern for most of the other tours we would experience during our stay. It started with some information about the distillery, followed by a a short film that was basically a PR love letter to the history and tradition behind their bourbon. Also, this was the first of several distilleries that claimed to be the oldest "X" distillery in Kentucky, where "X" is a phrase like family-owned or continuously operating or something similar. This particular distillery was one of only 4 in the country that was licensed to continue operating (producing medicinal liquor) during prohibition. After the film we got to walk through a rickhouse and then retire to the guest center/gift shop for a tasting.

    A brief word about the rickhouses--these were my favorite part of any tour that allowed entry, apart from the tastings. The rickhouses are the giant warehouses where bourbon barrels are stored during the aging process. A typical rickhouse might be 6 to 9 stories high. The barrels are on ricks that are stacked three high per floor and are 15 barrels deep. Each floor has row after row of these ricks. The rickhouses seemed to average holding about 20,000 barrels each. The great thing about them though is walking through them, smelling the "Angel's Share," which is the industry term for that portion of each barrel lost to evaporation during the aging process. They smell real, like wood and vanilla and bourbon. I could walk through them for hours, just running my hand along the barrels and smelling the smells. One of the rickhouses at Buffalo Trace had been damaged by a tornado a few weeks ago. Part of the roof and the top-floor wall on one side of the building had been torn off (this was a brick wall, three bricks deep). However, the barrels themselves remained in the ricks. I can't imagine what it would be like to have a tornado start hurling 500lb barrels of bourbon out of a warehouse at you, but I'm willing to try it.

    In the Buffalo Trace gift shop, they had bottles of 20+ years old Pappy Van Winkle bourbon available for around $100. Damn. I wish they'd let us sample it, but instead we sampled the Buffalo Trace titular line and for some bizarre reason, Rain Vodka. I enjoyed the bourbon, tolerated the vodka, and off we went to the next distillery.

    Second was Woodford Reserve. The drive to this distillery, and the distillery grounds themselves, are pure Kentucky, or at least the storybook, non-trailer-trash-and-meth-infested Kentucky. Tiny roads, well-kept fences with horses overlooking, rolling hills, and everything just so green you can hardly believe it. This tour cost $5 while all the rest were free. The tour was OK, and the bourbon tasted nice, but everything in the gift shop was about 3x the price of similar items at other distillery gift shops, and for $5 the tasting could have used something a little fancier than a plastic shotglass (which could have contained more than 1/2 ounce of bourbon for that matter, but that unfortunately was par for the course at all the distillery tours. Some of them had no tastings at all). Also, the tour guide couldn't seem to shut up about the fact that the distillery was owned by Jack Daniels, how great Jack Daniels was, Jack Daniels this, Jack Daniels that. Hey, how about being proud of the product you actually make here? Also, there was a group from Toyota who was touring the facility at the same time we were, and the tour guide kept referring to them as "The Japanese." What, all of them? (Well, maybe. Everywhere we went this weekend, there were japanese tourists. I don't know if they were all part of the same group from Toyota, but it really became apparent how popular bourbon is in Japan.)

    Next we stopped by Four Roses. I'd never heard of them before, and that apparently is because until recently they were only available overseas. Even now, they are only available in Kentucky and foreign countries. We didn't have time to go on the tour, because we absolutely did not want to miss the last tour of the day at Wild Turkey. The gift shop lady said we only got to taste the product if we went on the tour, and since it wasn't available anywhere else (at least anywhere we'd be likely to be), we bought a couple of bottles between us (and regretted it once we tasted it later. That shit sucks. At least I didn't get the $35 single barrel product, only the regular bourbon.) The distillery is apparently owned by Kirin, the Japanese brewing company. There was a japanese promotional poster in the gift shop and apparently one of their slogans is "Have a sweet evening, please."

    The last tour of Friday was Wild Turkey. My friends and I have a history of drinking a lot of Wild Turkey together so this was something we'd all been looking forward to, and it didn't disappoint, It was the least formal tour of the bunch, but also one of the most educational. The tour guide was a crazy lady who wasn't afraid to just holler at people. She defined bourbon as "a good young whiskey, a new charred white oak barrel, and a whole lotta laws. That's it, it's just that easy, it's just that simple." She ended quite a few of her sentences with that little catch phrase there. I don't know that I can explain how enjoyable it made the tour simply that it was so unpolished. It was apparent that this lady was not a professional tour guide reading cue cards, but someone who had been involved in the process and knew it well. All three of us pretty much blew our spending wads getting shit at their gift shop. Also, I ran into another homebrewer just chatting with people while waiting for the tour to start. Nice guy, down from Michigan--he let me try some of his homebrewed scotch ale in the parking lot. It was fantastic.

    Saturday we started, again at 9:00 am, at the Jim Beam Kentucky Outpost. Now, I'm a fan of Jim Beam. It's not the best bourbon in the world, but it is very good for such an inexpensive bourbon, and it's typically what I use for mixing drinks. However, I was pretty disappointed in their tour. They had what they called a "self-guided" tour, which basically means that they sit you in front of a movie screen where you watch a 10 minute promotional film, then you walk along a path with some museum-like exhibits (an old-fashioned still, an old-fashioned cooperage, an old-fashioned fire engine, etc.).

    The high point of the Jim Beam tour went as follows: The only people other than us on the "tour" were a middle-aged guy from Pennsylvania (who was wearing a goddamn cowboy hat) and his wife. My friends and I were looking at the cooperage display when they caught up with us. The wife started pointing things out about the display and seemed really interested in everything, but the guy looked really agitated and impatient. He kept saying "I know, I know" and "My family had a still, I know all this stuff." Finally she sighed and said "Fine, we can go look at the fire truck." LOL

    The tasting was nice though; it took place in the Beams' old house in very comfortable surroundings and they sampled a couple of their higher-end lines for us. There was also a very interesting miniature still on display in the house. But I'd have enjoyed the display a great deal more if they'd sprung for a tour guide and maybe actually taken us through some of the real distilling process like every other distillery did, instead of letting us show ourselves a bunch of crappy museum displays.

    Then we visited Maker's Mark, another bourbon I happen to like quite a bit. The tour was nice, we got to see quite a bit of the actual process, but of course by this time much of the information was old hat to us. They did have some very nice old-fashioned wooden mash tanks that were over 100 years old and still in production, so those were nice to see. At the gift shop after the tour, you can buy a $13 375-ml bottle of Maker's Mark and hand-dip the trademark red wax seal yourself. It's gimmicky, but kind of neat, and $13 for a 375-ml bottle isn't out of line at all, not to mention the keepsake value. So of course I waited in line for 20 minutes like the rest of the idiots to hand-dip my bottle. Not one of us did a good job of it at all, incidentally--the wax seals don't have that nice drippy effect like you see on the typical Maker's Mark bottle. So from now on I'll probably leave it to the pros.

    The last tour we went on was at Heaven Hill. They've built quite a nice Bourbon Heritage Center in Bardstown, KY, and their tour is really quite professionally done. I can't say that I enjoy too many of their products though. They distill Evan Williams, Elijah Craig, Old Fitzgerald, Fighting Cock, and related bourbon brands. They also distill or import a really long list of other spirits that I won't even bother getting into, except to say that Burnett's Gin sucks ass. The tour and the facility were really nice though, and the tasting room at the Bourbon Heritage Center is extremely nice, built into a giant barrel at the center of their gift shop/museum. We sampled the Evan Williams single barrel and I think the Elijah Craig 12-year-old small batch. The former had such a pronounced rye character that it would be easy to mistake for a strong rye whiskey instead of a bourbon, but the latter was quite good. I don't know about $55 per 750ml bottle good, but definitely drinkable.

    That evening, the Kentucky Bourbon Festival had their preliminary event, the Bardstown Sampler, at a big barn outside of town. Eight distilleries were there, along with about a dozen tables of catered food from different local restaurants and suppliers. Heaven Hill was there sampling 5 of their products, but since I wasn't fond of any of them, I don't remember which ones they were; 1792 was there with a single product which was very good; Four Roses was there with both their regular bourbon and their single-barrel (which I found out had maybe the highest rye percentage of any product I drank all weekend--their bill is 60% corn, 35% rye and 5% malted barley. I seriously cannot recommend their products at all); Van Winkle had 4 different products (including that 20+ year old $100 bottle of Pappy Van Winkle I mentioned earlier, so I did eventually get to taste it. WOW. If I were going to drop $100 on a bottle of bourbon, this would probably be the one); Buffalo Trace had another table separate from the Van Winkle table with several products available for tasting, and all their stuff that I tasted was really good; Jim Beam had several products as well, including both Booker's and Baker's from their high-end lines (Booker's was too high-rye for me, but Baker's wasn't bad); Maker's Mark was sampling both their regular bourbon and their new pre-mixed Mint Julep product (which I tasted, and it seemed okay, but I have never had a real Mint Julep so what would I know); and Wild Turkey was there offering their Rare Breed (very good), Kentucky Spirit (a bit disappointing for me, since it's their most expensive product), and their new Russel's Reserve (a new favorite), along with the 101 and their Liqueur.

    Yeah, I'm having a hard time recalling exact details of all the bourbons I tasted, but that should give you an idea of the high and low points. I do remember talking to a Jim Beam rep for a while and mentioning my complaints about their tour. He seemed very receptive and agreed with many of my suggestions, and gave me a nice insider's perspective of the Jim Beam distillery. Then I mentioned Maker's Mark and how much I enjoyed it, and he said "Yeah, women like it." Yeah, I got told.

    So anyway, I came home with 2/3 a (crappy) bottle of Four Roses, a 375-ml bottle of Maker's Mark hand-dipped by me personally, a Wild Turkey hip flask that is absolutely gorgeous, and a wild assortment of glassware, some of which I bought at gift shops and some of which was swag at the Sampler. I spent a crapload of money, maintained a bit of a low-end buzz all weekend (which occasionally was nurtured into a full-on drunk), got to taste some of the best bourbon in the world and learned so much about bourbon that my head is still spinning. Or maybe that hangover hasn't quite gone away yet.
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  • Post #15 - May 30th, 2010, 6:12 pm
    Post #15 - May 30th, 2010, 6:12 pm Post #15 - May 30th, 2010, 6:12 pm
    My friend and I visited Cincinnati earlier this month for a few days, and we drove down into Kentucky to visit Woodford Reserve one day. As mentioned upthread, the road leading there was an absolutely beautiful drive, and the grounds are stunning. I don't have much else to contribute, but wanted to share these pics that my friend took.

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    The Barrel Run-in operation since 1934.

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    Tanks for fermenting mash, made of cedar

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    Triple distillation process

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    Aging (aren't we all?)

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    We stopped afterward at Billy's BBQ in Lexington, where my friend got the Bourbon Barrel Ale made by Kentucky Ale, a beer aged for 6 weeks in the used barrels from Woodford Reserve. Only had a sip but it definitely tasted like bourbon flavored beer.
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  • Post #16 - May 30th, 2010, 7:51 pm
    Post #16 - May 30th, 2010, 7:51 pm Post #16 - May 30th, 2010, 7:51 pm
    That Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale is really good, especially on tap. I've got an expensive beer-and-a-shot habit of KY BB Ale and Old Pogue.
    BBC also does a bourbon barrel ale, not as good but worth having for sure. I'm pretty sure that Bearno's on Bardstown Road includes it in its $1 draft special.
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  • Post #17 - September 7th, 2010, 9:40 pm
    Post #17 - September 7th, 2010, 9:40 pm Post #17 - September 7th, 2010, 9:40 pm
    Planning to hit many of the distilleries mentioned above in October...wondering if anyone has suggestions for a liquor store with an extremely well stocked Bourbon section in the area of Frankfort, Bardstown or Louisville, or if that would be redundant with the distillery visits?

    I'm looking for some Heaven Hill Bonded and particular vintages of various Buffalo Trace Antique Collection offerings.
  • Post #18 - October 3rd, 2010, 2:33 pm
    Post #18 - October 3rd, 2010, 2:33 pm Post #18 - October 3rd, 2010, 2:33 pm
    kl1191 wrote:Planning to hit many of the distilleries mentioned above in October...wondering if anyone has suggestions for a liquor store with an extremely well stocked Bourbon section in the area of Frankfort, Bardstown or Louisville, or if that would be redundant with the distillery visits?

    I'm looking for some Heaven Hill Bonded and particular vintages of various Buffalo Trace Antique Collection offerings.

    In Louisville a couple weeks ago, we were told that Liquor Barn has the best overall selection of bourbon and that the Springhurst store is the largest of the chain. It's an impressive store with a particularly strong selection of low- and mid-priced brands that aren't available in Illinois. I picked up a bottle of Old Heaven Hill BIB, among others. Another great feature is a "taproom" where you can get growlers filled or try well-chosen flights of local (and other) beers. The guy manning the taps was extremely knowledgeable about beer in general and local breweries in particular.

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    Liquor Barn — Springhurst
    4301 Towne Center Dr
    (near Westport & I-265)
    Louisville KY
    502-426-4222
  • Post #19 - October 4th, 2010, 7:57 am
    Post #19 - October 4th, 2010, 7:57 am Post #19 - October 4th, 2010, 7:57 am
    Chicago Expat wrote:That Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale is really good, especially on tap. I've got an expensive beer-and-a-shot habit of KY BB Ale and Old Pogue.
    BBC also does a bourbon barrel ale, not as good but worth having for sure. I'm pretty sure that Bearno's on Bardstown Road includes it in its $1 draft special.


    The Bluegrass Brewing Company makes a terrific Bourbon Barrel Stout with a coffee like finish. It has become my "go-to" beer in my local drinking hole.
  • Post #20 - October 4th, 2010, 8:28 am
    Post #20 - October 4th, 2010, 8:28 am Post #20 - October 4th, 2010, 8:28 am
    Rene G wrote:Liquor Barn — Springhurst
    4301 Towne Center Dr
    (near Westport & I-265)
    Louisville KY
    502-426-4222


    Great, thank you. I received another recommendation for Liquor Barn, as well. I will check it out.
  • Post #21 - October 24th, 2010, 4:43 pm
    Post #21 - October 24th, 2010, 4:43 pm Post #21 - October 24th, 2010, 4:43 pm
    kl1191 wrote:
    Rene G wrote:Liquor Barn — Springhurst
    4301 Towne Center Dr
    (near Westport & I-265)
    Louisville KY
    502-426-4222


    Great, thank you. I received another recommendation for Liquor Barn, as well. I will check it out.


    Ended up at 3 different Liquor Barns, but not the one specified here...

    Of the Fern Valley Road and Hurstbourne Parkway locations in Louisville, the latter had a much better selection. The Beaumont Centre Pkwy location in Lexington was even better. That said, Red Dot Liquors in Frankfort (both Schenkel Ln and Lawrenceburg Rd) were where I found some excellent bargains (and possibly the last bottle of 2010 George T. Stagg not spoken for in KY).

    Did tours at Four Roses, Heaven Hill, Buffalo Trace, Wild Turkey and Woodford Reserve. Briefly visited Beam and Marker's Mark.

    I can't say that any one was the best, it would definitely depend on your familiarity with bourbon and how often you drink it. For me, personally, I found the Buffalo Trace tour to be the most interesting (helps that we were there at 9 am with one other person on our tour, so our guide took us to some pretty out of the way places). Heaven Hill and Four Roses were extremely educational, but in different ways. Wild Turkey is shut down at the moment (their new distillery was supposed to be up and running last month, but construction delays have mounted), so it was something of a miss. I can imagine it being a much better experience when the place is up and running. (Also, here's your warning...in about 6-7 years, there may be a Wild Turkey shortage due to the unexpected loss of production time...stock up now.) But, we did get to meet and chat with Jimmy Russell, who was a hoot. Finally, I'm not a fan of Woodford, and found their approach to be a bit disingenuous and at times condescending. The tour felt contrived and as others called it, "Hollywood". It's beautifully situated, though, and the drive from Woodford to Wild Turkey on the back roads is one of the most picturesque you can find.
  • Post #22 - August 15th, 2011, 6:28 am
    Post #22 - August 15th, 2011, 6:28 am Post #22 - August 15th, 2011, 6:28 am
    was going through ky a week back . went to the woodford reserve tour.
    had a great sammie (lunch meats )on foccacia bread ,hit the spot
    and had one sample :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
    philw bbq cbj for kcbs &M.I.M. carolina pit masters
  • Post #23 - August 17th, 2011, 8:50 am
    Post #23 - August 17th, 2011, 8:50 am Post #23 - August 17th, 2011, 8:50 am
    turkob wrote:Makers Mark
    This was our last tour of the weekend. They have the most beautiful distillery with a stream running right through the middle. The tour was pretty thorough and they also let you stick your hands in the fermenting mash.

    years ago I had some business in Bardstown and the car had the newfangled (at the time) gps device, so I plugged in the Maker's Mark distilillery. What a good time.

    I've come close to making the Woodford Reserve tour when going to see the pony's run at Keeneland which is one of the finest horse tracks in all of the US www.keeneland.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeneland

    This thread makes me realize I really need to get going with some of the other distilleries that are on the bourbon trail
    I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be.
  • Post #24 - May 31st, 2012, 9:47 pm
    Post #24 - May 31st, 2012, 9:47 pm Post #24 - May 31st, 2012, 9:47 pm
    A good friend of mine and I are planning to take a two or three-day road trip into the Lexington/Bourbon County area a couple of weeks from now. Obviously, bourbon is our main reason for going out there, and food is also important. I have absolutely no experience with that part of the US, other than driving through it. Has anybody here done the bourbon distillery tours there, and, if so, which ones would you recommend. Also, if there's any good food on the way that we shouldn't miss, feel free to mention it. Is there any good barbecue in that part of Kentucky? I'm familiar with Owensboro barbecue, and did that a few years ago, but that's significantly west of where we're headed.
  • Post #25 - June 1st, 2012, 7:49 am
    Post #25 - June 1st, 2012, 7:49 am Post #25 - June 1st, 2012, 7:49 am
    I’ve had some great meals at this French-bistro-y place downtown called A La Lucie
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/a-la-lucie-lexington
    Notable menu items:
    Lobster Corn Dog
    Grilled Bourbon Tabasco Pork Chops: “Served with Corn Pudding and Topped with a Splash of Molasses”

    And for bourbon-themed Kentucky products,
    it’s hard to go wrong with this great stuff:
    Bourbon Vanilla Sorghum
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    I enjoyed the tour of the Woodford Reserve Distillery.
  • Post #26 - June 1st, 2012, 9:31 am
    Post #26 - June 1st, 2012, 9:31 am Post #26 - June 1st, 2012, 9:31 am
    Thanks to the mod who merged these threads. I could have sworn I searched before I posted, but apparently not.
  • Post #27 - June 1st, 2012, 12:02 pm
    Post #27 - June 1st, 2012, 12:02 pm Post #27 - June 1st, 2012, 12:02 pm
    We made an abbreviated tour of three distilleries the week before last. If you are an RVer there is the Old Kentucky Home State Park right in Bardstown that is pretty nice. We stayed there. It happens to be practically next door to Heaven Hill. Heaven Hill's Heritage Center is outstanding. As mentioned it is a bit corporate. Enjoyable none the less. Our tour guide took the time to explain and demonstrate how adding just a drop or two of water to bourbon changes the whole taste and complexity of it and takes the sting out of it going down the throat. All the distilleries did the nose, sip, sit on tongue explanation of drinking and experiencing the tastes.

    Jim Beam and Maker's Mark are easy drives from Bardstown. Jim Beam is building a new building for tours. They do need to up their game to compete with Heaven Hill and Maker's Mark. The current tour building is probably inadequate. We sampled two bourbons. They were still pushing the Red Stag Black Cherry. It seems the young people are the ones driving all these boutique liquors. I had pretty much settled on Knob Creek as one of my go to bourbons. I kind of originally gravitated to it because its rectangular straight bottle is especially suited for storing in the limited cabinetry of a Class B camper van. :)

    The GPSes still aren't too smart about getting you to Maker's Mark. Do not use one! Just follow the signs. There was a sign right outside our campground so I knew the route. Only we were driving from Jim Beam to Maker's Mark so I decided to set the GPS to get us there. Once back to Bardstown it sent us down some of the narrowest winding up and down roads imaginable. It was paved but I doubt it was much more than 12-15 foot wide. Fortunately for over a dozen miles we encountered only one very small car. The last segment of the route was Maker's Mark Drive. It may have been the shortest, or fastest, or scenic or whatever, but...

    The Maker's Mark facilities were outstanding and the tour was the most complete of the three. I did the dip my own bottle of Maker's Mark 46. The tasting now does three glasses, the white dog before aging, Maker's Mark and Maker's Mark 46.

    We had lunch one day and dinner the next day at Old Talbott Tavern right downtown. It dates to 1779 and is interesting in itself. It also has a tasting room offering I believe 47 different bourbons if I counted right. Just a block and around the corner west of the tavern was a liquor store stocked with just about every bourbon imaginable. So, our bourbon needs were pretty much met right in Bardstown. The distilleries all sell their bourbons but they do not discount them. They sell at full retail.
  • Post #28 - June 1st, 2012, 6:06 pm
    Post #28 - June 1st, 2012, 6:06 pm Post #28 - June 1st, 2012, 6:06 pm
    When I moved to KY, I wanted the same time commute I had in NE. That gave me an amazing range. The house I first wanted was in Bardstown. My parents (Proper Bostonian, more to the story on request) were very unhappy about my choice. I went into a local booze shop to ask for bottles to send to them to help them realize that at least decent alcohol was made where I was moving to. The owner of the shop pointed to a whole wall(!) of bottles and asked if I could afford it. (NO!)

    I now own a house (due to the woman I married who insisted we keep her parent's house) where we almost overlook Woodford Distillery. To be honest, everyone has to go to the area to see the horse farms (Versailles) and what heaven on earth is like.

    I mentioned in another thread where I almost bought the house where Col. Sanders invented the famous recipe in shelbyville, KY. I was offered the old place where the origional owner of Maker's had in a brief time when it was on the market and I refused due to the price.

    If you get the chance, do the Bourbon trail, please also know before you go who is private and who is owned by a major. Also go to the Kentucky Horse park. The silver is amazing. If you like silver as well, there is a place in Shelbyville KY that is awesome.

    For the folks that like steaks, Columbia's is my wife's favorite in Lexington. I consider it average, but it is considered the place to go by many locals. YMMV.
  • Post #29 - June 2nd, 2012, 9:35 am
    Post #29 - June 2nd, 2012, 9:35 am Post #29 - June 2nd, 2012, 9:35 am
    I only briefly visited the Wofford distillery and found their tour very interesting and the grounds beautiful.

    Nearby in Midway, Ky is Wallace Station for good sandwiches, burgers and bean soup. Also in Midway is Holly Hill Inn, which I have heard is good but have not personally been.

    In Shelbyville there are also some good options, but this is a bit closer to Louisville:
    Science Hill Inn, very historic, southern food
    Claudia Sanders, fried chicken, southern food
    Homemade Ice Cream and Pie Kitchen, outpost of a Louisville based dessert shop, amazing pies

    In Frankfort, there is a lunch place called Gibbys that is pretty old as well that I visited, don't think it was better than good.
  • Post #30 - June 2nd, 2012, 3:18 pm
    Post #30 - June 2nd, 2012, 3:18 pm Post #30 - June 2nd, 2012, 3:18 pm
    Curse you Guy Fieri!

    A few years ago I just happened to be in Frankfort KY for a conference. Meandering around in search of a bite to eat, I found a very cool diner. But I couldn't remember the name, but I remembered where it was in town. So I just now google mapped the place and Bingo! there it is: White Light Diner. On to google, see if there's any discussion: yup, Yelp, Urbanspoon and all the others rated it well. And one of the blurbs notes that Triple-D had already been there, with solid ratings. Anyway, it looks like it's still worth visiting; be sure to try the white beans and ham!

    Geo
    PS. There's a Louisville thread that joins up with this one nicely: it's not a far piece twixt Bardstown and Loua-vuhl, and in town, Bardstown Rd. means *great* fun of all sorts!
    Sooo, you like wine and are looking for something good to read? Maybe *this* will do the trick! :)

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