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    Post #1 - January 13th, 2011, 7:19 pm
    Post #1 - January 13th, 2011, 7:19 pm Post #1 - January 13th, 2011, 7:19 pm
    Hi All,

    Some may ( or may not) remember/recognize me from the Chowhound board. I am headed to Chicago in March and have a reservation at Alinea. I am a mega foodie and this is a HUGE deal for me. My date....not so much. She just doesn't understand the appeal or draw of this food and likened it to a really funky craft beer that someone "pretends to get" to feel cultured. I don't even know where to start with this one. She is being a "good sport" about it and knows it means so much to me. But how do I even begin to describe the experience, philosophy, or vision of Alinea to an outsider?
  • Post #2 - January 13th, 2011, 7:38 pm
    Post #2 - January 13th, 2011, 7:38 pm Post #2 - January 13th, 2011, 7:38 pm
    The best explanation of Alinea I've seen, one that even non-foodies can appreciate, is the comic strip on this website.
  • Post #3 - January 13th, 2011, 7:44 pm
    Post #3 - January 13th, 2011, 7:44 pm Post #3 - January 13th, 2011, 7:44 pm
    Image
    If I have to explain . . . by kmankmankman2001, on Flickr
    Objects in mirror appear to be losing.
  • Post #4 - January 13th, 2011, 9:22 pm
    Post #4 - January 13th, 2011, 9:22 pm Post #4 - January 13th, 2011, 9:22 pm
    nsxtasy wrote:The best explanation of Alinea I've seen, one that even non-foodies can appreciate, is the comic strip on this website.


    Goodness, that is spot on!
  • Post #5 - January 13th, 2011, 9:54 pm
    Post #5 - January 13th, 2011, 9:54 pm Post #5 - January 13th, 2011, 9:54 pm
    "Fucking. Expensive"
    "By the fig, the olive..." Surat Al-Teen, Mecca 95:1"
  • Post #6 - January 13th, 2011, 10:12 pm
    Post #6 - January 13th, 2011, 10:12 pm Post #6 - January 13th, 2011, 10:12 pm
    Put yourself in the shoes of the first Frenchman who was served a chicken cooked in a pig's bladder. Was it a gimmick? At a certainly layer of abstraction, of course it is, but there is a definite culinary purpose, and the preparation has endured and is now the epitome of a classic French dish. I would say you experience the very same phenomenon at Alinea. There is no gimmick for gimmick's sake. Everything has a reason.

    I'll add that to me it is worth every penny, and that includes whatever they charge these days for wine. It's the only restaurant in the world where I consider the wine pairing mandatory.
  • Post #7 - January 14th, 2011, 7:30 am
    Post #7 - January 14th, 2011, 7:30 am Post #7 - January 14th, 2011, 7:30 am
    Let me cut-and-paste from my first review.

    Gypsy Boy wrote:
    dddane wrote:Word of caution: a good amount of what Alinea is all about is surprise. Is too much press a bad thing? Possibly. If you’re planning to go, I wouldn’t spend a lot of time reading reviews, looking at pictures, reading press articles. It ruins some of the surprise and takes some of the fun away…. I feel as though I would have benefited slightly by knowing a little less prior to going.

    That was the single best piece of advice I received before going and I’m especially glad I took it to heart. And for precisely the same reasons, I will invoke dddane’s closing words from the opening paragraph: “If you haven’t been but plan to go, you might skip over the next few paragraphs…—I’d hate to ruin any surprises you may experience. I feel as though I would have benefited slightly by knowing a little less prior to going.” Amen.

    Despite my insistence that I had absolutely no interest in trying Grant Achatz’s brand of high-tech cuisine, the Lovely Dining Companion knows me better than I do myself and so we went last Saturday. In retrospect, it having been Yom Kippur, I can safely say that I can’t imagine a better way to break a day-long fast (on one’s birthday) than to eat at Alinea.

    I was more than skeptical, I was downright opposed to trying Alinea. Why? Because several years ago, at the annual Food & Wine bash at the MOCA, I tried some cockamamie invention on an impossibly high-tech “skewer.” The skewer reminded me simultaneously of the pins they use to display butterflies and some Tom Swift-y gizmo that he’d copped from the hospital. The food was decidedly not to my taste—so much so that I’ve completely blocked any memory of what it even was. I’ll take my food the old-fashioned way, thank you. Identifiable items served on good old-fashioned plates, with forks and knives!

    Silly me.

    Since we came back from Alinea, I’ve done quite a bit of reading about Achatz and about Alinea. The best piece has been Corby Kummer’s piece, “The Alchemist.” That it appears in a magazine entitled Technology Review is precisely the kind of information that would have confirmed me in my ignorant opinion had I known of it before we went. If you’ve been to Alinea and haven’t read it, I’d urge you to do so. It’s remarkably insightful. If you haven’t been, let me emphasize dddane’s suggestion above: the less you know the better. While foreknowledge won’t ruin your meal, an essential element of dining at Alinea is the theatricality involved.


    I still feel pretty much the same way, but if someone is curious and wants to read something before going, Kummer's essay is still the best introduction I've read.
    Gypsy Boy

    "I am not a glutton--I am an explorer of food." (Erma Bombeck)
  • Post #8 - January 14th, 2011, 7:44 am
    Post #8 - January 14th, 2011, 7:44 am Post #8 - January 14th, 2011, 7:44 am
    Oh that cartoon is priceless. As I said in another thread, I am all for going to Alinea and my immediate family is too. Frankly I won't much mention it to other parts of my family as they will probably freak out (not that its any of their business) because its so expensive. Some of my friends will probably think I am nuts for spending so much money......food is fuel for them and not so important.

    I'm assuming the girlfriend will be going along to Alinea. You'll certainly have something to talk about for a while...what shape that conversation takes could be interesting.
    Toria

    "I like this place and willingly could waste my time in it" - As You Like It,
    W. Shakespeare
  • Post #9 - January 14th, 2011, 8:04 am
    Post #9 - January 14th, 2011, 8:04 am Post #9 - January 14th, 2011, 8:04 am
    I am so glad that no one has said "get another girlfriend." That's sort of an inevitable LTH response and I'm heartened it wasn't actually foreordained that someone would say it. I like the implicit acceptance of the truth that it's possible for partners to be compatible in important ways that don't happen to include foodiness. OK, carry on.
  • Post #10 - January 14th, 2011, 8:15 am
    Post #10 - January 14th, 2011, 8:15 am Post #10 - January 14th, 2011, 8:15 am
    Well I was going to say ditch the date and take me, but I don't want to dissapoint riddlemay. :D
  • Post #11 - January 14th, 2011, 8:21 am
    Post #11 - January 14th, 2011, 8:21 am Post #11 - January 14th, 2011, 8:21 am
    I tried to explain the allure of Alinea to my non-foodie girlfriend for a long time to no avail. She thought it wouldn't be worth the money. Finally I just made reservations and took her there on her birthday. Months later she is still talking about that meal, she even wants us to try making some of the dishes that we had which are in the Alinea cookbook. I may have created a monster.
    Cookingblahg.blogspot.com

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