With so little left time in the process, I thought I'd put in one last good word for Le Titi de Paris.

While there has been little activity since the GNRs went "live" (only JamieG and nsxtasy showing loyal support in this thread), the number of "hits this thread has taken is certainly impressive, showing considerable interest, even if it didn't translate into actual posts.

Jygach hasn't commented here, but she told me in person she was impressed. Does that count? Or just posts? (I do think folks in the suburbs seem to be more subdued than some of our urban counterparts when it comes to posting and even photographing food.)

In my "build up to GNR" post, wesuilmo, nxstasy, and eggplant gave the place enthusiastic endorsements -- with comments about frequent visits over the years.

In an earlier post (among those listed above), even when GypsyBoy had a bad time, he still said the food was great. GAF and LAZ also both gave the place a nod as being a good place, and Dutch7 made a pitch for the wine dinners.

In a July discussion of reliable French restaurants, RyanDe680 stated that Le Titi has "excellent French food." (I will add that it's not Le Francais or Carlos', but it doesn't pretend to be or even try to be. And hey, even Le Francais isn't Le Francais anymore.) Once again, nxstasy stepped in and agreed with a good opinion of Le Titi -- so clearly I'm not alone in being a long-time enthusiast (it's just that nxstasy has nominated another place).

In June, zr posted about a great meal at Le Titi -- and mentioned in particular that the souffle was great. (Too bad the one served during the "official LTH board dinner" was not up to par.) And zr in turn was sent there by nr706, who gave it a rating of "excellent" on June 4, 2007.

So while the quieter nature of the suburban population has seemed to show that Le Titi (or anywhere this far out for that matter) doesn't have a lot of support, the tally is up to 12 people who have said Le Titi has good food and is worth a visit, several who have been enthusiastic, and one (nxstasy) who has been nearly as faithful in endorsing Le Titi as I have.

I don't know if that's enough of a "track record" to keep Le Titi in the running, since the official dinner was underwhelming (though at least a couple of us had great dinners that night), but I figured it was worth a try.

Some weeks back I had the pleasure of having lunch at Le Titi with a friend.
Le Titi offers lunch specials
Two Courses: $16
Three Courses: $19
One can choose from three daily soup specials, six or seven entrees, and a "symphony of desserts."

I opted for the Seared Balsamic Vinaigrette Beef Tenderloin. The tenderloin was cooked to a perfect medium-rare, just as requested. The sauce accompanying the tenderloin was a cross between an au jus and a thicker sauce. It offered excellent flavor without overpowering the tender, flavorful meat. The meat was paired with a Composed Salad of Mixed Greens with Aged Balasamic Vinaigrette. The mixed greens were enhanced with some ripe berries, asparagus, and toasted walnuts and the vinaigrette had just the right touch of acidity.

The dessert sampler on that particular day included a cold lemon mousse, a creme brulee, and a dense chocolate petit four. All were well executed and offered a variety of flavors and textures.

My friend elected to have the seasonal special - Bouillabaisse. This, is not a dish that generally appeals to me. More often than not, the broth lacks depth of flavor and is too thin and watery. This rendition was fabulous - one of the best I have had. There was a rich mix of seafood, the broth had a lush flavor and texture, and the accompanying rouille was a well-balanced blend of garlic, saffron and heat.

All in all, a delightful luncheon experience - one I would highly recommend to anyone seeking a high end lunch experience for a moderate price.

I thought I'd give an update, we had lunch there today with my daughter, a freshman in HS, who just finished her first semester of finals and got an A in honors french. Was looking at several of the N/NW suburban options earlier today, but D&J and Retro Bistros both didn't seem real popular with LTHers.

Anyway, lunch was lovely, we weren't terribly adventurous but had the express lunch, 3 courses for $19. Had to upgrade to the lobster bisque which was very tasty and had some very visible chunks of lobster (unlike the one over the weekend at Tramonto's which had chunks of potato but no lobster ). The entree comes plated with a salad, I had beef tenderloin with balsamic vinaigrette, had loads of mushrooms as well as some sauteed peppers (red and yellow) and some teeny sliced fingerling potatos. Not a large portion by any means but perfect for lunch. The meat was tender and tasty, the gravy addicting. Dessert was a trio, including a raspberry sorbet, an almond praline thingy (chewy, on a bit of a crust) and a petite creme brulee. All were delicious, though the creme brulee was very liquid-y at the bottom of the mini souffle cup. I've never had that before, don't know if it means anything but I elected not to scoop up that last little bit.

Service was very all right, we were offered second rolls but not fresh ground pepper, water was replenished and Chef Maddox was very visible through the meal. Strangest thing was that after the bill was paid the staff seemed to disappear and there was no one around as we walked out. Not an issue for us but I expected a bit more personal touch. Still I would definitely recommend Le Titi for someone looking for French in the burbs.

Apologies if this should be merged into another thread- last time I searched I didn't find a specific thread to tack this on to. Mods- feel free to merge this in if it fits better elsewhere.

Last weekend we were unable to make it down to the city to go to dinner at NoMI for dinner due to a family emergency, though we were fortunate enough to get out for a night to go to Le Titi de Paris. My wife had grown up in the area and had never been there (and spent many teenage years laughing at the name).

We arrived and were promptly greeted and seated. The dining room is comfortable and reminds me a little bit of what Restaurant Eve's tasting room in Alexandria, VA used to look like. I also noticed we were younger than anyone in the dining room by about 20 years (that never bothers us).

The service through and through was excellent, friendly, warm, inviting and attentive.

We ordered the pate/rillettes/etc. plate all of which was excellent. I think that dijon mustard put some new hair on my chest. We also ordered the Brique of duck confit with boursin and various other elements. Again, very good though extremely rich. The boursin and confit along with the sauce overwhelmed the other elements, but still very good.

For salads we had the Watercress and Field Greens with Toasted Goat Cheese which was one of the best composed salads I've had in a long time. Excellent balance of flavors and textures with bitter and sweet notes. My wife had the mesculun greens salad which I didn't taste but she said was very good.

For mains she had the lobster and scallops which was so big she couldn't finish it and I had the hunters plate which was excellent, but also so big I couldn't finish it.

We both had souffles (lemon and chocolate) which again were excellent.

All in all the food at Le Titi de Paris is killer, and it's worth a trip for the service alone, but one very general comment- their portion sizes are WAY too big. It's really impossible to order a la carte and to eat a reasonably sized dinner. I could have had a salad and an appetizer and that might have even been too much food for me (and I can pack it away when I'm hungry, which I was). Also, just a hint to others going there- don't bother ordering the CA wines- most are really overpriced (Clayhouse Adobo Red for $46? Seriously?) but there are tons of bargains to be had on the French list.

I guess portion size being an issue depends on whether you're saving room for dessert (I don't) or dislike taking home a doggy bag. I really don't mind having a little something the next day to remind me of my splendid meal.

That said, I have made an entire meal of appetizers -- just tell them the order in which you want them served. They are most accommodating.

Hi,

I was at Le Titi de Paris for dinner last night. What is still on my mind was a half inch cube of housemade jelly candy rolled in salt. I have to make these for myself.

I found the staff to be very service oriented, considerate and polite. I was there for a banquet, rather than their regular service. When I needed my main course held back a few minutes while I gave a small talk. The agreed, then brought my plate promptly when I sat down.

I look forward to returning for a regular meal service sometime.

Regards,

Just had a lovely lunch at Le Titi. I'd gone thinking I'd opt for the $16 express lunch, but a few dishes were so lovingly described by our enthusiastic waiter, we decided to go a la carte. The pumpkin and butternut squash soup garnished with sweet corn and sweet red peppers was surprisingly light and very flavorful. The mesclun salad with little French haricots verts and tarragon vinaigrette was perky and refreshing. The main course was the star of the meal: Dover sole meuniere with a rich champagne butter sauce was simply splendid. Helping to offset the richness was a nice little assortment of seasonal veggies: sauteed broccoli, zucchini stuffed with ratatouille, and sweet potato puree flavored with orange. A really splendid dish. The sole was perfectly cooked, and the sauce was decadently rich.

Staff was charming and attentive, and they didn't bat an eyelash when we sat and talked for an extra hour. In fact, they happily kept our ice tea glasses full the whole time.

I was pleased to see that they were fairly busy at lunch. It's such a reliably good place, charming in appearance and friendly in atmosphere, with relatively reasonable prices for what you get.

And next month, Bouillabaise season begins at Le Titi. Can't wait.

I've always loved the food at Le Titi, going back to the Pierre Pouland days. However, I haven't been there for about a year because the service was getting spotty. I'll have to try it again, with these good reviews.

John Danza wrote:I've always loved the food at Le Titi, going back to the Pierre Pouland days. However, I haven't been there for about a year because the service was getting spotty. I'll have to try it again, with these good reviews.

They went through a rough patch, as far as service goes, but they seem to have gotten a really good crew together now -- lots of charm and enthusiasm. And there are still a few folks from the Pierre Pollin era. It's very nice, but also really friendly.

Le Titi de Paris has been nominated as a Great Neighborhood Restaurant. Please discuss the nomination in this thread. Discussion ends on March 7.

-for the GNRs

Cynthia wrote:I nominated Le Titi several years ago, and it was passed over on the grounds that it was not the most outstanding French restaurant in the area.

I think that by reading through this thread, one can see that the above is not really the reason Le Titi was passed over last time. It was passed over because there was a spotty track record, and then a number of people went for dinner and didn't love it. 8 posts and 3 years later, it does not appear to me that much has changed.

I completely and enthusiastically support the GNR nomination of Le Titi de Paris.

I've been to Le Titi de Paris several times in the past couple of years. Most recently I had dinner there a week and a half ago, on Saturday night (Jan 29). I thought it was superb in every possible way. I went there in part because they were participating in the Restaurant Week promotion from Chicago, with three courses for $29.11. (As it happens, they offer a similar menu on an ongoing basis Sundays through Thursdays for $32.) Everything I had was fantastic! The "Maine Lobster and Peeky Toe Crab Galette, Creamed Leeks and Organic Red Chard, Rouille Sauce" was just superb, nicely flavored and brimming with seafood. The "Sautéed Sea Scallops with Creamy Garden Pumpkin, Parmesan and Scallion Risotto, Champagne Chive Sauce" were also excellent. I loved the "Trilogy of Desserts: Tahitian Scented Crème Brulée, Bittersweet Chocolate Gateau & Raspberry Sorbet". And the complimentary sorbet intermezzo (ruby red grapefruit, IIRC) was another nice touch. Our server, Pepe, was very knowledgeable as well as having an enthusiastic and humorous personality, the kind of combination I remember fondly from Le Francais back in the day, just adding to the perfect upscale restaurant experience. So the entire experience was superb, the equal of most of the best restaurants in the Chicago area. Furthermore, this dinner would have been a great value at twice the price; for $29.11, it was a steal!

Kennyz wrote:

Cynthia wrote:I nominated Le Titi several years ago, and it was passed over on the grounds that it was not the most outstanding French restaurant in the area.

I think that by reading through this thread, one can see that the above is not really the reason Le Titi was passed over last time. It was passed over because there was a spotty track record, and then a number of people went for dinner and didn't love it. 8 posts and 3 years later, it does not appear to me that much has changed.

I'm not sure I see how you think that nothing has changed. Every post for 2010 was positive, and the only complaint was that portions were too large.

But as I noted, since the GNR nominations say that a restaurant is judged on more than just its food, I think Le Titi can be judged on their tremendous job of being a neighborhood spot, even if you don't fall in love with a specific meal.

Cynthia wrote:I'm not sure I see how you think that nothing has changed. Every post for 2010 was positive, and the only complaint was that portions were too large.

But as I noted, since the GNR nominations say that a restaurant is judged on more than just its food, I think Le Titi can be judged on their tremendous job of being a neighborhood spot, even if you don't fall in love with a specific meal.

I only see 3 people in 2010 that reported eating a meal at Le Titi. That's what I mean by nothing's changed - for whatever reason, it still isn't a place that's widely discussed here. I think that's the most important criterion for GNR's. There are a ton of great places in Chicagoland that are not GNR candidates. It's nothing to do with a lack of greatness, just a lack of LTHForum posts.

it still isn't a place that's widely discussed here. I think that's the most important criterion for GNR's. There are a ton of great places in Chicagoland that are not GNR candidates. It's nothing to do with a lack of greatness, just a lack of LTHForum posts.

So Five Guys and it's 800 pages of posts is a GNR?

Actually 12 pages and 359 posts but the food is so awful it seems like that many.

2007:

nsxtasy wrote:Although I have nominated another restaurant, I support the nomination of Le Titi de Paris as well. I've eaten there several times over the years.

2011:

nsxtasy wrote:I completely and enthusiastically support the GNR nomination of Le Titi de Paris.

I've been to Le Titi de Paris several times in the past couple of years. . . .

But it's hard to figure out if a place is deserving of a GNR if the people who actually eat there never report on any of their meals. If you've eaten there so many times over the course of 5 or more years, why have you never once posted your thoughts in this forum which is dedicated to sharing restaurant experiences? Personally, I don't feel qualified to comment on LTdP since I haven't been there in a number of years - although I do have very good memories from the past. But I have the same concerns about this nomination as Kennyz.

BR wrote:If you've eaten there so many times over the course of 5 or more years, why have you never once posted your thoughts in this forum which is dedicated to sharing restaurant experiences?

Funny, I thought I just posted about my recent dinner there, and you've quoted an earlier post in which I previously shared my thoughts about Le Titi. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else!

It's interesting -- and has been commented on before -- but, with a few very notable exceptions, the suburban contingent does seem to be quieter. I don't know if that's because the same thing that draws us to the quieter environment makes us less likely to post, if we're all working longer hours (I know that, for me, LTH gets pushed to the back burner when I'm on deadline), or if we have a lower tolerance for controversy.

However, I think it's mostly just demographics. It appears that the majority of LTHers live and/or work in the city. Statistically, a very small percentage of any group responds to surveys, requests for information, or such. So if we assume even higher than the average response rate and say 5 percent of members participate regularly, 5 percent of the much larger city crowd would constitute a much higher number than 5 percent of the smaller and far more widely dispersed suburban group.

So I suspect a restaurant this far out that generates a huge amount of buzz on the board will be less common than if it were closer, and will need to be more exceptional than the same restaurant if it were more centrally located.

Conversely, there are a tremendous number of GNRs I have yet to experience, or have only experienced once, because it's only occasionally that I feel that a place or event (I'm always happier to jump in the car if I'm meeting people somewhere) warrants a 35-mile drive. At Le Titi, which is five minutes from my home, I can curl up in the corner with a book, order an express lunch, and they'll just keep bringing me ice tea for a couple of hours, whenever I want to just sit and read. But I wouldn't do that regularly if I lived 35 miles away. Part of the reason I think of it as a great neighborhood restaurant is because they are great neighbors -- and they're my neighbors.

So if we don't get enough folks who live out this way to comment on the dandy cooking classes, fun kids programs, wine dinners, farmers markets visits, and other things that make this a great place to have in the neighborhood, I'll certainly understand. It won't change my feelings for the place. My affection for Le Titi has developed over decades. I don't believe any place can be decided based on one experience -- and that goes for some of the official GNRs I have visited, not just Le Titi. For those of us who live out this way, Le Titi has been a great neighbor for 35 years, and we'll continue to enjoy having it nearby.

Cynthia raises a good point about criteria. If we judge Le Titi de Paris on cuisine alone it doesn't quite rise to the level of the best fine dining in Chicago (this is no Carlos, no Trotter's, no Avenues - none of which are GNRs, and it is probably not quite at the level of Naha or Blackbird and other similar restaurants). I say this even though I enjoy the food, but I rarely go because of the drive. The real question is less about the "great" than the "great neighborhood" and this is something that I can't answer not being a neighbor. Despite its real charm and congeniality, Le Titi is not really destination dining. But it is almost Valentine's Day, and on that day Le Titi will shine.

GAF wrote:If we judge Le Titi de Paris on cuisine alone it doesn't quite rise to the level of the best fine dining in Chicago (this is no Carlos, no Trotter's, no Avenues - none of which are GNRs, and it is probably not quite at the level of Naha or Blackbird and other similar restaurants).

I disagree with this statement. I consider the food there above the level of almost all of our "casual fine dining" restaurants such as Naha or Blackbird. As for our best fine dining restaurants, the comparison is probably an unfair one, since most of them offer lengthy tasting menus that cost many times what a dinner at Le Titi does; however, I have eaten $30ish Restaurant Week promotions within the past couple of years at both Carlos and Le Titi, and I would be hard pressed to choose which was better (both featured outstanding food as well as excellent value). Yes, IMHO, Le Titi de Paris is indeed that good.

GAF wrote:Despite its real charm and congeniality, Le Titi is not really destination dining.

But it is destination dining for many of us that don't live closer to the city.

wesuilmo wrote:

GAF wrote:Despite its real charm and congeniality, Le Titi is not really destination dining.

But it is destination dining for many of us that don't live closer to the city.

While this may be entirely true, this appears to be your first post on this thread. An important aspect of the GNRs is that they are supposed to represent places that resonate with our community. If people don't post about the places they really love, there's no way to know whether or not they resonate with anyone. So, for all you fans of LTdP (and any other favorite places, for that matter), let's hear about your dining experiences!

=R=

Le Titi de Paris, in my opinion, does offer a very enjoyable dining option in the suburbs. The menu is somewhat conservative in nature, but each dish is well prepared and flavorful. Their daily lunch express special offers three courses for $18 which is really a bargain. Renditions of some dishes such as bouillabaisse have been outstanding. Service has always been warm and hospitable and the chef is more than willing to accommodate special requests.

I don’t think it is fair to compare it to restaurants in the city as it caters to a totally different clientele. So, you will certainly not find molecular cuisine here or avant-garde food combinations. What you will find is competently prepared traditional French cuisine. Additionally, Le Titi offers a great many other food-related events such as cooking classes for children and adults. For all these reasons, I think it does merit consideration for a GNR.

ronnie_suburban wrote:

wesuilmo wrote:

GAF wrote:Despite its real charm and congeniality, Le Titi is not really destination dining.

But it is destination dining for many of us that don't live closer to the city.

While this may be entirely true, this appears to be your first post on this thread. An important aspect of the GNRs is that they are supposed to represent places that resonate with our community. If people don't post about the places they really love, there's no way to know whether or not they resonate with anyone. So, for all you fans of LTdP (and any other favorite places, for that matter), let's hear about your dining experiences!

You’re correct, I haven’t written about my experiences there. I know I started to after my last dinner but I apparently never posted it.

I used to work about a block from Le Titi de Paris and tried to have lunch there at least once a month. Never in seven years was the food ever less than outstanding and only once was the service ever less than very good. One of my favorites, only available during the winter on certain days was the cassoulet.

When we’ve had guests from out of town for a very special occasion, Le Titi de Paris has always been our go to place. Last spring we had nine people and they never missed a beat. They accommodated a couple of special requests and added at least two amuse-bouche and when they heard what we were celebrating presented a custom made dessert.

My brother, who knows way more about wine than I do, was very happy with their suggestions and prices.

Le Titi de Paris is certainly a GNR for this neighborhood.

While my most recent meal at Le Titi followed a fun class on sauces (including how to rescue broken sauces), many of my favorite meals have been the Tour de France Gastronomique dinners. While I can't make every one, I always try to make the Alsace dinner. The menu from the most recent Alsace dinner follows, along with the wines served with the meal.

Canapé: Chilled Cream of Local Watercress Soup
2005 Pinot D'Alsace, Domain Bott-Geyl

Chilled Foie Gras Terrine with Garden Lettuces, Port Wine Syrup, Apricot & Ginger Preserves
2005 Pinot Blanc, Domaine Bruno Hunold

Warm Tarte Lorraine, Caramelized Vidalia Onions, Home-Cured Bacon, and Gruyere Cheese, with Thyme Beurre Blanc (really amazing)
2007 Kuentz-Bas (grapes: Pinot Blank, Sylvaner, and Muscat) -- like perfume -- roses and spice and a bit of lychee - yum

Blood Orange Sorbet

Wild Mushroom and Sun-Dried Tomato Crusted Pork Loin on Braised Red Cabbage, Natural Jus
2003 Domaine Marcel Deiss "Burlenberg" Premier Cru -- a red wine, pinot noir grapes -- oh, baby

Munster Cheese (the original, stinky French stuff, not the kind from Wisconsin) with Toasted Cumin Seeds and Toast Points -- the Munster and Cumin were unbelievably good together
2006 Ostertaag Gewurztraminer -- incredibly fragrant -- you almost didn't need to drink it, the fragrance was so glorious (but don't worry -- I did drink it)

Bittersweet Dark Chocolate and Brandied Cherry Tart
Coffee

All -- food and wine -- for $85 (plus tax and tip). And portions are sufficiently large that no one goes home hungry. So definitely good value, but also a fun education in French regional cooking. They do all the regions, including some of the lesser known ones. Plus there is always someone knowledgeable on hand to talk about the wine being served. Maybe it's because I'm an information junkie, but I love that.

Another thing I love about these wine dinners is that I have the opportunity to get introduced to things I might never have considered ordering. It was at one of these dinners, about 10 years ago, that I first had veal cheeks. And I would not have discovered some of my favorite wines, as well.

So I'm definitely glad this place is in my neck of the woods.

I posted in this thread before? I didn't remember. Had to go back and look. Grrr... here's what happens when you stop paying attention to a conversation:

Darren72 wrote:

Dutch7 wrote:
One of the best times to go to Le Titi is the last Friday of the month where they have "Tour de France Gastronomique Regional Dinners." They feature a certain region of France with both wine and food. $78/person +tax/gratuity (more for the Champaign region) And the Maitre d', Marcel breaks out his guitar and strums out some tunes... More than worth it...

I hope you mean the Champagne region.
Darren72
Part-year resident,
Champaign, IL

Katie
Former 12-yr Champaign resident
Wines weren't as good as I thought they would be

Cynthia wrote:

mhill95149 wrote:

Katie wrote:Wines weren't as good as I thought they would be

Hard to do a nice meal AND wine for $78 a head at a place like lTdP
You may end up with some interesting pairing but you will not be
drinking any bottle that would retail for over $20.

Yeah. It's accessible, but not stunning. There is usually one really good one for the evening, and the rest are pleasant, and may introduce you to something you haven't had before -- both in wine and food. (I first had veal cheeks, sweetbreads, and myriad other delicacies at these wine dinners -- not things I would have ordered off the menu, but I was delighted to try them, and veal cheeks in particular have become a favorite food item.)

Also, in perspective, at Alinea, the wine paring alone, without food, costs more than the six-course meal with wine at Le Titi.

I was talking about the wines of the Champaign (Illinois) region, not the wines of Le Titi de Paris.

Katie wrote:I posted in this thread before? I didn't remember. Had to go back and look. Grrr... here's what happens when you stop paying attention to a conversation:

Katie
Former 12-yr Champaign resident
Wines weren't as good as I thought they would be

I was talking about the wines of the Champaign (Illinois) region, not the wines of Le Titi de Paris.

A friend of mine has as his tag line "Communication is unlikely, if you know what I mean." Sorry to have missed the fun jest.

This month's wine dinners are "The True Loves of Italy" Hosted by James Crooker on Feb. 18 and "Burgundy" Hosted by Marcel Flori on Feb. 25 -- both $85 (plus tax and tip).

Also upcoming is the annual foie gras dinner On March, which is $125 per person (this one doesn't include wine).

And for those who love Bouillabaisse, that is on offer Tue - Feb 15 -- Sun - Feb 27 and Tue - Mar 15 -- Thur Mar 31 (it alternates with another seasonal favorite, cassoulet, but for me, the bouillabaisse is a bigger draw).

Here's the calendar page for more events and classes: http://www.letitideparis.com/calendar.php

But what I was thinking is that, if anyone here is interested, we might get a group together for one of the two upcoming wine dinners. Here are the menus for these two, upcoming meals: https://letitideparis.com/winedinnermenu.htm -- Burgundy would be my preference (since I can't do both).

Let me know if there is any interest.

It seems to me that if we are to consider Le Titi as a GNR, it cannot be on food alone. It needs to be as a "neighborhood restaurant" with estimable food. Remember Alinea is not a GNR, Trotters is not. Neither are Tru, Carlos, Naha, Avenues, Blackbird, and others that are more deserving in strict culinary terms that Le Titi - and this is said as someone who does enjoy Le Titi. If Le Titi is a GNR it is because of the service it provides within its neighborhood and to its neighbors. The high end dining places that are GNRs are restaurants in their social side - and perhaps their connection to this community - are evidently GNRs, places like Moto, Vie, the late Mado, or Avec. So I am not arguing against awarding Le Titi a GNR, but I am skeptical about awarding a GNR on the weight of their special dinners or culinary expertise alone.

I took a cheese class once at Le Titi and had a great time. We were treated to a lovely lunch afterwards. That being said, if a GNR is supposed to resonate with the LTH community at large, then I just don't see how Le Titi clears that bar.