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    Post #1 - April 15th, 2011, 3:00 pm
    Post #1 - April 15th, 2011, 3:00 pm Post #1 - April 15th, 2011, 3:00 pm
    This is a thread started on request to talk about kosher eats in Chicago. I'll kick it off with a little primer on what kosher dining is, and add two of my local favorite places.

    Many people might assume that delis like Max and Benny's, The Bagel, or Manny's are kosher. That's where many people would be wrong -- those types of places are "kosher-style." (Hint: If a restaurant is open on Saturday morning, it's not kosher!)

    For true kosher eats, you need to have a kosher certification. Kosher certification ensures that the Jewish dietary laws known as "kashrut" (pronounced KOSH-root) are followed. The main thing you will notice about a kosher restaurant is that they will serve either dairy dishes or meat dishes, but not both. If you'd like to know why, you can ask a rabbi, or check this out: http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm. Suffice to say, if you keep kosher in a strict manner, you will only eat at kosher-certified restaurants.

    Kosher certification can be fraught with controversy; some people will accept one rabbi's independent certification, others will not. The main certifying body in Chicago is the Chicago Rabbinical Council (cRc), and I've yet to hear anyone question their authority.

    A few things to keep in mind when you're dining out at a kosher place:
    • You will pay more for kosher food -- especially at a kosher meat place
    • You will not necessarily get the red-carpet treatment--I don't know what it is, and I hate to knock my own tribe, but kosher restaurants can be lacking in the service department. Perhaps they figure with a captive audience who HAS to eat kosher, they can slack in the service/ambience/pleasantness. Just keep it in mind, and as they say YMMV.
    • You may feel like a stranger in a strange land. The kosher-dining subculture is quite observant, so you will see women with heads covered, girls and boys in modest dress, and men with wide-brimmed black hats, long dark coats and beards.
    • Do not attempt to eat at a kosher place from about 3pm on Friday through Saturday. In the winter, some places may open late after the sun sets on Saturday. Kosher restaurants will always observe Shabbat.

    So enough background, what are some good places for kosher food? Let me recommend two good Israeli-style (meat) restaurants:

    Mizrahi Grill
    215 Skokie Valley Rd. (Crossroads Shopping Center)
    Highland Park, IL
    847-831-1400
    Pitas, grilled meats, falafel, shwerma, salads, with fast counter service. I have heard from Israeli friends that this place is about as close to authentic to a falafel stand (albeit a little nicer decor) as you'd find in Israel. Service here is friendly and relatively efficient. The place can get quite busy and loud, especially on a Sunday evening. Recommended: the shawarma is a turkey/lamb mix that is moist and flavorful. Portions are generous.

    Taboun Grill
    8808 Gross Point Road (at Dempster St.)
    Skokie, IL, 60077
    847-965-1818
    Taboun is a sit-down place, with Middle-eastern food in a similar vein as Mizrahi. I think Taboun edges Mizrahi in the salad department, and I'm also a big fan of the beef special (tender beef chunks mixed with onions and mushrooms) and the chicken thighs. You can have most types of meat in either a pita or as an entree. Entrees are pricey, but quite generous - easily enough to split or have room for take home. Service can be slow, the place can be loud, but all in all, I think most people will enjoy it. Taboun also serves a white-bean soup every now and then that is delish.

    I could go on about some other kosher dining options, as I've tried nearly all of them. But I'll leave it open to people who have questions, suggestions, or need advice on kosher dining. I could include thoughts on kosher counter-service places such as bakeries, butchers or delis.

    Shabbat Shalom to you all!
    "You should eat!"
  • Post #2 - April 15th, 2011, 4:37 pm
    Post #2 - April 15th, 2011, 4:37 pm Post #2 - April 15th, 2011, 4:37 pm
    Thanks for posting! I did a search at Purim and was surprised to realize how few kosher bakeries and food purveyors Chicago supports, which probably explains the service issues.

    I look for kosher dining options mainly for entertaining visitors who keep kosher, so it's great to have reports on which are the best from someone who eats in them more often.

    I suspect that those of us who don't keep kosher all the time look for different things from a kosher restaurant than those who do. I'd think most LTHers would be interested in kosher restaurants that served good versions of Jewish foods, but less interested in kosher versions of other cuisines.
  • Post #3 - April 15th, 2011, 8:40 pm
    Post #3 - April 15th, 2011, 8:40 pm Post #3 - April 15th, 2011, 8:40 pm
    I may be as goy as they come, but I like ice cream, and Dairy Star in Lincolnwood is CrC certified for many of its offerings (and Cholov Yisroel is available). And they're officially open for the season!

    Shalom y'all,
    Vinny (the Methodist preacher's "wife")

    Dairy Star
    3472 W Devon Ave
    Lincolnwood IL 60712
    847-679-3472
  • Post #4 - April 18th, 2011, 11:18 am
    Post #4 - April 18th, 2011, 11:18 am Post #4 - April 18th, 2011, 11:18 am
    LAZ wrote:Thanks for posting! I did a search at Purim and was surprised to realize how few kosher bakeries and food purveyors Chicago supports, which probably explains the service issues.

    I look for kosher dining options mainly for entertaining visitors who keep kosher, so it's great to have reports on which are the best from someone who eats in them more often.

    I suspect that those of us who don't keep kosher all the time look for different things from a kosher restaurant than those who do. I'd think most LTHers would be interested in kosher restaurants that served good versions of Jewish foods, but less interested in kosher versions of other cuisines.


    As someone that doesn't keep strict kosher, but prefers meat dishes to not have pork or dairy in them as a personal redline, I'm not sure I'd agree with that. A kosher version of an Italian meat dish or an Indian one which is otherwise using authentic ingredients would be preferable to eating 'Jewish food' per se. I mean, we've been wanting to go to that Kazakh restaurant on Lincoln for a long time, but when I think of all the butter that's in the pilau, or the ghee in a biryani, it's a turnoff. But why should kosher-observant Jews have to settle for brisket, hanging tender and cholent anymore than non-Jews? Why can't they get a chicken cacciatore that doesn't have bacon in it, or a polenta that doesn't have cheese? Or a Greek youvetsi that's otherwise true to form, but doesn't have kaseri cheese on it?

    Actually, having travelled to Israel a few times, where the kosher places are generally more like typical ones here in atmosphere (except for the ones that cater to religious tourists or are high end dining experiences like 1869 in Jerusalem), I find Chicago to be the exception rather than the rule, even here in the US. You can go to Miami and get kosher Italian, Manhattan and get fantastic kosher Moroccan or Indian, LA and find kosher Persian and a trendy place like the Prime Grill, etc. One of the best Middle Eastern dinners we had anywhere was in Paris, at a hole in the wall kosher Tunisian place we literally stumbled into across the street from the hotel we were at. And it wasn't full of black hatters - rather a large number of attractive 20-something Parisians.

    What I think is true is that the Chicago observant community is more 'family oriented' than other cities, and for them, dining out is more of a special experience than it is in other Jewish communities; given the size of some families, I could see where 'value' is justified over 'atmosphere and quality'. Also, and this is just my opinion, less observant Jews than the Modern Orthodox aren't as into kosher Jewish dining as they might be in other cities. Maybe it's the perceived lack of variety, the locations being suburban (city Kosher places don't seem to have long shelf lives - ask Taboun or Shallots, for example), or poor marketing/outreach, but at least anecdotally, it looks that way.

    By the way, I'd personally put the less familiar Manghal (Howard and Kedzie, just across the Evanston side of the Chicago border with Evanston) ahead of Taboun thse days. They do a meza plate with about a half-dozen appetizers, and a killer pargit on a skewer that's the closest we've come from the way food is actually served in Israel.
  • Post #5 - April 18th, 2011, 11:51 am
    Post #5 - April 18th, 2011, 11:51 am Post #5 - April 18th, 2011, 11:51 am
    The obvious difficulty with Kosher dining anywhere is cost. Cost of ingredients (meat can be 3X as much as a non-kosher equivalent), supervision and reduced hours of operation (including Friday night). Only those with serious commitment (or poor math skills) would give opening a Kosher restaurant a shot. When a sandwich at a Kosher Subway can be $12 (and it's still Subway) then it makes a quick dinner for 4 close to $60 or $70. I doubt a family of 4 can walk out of Taboun (or the better Manghal) for under $80 - plus tip. And that's ordering at the very low end of the menu. Even mid-range ($15-$20 entrees) takes you over $100.

    Chicago is an extremely tough market, Kosher-wise.
  • Post #6 - April 18th, 2011, 1:15 pm
    Post #6 - April 18th, 2011, 1:15 pm Post #6 - April 18th, 2011, 1:15 pm
    FWIW, MetroKlub in the Crown Plaza (Greektown-ish) is Glatt Kosher, as I understand it from my highly observant coworker (apparently, the hotel ownership is Orthodox). They deliver around the Loop and the stuff he gets for work lunches looks a lot better than what I and the rest of the damned usually are eating.
  • Post #7 - April 18th, 2011, 4:24 pm
    Post #7 - April 18th, 2011, 4:24 pm Post #7 - April 18th, 2011, 4:24 pm
    spinynorman99 wrote:The obvious difficulty with Kosher dining anywhere is cost. Cost of ingredients (meat can be 3X as much as a non-kosher equivalent), supervision and reduced hours of operation (including Friday night). Only those with serious commitment (or poor math skills) would give opening a Kosher restaurant a shot. When a sandwich at a Kosher Subway can be $12 (and it's still Subway) then it makes a quick dinner for 4 close to $60 or $70. I doubt a family of 4 can walk out of Taboun (or the better Manghal) for under $80 - plus tip. And that's ordering at the very low end of the menu. Even mid-range ($15-$20 entrees) takes you over $100.

    Chicago is an extremely tough market, Kosher-wise.


    No question. Probably why the trend lately up in Skokie is opening kosher dairy restaurants. We can personally justify going kosher sometimes because it's not completely out of line when you live Near North and are used to paying Streeterville and Greektown prices. Your $20 per person at Taboun's an exaggeration, though. You can hold it to $15 if you do sandwiches rather than plates and split appetizers (particularly if you have kids with you).

    Having said that, I find it kind of depressing that a kosher Moroccan or Persian place couldn't make it here, let alone Shallots in Lincoln Park back when. However, from talking to the former owner before she sold her interest, she never really warmed to building a city clientele. The problem is you need to market mid-to-high-end kosher somewhere between 'worth it for non-Jews because it's higher quality and healthy' and 'special occasion for the observant and visiting New Yorkers'. And from talking to friends in the community that knows the owner of a Skokie meat place, there's an unwritten agreement to avoid having too many kosher places nearby - particularly meat -to avoid cannibalization. That doesn't help either.

    I just find our market sad after eating elsewhere. Check out this menu, for instance (click on the Menu icon; figure about 3.75 Israeli shekels to the dollar to get an idea of the pricing):
    http://the-eucalyptus.com/eucafrm.html

    Yeah, it's Israel, but that would be a pretty cool LTH place!
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  • Post #8 - April 19th, 2011, 9:55 am
    Post #8 - April 19th, 2011, 9:55 am Post #8 - April 19th, 2011, 9:55 am
    You can do OK at Taboun - they have relatively inexpensive kid's meals ($5-6) or about $3 for a bowl of soup, and if you order sandwiches instead of entrees you're probably at $15 per grown up with drink and tip. The entrees get steep really quick.

    For my money, Shallots is not worth it, although I haven't been to their new location. I think it went way downhill since Laura Frankl left.
    "You should eat!"
  • Post #9 - April 19th, 2011, 12:14 pm
    Post #9 - April 19th, 2011, 12:14 pm Post #9 - April 19th, 2011, 12:14 pm
    Franabanana wrote:You can do OK at Taboun - they have relatively inexpensive kid's meals ($5-6) or about $3 for a bowl of soup, and if you order sandwiches instead of entrees you're probably at $15 per grown up with drink and tip. The entrees get steep really quick.

    For my money, Shallots is not worth it, although I haven't been to their new location. I think it went way downhill since Laura Frankl left.



    That you have to work pretty hard to keep the tab "low" proves my point. In any case, the revamped Shallot's has achieved the near-impossible, offering sushi selections that make you forget you're in a Kosher restaurant.
  • Post #10 - April 19th, 2011, 12:35 pm
    Post #10 - April 19th, 2011, 12:35 pm Post #10 - April 19th, 2011, 12:35 pm
    I'm not arguing the point - if you look at my original post, I acknowledge you will pay more, and you probably won't get the service/quality you'd expect for the cost. I'd say it's a supply/demand issue; there is plenty of demand that kosher restaurants often don't need to try that hard, and they pass along the cost of meat directly to the customers.

    I buy kosher meat, so I feel the pain both ways!
    "You should eat!"
  • Post #11 - April 20th, 2011, 5:51 pm
    Post #11 - April 20th, 2011, 5:51 pm Post #11 - April 20th, 2011, 5:51 pm
    JeffB wrote:FWIW, MetroKlub in the Crown Plaza (Greektown-ish) is Glatt Kosher, as I understand it from my highly observant coworker (apparently, the hotel ownership is Orthodox). They deliver around the Loop and the stuff he gets for work lunches looks a lot better than what I and the rest of the damned usually are eating.

    I'm pretty sure they're only open for lunch.
  • Post #12 - April 20th, 2011, 9:27 pm
    Post #12 - April 20th, 2011, 9:27 pm Post #12 - April 20th, 2011, 9:27 pm
    I was really hoping LTH was going to help me out and tip me off to some other kosher restaurants... my in-laws arrived from Israel for a 6 mo. sabbatical about a month ago, and we have difficulty going out to eat with them. They keep fairly strict kosher, and while they will eat fish or vegetarian out, they will not eat non-kosher meat or poultry in restaurants. There are only so many affordable options in which they can eat, given their general dislike or trouble with of many ethnic cuisines. (Meanwhile, my wife and I will wrap our shrimp in bacon and dip it in cheese).

    Mizrahi Grill is near my parents in HP, so we've been there with the parents on a number of occasions during their previous visits. I don't believe they've been to Taboun, which my wife and I have been to. Got a thumbs down from my Israeli wife. Metro Klub sounded promising, expect for that it's lunch-only. But I'll let them know when they get a craving for some meat at lunch.
  • Post #13 - April 21st, 2011, 7:17 am
    Post #13 - April 21st, 2011, 7:17 am Post #13 - April 21st, 2011, 7:17 am
    (to blipsman):

    Manghal beats Taboun, in my opinion. They bake their own laffa, which is a nice touch. Other meat options are Ken's Diner on Dempster which does good, big, sloppy burgers. Srulie's on McCormick has a lot of meat options but tends to do "old school" cuisine (a little heavy, but really, really good). Shaevitz has their "Now We're Cookin Grill" in HP, but their supervision is independent of the CRC so some people skip it. And Tein Li Chow, the take-out Chinese counter in the Evanston Jewel store is decent and reliable.

    The oddball Casa de Isaac in HP is owned by Mexican Jews who I believe are somewhat observant (they close for the Sabbath and holidays) but the restaurant itself is not Kosher, although they have items that are non-meat.
  • Post #14 - April 21st, 2011, 8:39 am
    Post #14 - April 21st, 2011, 8:39 am Post #14 - April 21st, 2011, 8:39 am
    LAZ wrote:
    JeffB wrote:FWIW, MetroKlub in the Crown Plaza (Greektown-ish) is Glatt Kosher, as I understand it from my highly observant coworker (apparently, the hotel ownership is Orthodox). They deliver around the Loop and the stuff he gets for work lunches looks a lot better than what I and the rest of the damned usually are eating.

    I'm pretty sure they're only open for lunch.



    Maybe the dining room is, but my associate gets dinner catered from the kitchen regulalrly, AFAIK. Unsure if the main non-kosher dining room (Dine?) will cover observant guests after MetroKlub is closed, but I'd assume yes. Seems the hotel with its ownership profile might be marketing to travelers who keep kosher strictly. In that case you'd think they'd make such meals available for dinner/room service. But I don't know details; just that both lunch and dinner, glatt, have been delivered from the kitchen there.
  • Post #15 - April 21st, 2011, 10:45 am
    Post #15 - April 21st, 2011, 10:45 am Post #15 - April 21st, 2011, 10:45 am
    spinynorman99 wrote:(to blipsman):

    Manghal beats Taboun, in my opinion. They bake their own laffa, which is a nice touch. Other meat options are Ken's Diner on Dempster which does good, big, sloppy burgers. Srulie's on McCormick has a lot of meat options but tends to do "old school" cuisine (a little heavy, but really, really good). Shaevitz has their "Now We're Cookin Grill" in HP, but their supervision is independent of the CRC so some people skip it. And Tein Li Chow, the take-out Chinese counter in the Evanston Jewel store is decent and reliable.

    The oddball Casa de Isaac in HP is owned by Mexican Jews who I believe are somewhat observant (they close for the Sabbath and holidays) but the restaurant itself is not Kosher, although they have items that are non-meat.


    I thought Taboun did laffa on request. At least I remember ordering that way a couple of times when we went to the old Rogers Park location.

    Maybe it's my city chauvinism at work, but the couple of times we've went to the Skokie Taboun, it seemed like the quality has went down and become more QSR. There's less distinctive flavor/spiciness, and more of an oily feel to all the meat dishes and rice than there used to be. It also seems that Mizrahi Grill has toned down the spicing of the shawarma, as well as the richness of their hummus compared to the first six months they were open. It's still a must-stop if we're up in that area, but more of a small "wow" than a WOW.


    Although I find Slice of Life very bland, the adjacent meat restaurant, Hy Life, has a nice range of entrees, and IMHO is a better value for the quality than Shallots. Not taking credit cards is a negative, though, and Shallots has a much more appealing atmosphere, as well as its wine list.
  • Post #16 - April 21st, 2011, 8:01 pm
    Post #16 - April 21st, 2011, 8:01 pm Post #16 - April 21st, 2011, 8:01 pm
    Here's the CRC's complete list of local kosher restaurants.

    Dairy

    Bagel Country
    (Pas Yisroel - Cholov Yisroel - available. Yoshon - in-house baked goods only)
    http://www.bagelcountry.com
    9306 Skokie Blvd, Skokie, IL 60077
    847-673-3030

    Chalavi
    Cholov Yisroel (Yoshon may be available; Ask the mashgiach on duty)
    2931 W. Touhy, Chicago, IL 60645
    773-338-9640

    Dairy Star
    (Ice Cream Parlor - Seasonal - Cholov Yisroel available)
    http://www.dairystaricecream.com
    3472 W. Devon, Lincolnwood, IL 60645
    847-679-3472

    Devon Fish and Pizza
    (Cholov Yisroel & Yoshon. Pizza is Pas Yisroel)
    http://devonfishandpizza.com
    2948 West Devon, Chicago, IL 60659
    773-961-8392

    Dunkin Donuts
    (Bagels are Pas Yisroel & Pareve)
    3132 W. Devon, Chicago, IL 60659
    773-262-4561
    3900 W. Dempster, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-673-7099

    E.J.'s Pizzeria
    (Cholov Yisroel)
    http://ejspizzeriaskokie.com
    9149 N. Gross Point Road Skokie, IL 60076
    224-534-7215

    Malibu Pizza & Pasta
    (Cholov Yisroel)
    http://www.kensdiner.com
    3353 Dempster, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-679-4030

    Main Pizza
    (Cholov Yisroel & Yoshon)
    4209 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-568-9920

    Slice of Life
    (Cholov Yisroel available on request)
    4120 W. Dempster, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-674-2021

    Tel Aviv Kosher Pizza
    (Cholov Yisroel - Pizza is Yoshon)
    6349 N. California, Chicago, IL 60659
    773-764-3776

    Meat

    Aramark, University of Chicago
    (Oct.-June only, closed winter vacation)
    6025 S. Ellis Avenue, Chicago, IL
    773-834-8450
    5640 South University Ave. Chicago, IL
    773-702-5120

    Great Chicago Food & Beverage
    http://www.thegreatchicago.com
    3149 W. Devon, Chicago, IL 60659
    773-465-9030

    Hy Life Bistro
    4120 W. Dempster, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-674-2021

    Ken’s Diner
    http://www.kensdiner.com
    3353 Dempster, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-679-4030

    Manghal
    http://www.manghalgrill.com
    1805 Howard Street, Evanston, IL 60202
    847-859-2681

    Metro Klub
    (Lunch hours only.
    Under the supervision of Midwest Kosher)
    733 W. Madison, Chicago, IL 60661
    312-602-2104

    Mizrahi Grill
    http://www.mizrahigrill.com
    215 Skokie Valley Road, Highland Park, IL 60035
    847-831-1400

    Sandwich Club
    Some salads and sandwiches available downtown Chicago. Call for details
    http://www.thesandwichclub.net
    4507 W. Oakton, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-677-6020

    Shallots Bistro
    http://www.shallotsbistro.com
    7016 Carpenter Road, Skokie, IL 60077
    847-677-DINE

    Subway
    3945 W. Dempster, Skokie, IL 60076
    847-673-7821

    Ta'boun Grill
    http://www.taboungrill.com
    8808 N. Gross Point Rd, Skokie, IL
    847-965-1818

    Tein Li Chow
    (Chinese Take-Out)
    http://www.teinlichow.com
    2485 W. Howard, Evanston, IL
    847-328-4642
  • Post #17 - April 22nd, 2011, 11:25 am
    Post #17 - April 22nd, 2011, 11:25 am Post #17 - April 22nd, 2011, 11:25 am
    Chicago Loop Synagogue sells Sandwich Club boxed lunches for $11 (cash only, pay in the office), which includes sandwich or wrap, chips, apple, cookie, and drink. They are often picked clean by 1 pm, but I think people do call ahead and reserve. They usually have a selection of cold cuts, plus tuna salad and a chicken wrap thing.

    16 S. Clark Street
    312.346.7370
    http://www.chicagoloopsynagogue.org/meals.asp

    My rabbi (Conservative) says Now We're Cookin' Grill/Shaevitz is fine, but I do know of people who won't eat there because of the certification.

    I did not realize the Dunkin Donuts on Dempster was kosher! It was some time ago, and it looks like new ownership got it re-certified in 2009.
    "You should eat!"
  • Post #18 - April 22nd, 2011, 4:14 pm
    Post #18 - April 22nd, 2011, 4:14 pm Post #18 - April 22nd, 2011, 4:14 pm
    Franabanana wrote:My rabbi (Conservative) says Now We're Cookin' Grill/Shaevitz is fine, but I do know of people who won't eat there because of the certification.

    The list above is just what the CRC called "Restaurants." It omits omits some CRC-certified carryout-only spots, caterers, stores, etc.

    I do wonder about the politics of certification, though. For example, the CRC doesn't list Now We're Cookin' Grill in its "Guide to Jewish Chicago" anywhere; one might therefore conclude that the list is only CRC-certified restaurants, but it does include Metro Klub, which is under the supervision of Midwest Kosher. Now We're Cookin' Grill's website says "Orthodox Supervision by Rabbi Sander J. Mussman." (Some discussion of why this place is controversial here.) The CRC also does not list Jerusalem Kosher Restaurant on Devon. Are they still in business? They were certified by OK.

    Are there other local restaurants using non-CRC kosher certification?

    How is the barbecue at Now We're Cookin' Grill? (And it's carryout only, right?)

    Now We're Cookin' Grill
    (847) 432-7310
    Fax: (847) 432-8352
    710 Central Ave., Highland Park
    http://www.cookin-grill.com
  • Post #19 - April 22nd, 2011, 10:24 pm
    Post #19 - April 22nd, 2011, 10:24 pm Post #19 - April 22nd, 2011, 10:24 pm
    spinynorman99 wrote:The oddball Casa de Isaac in HP is owned by Mexican Jews who I believe are somewhat observant (they close for the Sabbath and holidays) but the restaurant itself is not Kosher, although they have items that are non-meat.

    The Nava family is actually very observant of the rules of their faith, which is the Iglesia de Dios Israelita. ("Mexican Jews for Jesus" is the way Moishe Nava described their religion to me, although some researchers believe the group was founded in a 19th-century split from a splinter group of the Seventh Day Adventists, who follow similar Old Testament-based but non-Talmudic dietary laws.) The denomination bans pork and shellfish and the other foods forbidden in Leviticus and observes the Sabbath from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday; I don't believe it has a prohibition against the mixing of meat and dairy products, though, and I'm uncertain if rules exist regarding how meat must be slaughtered or otherwise treated. They also worship Christ, which doesn't directly affect the food, but would certainly be a stumbling block in the way of CRC kosher certification.
  • Post #20 - April 23rd, 2011, 7:57 am
    Post #20 - April 23rd, 2011, 7:57 am Post #20 - April 23rd, 2011, 7:57 am
    LAZ wrote:I do wonder about the politics of certification, though. For example, the CRC doesn't list Now We're Cookin' Grill in its "Guide to Jewish Chicago" anywhere; one might therefore conclude that the list is only CRC-certified restaurants, but it does include Metro Klub, which is under the supervision of Midwest Kosher. Now We're Cookin' Grill's website says "Orthodox Supervision by Rabbi Sander J. Mussman." (Some discussion of why this place is controversial here.) The CRC also does not list Jerusalem Kosher Restaurant on Devon. Are they still in business? They were certified by OK.

    Are there other local restaurants using non-CRC kosher certification?

    How is the barbecue at Now We're Cookin' Grill? (And it's carryout only, right?)

    Now We're Cookin' Grill
    (847) 432-7310
    Fax: (847) 432-8352
    710 Central Ave., Highland Park
    http://www.cookin-grill.com



    The barbecue at Now We're is cooking is good - the hamburgers are also excellent. Itis counter services but there are tables where you can sit and eat but it is a small place and they fill up.

    I do not know of any other restaurant than Now We're Cooking that is using non-CRC or CRC approved certification. Below is the link for the Delis and Supermarkets that food is also available - http://www.crcweb.org/guide_chicago.php#Meat/Fish/Deli Market
  • Post #21 - June 7th, 2011, 4:49 am
    Post #21 - June 7th, 2011, 4:49 am Post #21 - June 7th, 2011, 4:49 am
    LAZ wrote:
    spinynorman99 wrote: They also worship Christ, which doesn't directly affect the food, but would certainly be a stumbling block in the way of CRC kosher certification.


    Not really someone who is Christian can own a kosher restaurant and still be certified as in the case of the chocolate shoppe in Skokie -

    Here is a link to the CRC web site for all things kosher not only restaurants but delis and supermarkets with Take Out - http://www.crcweb.org/guide_chicago.php
  • Post #22 - June 7th, 2011, 6:46 am
    Post #22 - June 7th, 2011, 6:46 am Post #22 - June 7th, 2011, 6:46 am
    I haven't eaten here yet, but their fliers stated they are kosher:

    Carnivore
    6407 N Bell
    Chicago, IL 60645
    (773) 338-7773
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  • Post #23 - June 7th, 2011, 7:31 am
    Post #23 - June 7th, 2011, 7:31 am Post #23 - June 7th, 2011, 7:31 am
    weinstein5 wrote:
    LAZ wrote:
    spinynorman99 wrote: They also worship Christ, which doesn't directly affect the food, but would certainly be a stumbling block in the way of CRC kosher certification.


    Not really someone who is Christian can own a kosher restaurant and still be certified as in the case of the chocolate shoppe in Skokie -

    Here is a link to the CRC web site for all things kosher not only restaurants but delis and supermarkets with Take Out - http://www.crcweb.org/guide_chicago.php



    FYI, you're attributing LAZ's quote to me in your post. Just want to clear that up.

    And to clairify for LAZ, certification is a process that is independent of religious belief, and in fact may be advantageous for some since an orthodox Jew cannot transact business on Sabbath or Jewish Holy days their restaurants must be closed on those days. Some people circumvent the prohibition by taking on non-Jewish partners who take all the profits from those hours of business. A non-Jew can similarly stay open through Sabbath.
  • Post #24 - June 8th, 2011, 2:39 pm
    Post #24 - June 8th, 2011, 2:39 pm Post #24 - June 8th, 2011, 2:39 pm
    spinynorman99 wrote:And to clairify for LAZ, certification is a process that is independent of religious belief, and in fact may be advantageous for some since an orthodox Jew cannot transact business on Sabbath or Jewish Holy days their restaurants must be closed on those days. Some people circumvent the prohibition by taking on non-Jewish partners who take all the profits from those hours of business. A non-Jew can similarly stay open through Sabbath.

    There are a lot of very complex rules regarding food prepared without the participation of observant Jews (bishul akum), which is what I meant by "a stumbling block."
  • Post #25 - December 15th, 2011, 11:58 am
    Post #25 - December 15th, 2011, 11:58 am Post #25 - December 15th, 2011, 11:58 am
    Overnight Makeover for a Kosher First Kitchen - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/dinin ... ef=general
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #26 - December 16th, 2011, 1:34 pm
    Post #26 - December 16th, 2011, 1:34 pm Post #26 - December 16th, 2011, 1:34 pm
    Suzy Creamcheese wrote:I haven't eaten here yet, but their fliers stated they are kosher:

    Carnivore
    6407 N Bell
    Chicago, IL 60645
    (773) 338-7773


    Nothing on their website indicates that they are kosher nor are they on the CRC list so I do not think they are kosher
  • Post #27 - May 22nd, 2012, 7:49 pm
    Post #27 - May 22nd, 2012, 7:49 pm Post #27 - May 22nd, 2012, 7:49 pm
    There is a new option for Kosher food in the Loop - Kotel Kosher http://www.frenchmarketchicago.com/vendor/kotel_kosher in the Chicago French Market - it is basically a grab and go sandwich shop -
  • Post #28 - May 24th, 2012, 3:49 pm
    Post #28 - May 24th, 2012, 3:49 pm Post #28 - May 24th, 2012, 3:49 pm
    weinstein5 wrote:There is a new option for Kosher food in the Loop - Kotel Kosher http://www.frenchmarketchicago.com/vendor/kotel_kosher in the Chicago French Market - it is basically a grab and go sandwich shop -


    But do they have Achla hummus from Israel LOL? If they do, that saves us a trip to Garden Fresh in Northbrook to get our authentic hummus fix.
  • Post #29 - June 19th, 2012, 8:12 pm
    Post #29 - June 19th, 2012, 8:12 pm Post #29 - June 19th, 2012, 8:12 pm
    Recently opened:
    Red Mango
    5230 Dempster St.
    Skokie IL, 60077
    P: 847.967.1300
    Note: this location is NOT cRc certified. However, they advertise as "Strictly Kosher"
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #30 - June 19th, 2012, 8:38 pm
    Post #30 - June 19th, 2012, 8:38 pm Post #30 - June 19th, 2012, 8:38 pm
    They are under one of the national agencies - OK - http://www.redmangousa.com/nutrition/kosher/

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