nsxtasy wrote:

FoodLover1 wrote:Andy's = Had the BEST milkshakes (I don't recall if they had malts, or not or if I got them). It either came with the metal container with the leftovers that wouldn't fit the glass or you just drank/spooned out of the container. Idrw.

Try Edzo's, in Evanston. The same exact description applies. The BEST milkshakes. If you've been longing for a great milkshake and haven't had one in years, theirs will shock your world.

I prefer malts to shakes now, but I don't remember if Andy's had malts as well or only shakes. Currently my favorite malts are Oberweis Diary but I'd like to check-out Edzo's. Do they have malts? That link didn't mention malts or shakes. Only their "BLOOD" burgers.

FoodLover1 wrote:I prefer malts to shakes now, but I don't remember if Andy's had malts as well or only shakes. Currently my favorite malts are Oberweis Diary but I'd like to check-out Edzo's. Do they have malts?

Yes! (On the photo of their menu board on their website, below the milk shakes, you'll see it says "MAKE IT A MALT - ADD 35¢".)

Although they don't exactly overdo it on the malted milk powder. But I like mine malty. I may ask for "double malt" next time I go.

Their standard shake/malt flavors are vanilla, chocolate, Nutella, cola, peanut butter, hot fudge, banana, Oreo, and maple. Don't forget to check the specials board, as they often have 2-3 shake/malt flavors as specials. I remember a few weeks ago one of the special shake/malt flavors was salted caramel, and I think another was Mexican chocolate.

Hi, I'm new to the Forum. I'll toss in my two, possibly four, cents on long gone Chicago restaurants I've enjoyed:

Miyako Shoku Do. My first experience with Japanese cuisine was in this family-run storefront on Clark, a little north of Belmont. In the late 1960's, this is where I learned to use chopsticks and appreciate sukiyaki, don buri (both oyako & unagi) and other delicious homestyle foods with many cups of green tea. There was always a black-&-white TV on, propped up over the last booth. There were toddlers playing on the floor while Mom & Dad cooked in the kitchen and then brought out the food to us. The cheap metal teapots were from the 1940's or early '50's, with "Made in Occupied Japan" stamped under the handles. There was no sushi--this was decades before the worldwide sushi craze caught on in the 1980's.

The Bowl & Roll. Sadako Tanino, the wife of The Bakery's Chef Louis Szathmáry, ran a little basement soup place on Wells Street in Old Town. I enjoyed many pleasant lunches of good, hearty, cheap bowls of soup and crusty bread there. The selections varied, though at least one paprikash soup seemed to have been cribbed from her husband, the Hungarian Chef.

And though it was mentioned earlier, in the late 1960's, the height of fine dining was to sit at the little chef's table in the kitchen at The Bakery on Lincoln Avenue, enjoying Beef Wellington.

Chez Paul. A mansion on Dearborn near Division had excellent (to my taste at least) classic French cuisine. A number of my high school friends and I treated ourselves to a graduation dinner there in 1971.

There was a French bistrot on the South Side in the early 1970's, on west 63rd Street, The French Kitchen. It was recommended by Chicago Magazine, natch, and it was where I first encountered fish baked in a paper bag ("sole en sac"). Unfortunately, the rice that accompanied the fish didn't meet muster with my Chinese-American pal, who turned up his nose and loudly declared it to be "Minute Rice" in his expert opinion.

Lockwood Castle. An ice cream emporium on Devon at, naturally, Lockwood, where you could get ridiculously large sundaes and sodas. The pinnacle of the menu was a 35(!) scoop bowl meant for group slurping.

There was a restaurant, heavily promoted on WFMT's Midnight Special, on Larrabee Street in Lincoln Park, whose specialties seemed to be lobster and corn on the cob, but I can't for the life of me remember the name. Captain something?

Don't know if bars are a legit mention here, but one of my favorite long gone watering holes was the Bucket O' Suds, on Belmont just west of Cicero. Joe Danno, the bartender, poured us what he contended was "pre-Prohibition" bourbon, but I think there was a bit of PT Barnum about him. A great place, the likes of which Chicago no longer has.

There were "men's bars" at the Berghof and at the top of Carson Pirie Scott, back in the bad old days when women were simply told to stay out. The Carson's spot had quarter beers, if I remember right. The Berghof bar was pretty much as it always was, but had absolutely no seating: you stood at the bar with one foot on the brass rail cowboy style, or you stood at the few scattered high tables while you ate your split bratwurst or corned beef sandwich and drank your mug of Berghof dark. I discovered both these places while still in high school. In a simpler time, no one ever asked for ID if you comported yourself respectfully and didn't cause trouble.

Tom wrote:Hi, I'm new to the Forum. I'll toss in my two, possibly four, cents on long gone Chicago restaurants I've enjoyed . . .

Welcome!

Tom wrote:Chez Paul. A mansion on Dearborn near Division had excellent (to my taste at least) classic French cuisine. A number of my high school friends and I treated ourselves to a graduation dinner there in 1971.

Of course, I never ate there but it is the site of one of the funniest movie scenes ever, in The Blues Brothers. I know it was a serious, important restaurant but the mere mention of it always starts me laughing; remembering Aykroyd being told "wrong glass, sir" and Belushi asking the folks at the table next to him "how much for the little girls?"

Tom wrote:Lockwood Castle. An ice cream emporium on Devon at, naturally, Lockwood, where you could get ridiculously large sundaes and sodas. The pinnacle of the menu was a 35(!) scoop bowl meant for group slurping.

This place had/has a lot of importance to me, as it's the place I first met my eventually-to-be stepmom and stepbrother back in 197?. Being a north-suburban kid, the place was entirely new to me but needless to say, I took to it immediately.

Thanks, for the memory jolt.

=R=

ronnie_suburban wrote:Welcome!

Thanks, for the memory jolt.

=R=

And thank you for the hospitality!

Tom wrote:Hi, I'm new to the Forum. I'll toss in my two, possibly four, cents on long gone Chicago restaurants I've enjoyed:

Good stuff! Here are a few miscellaneous comments. By the way, have you seen the All The Old Familiar Places (RIP) thread?

Tom wrote:Miyako Shoku Do. My first experience with Japanese cuisine was in this family-run storefront on Clark, a little north of Belmont. In the late 1960's, this is where I learned to use chopsticks and appreciate sukiyaki, don buri (both oyako & unagi) and other delicious homestyle foods with many cups of green tea. There was always a black-&-white TV on, propped up over the last booth. There were toddlers playing on the floor while Mom & Dad cooked in the kitchen and then brought out the food to us. The cheap metal teapots were from the 1940's or early '50's, with "Made in Occupied Japan" stamped under the handles. There was no sushi--this was decades before the worldwide sushi craze caught on in the 1980's.

Before Miyako opened on Clark north of Belmont in the late 1960s, the owner had another restaurant on Clark south of Division. Those teapots were probably from the old place. For a discussion of the early history of Chicago sushi, see the Founder of Chicago's First Sushi Restaurant Honored thread.

Tom wrote:The Bowl & Roll. Sadako Tanino, the wife of The Bakery's Chef Louis Szathmáry, ran a little basement soup place on Wells Street in Old Town. I enjoyed many pleasant lunches of good, hearty, cheap bowls of soup and crusty bread there. The selections varied, though at least one paprikash soup seemed to have been cribbed from her husband, the Hungarian Chef.

Don't forget the Hungarian sausage sandwich.

Tom wrote:And though it was mentioned earlier, in the late 1960's, the height of fine dining was to sit at the little chef's table in the kitchen at The Bakery on Lincoln Avenue, enjoying Beef Wellington.

Not sure if you've seen the Remembering Beef Wellington @ The Bakery thread.

Tom wrote:There was a French bistrot on the South Side in the early 1970's, on west 63rd Street, The French Kitchen. It was recommended by Chicago Magazine, natch, and it was where I first encountered fish baked in a paper bag ("sole en sac"). Unfortunately, the rice that accompanied the fish didn't meet muster with my Chinese-American pal, who turned up his nose and loudly declared it to be "Minute Rice" in his expert opinion.

Briefly mentioned in the French restaurants in Chicago after WWII thread. I still fondly remember a long-ago poached pear I ate there.

Tom wrote:There was a restaurant, heavily promoted on WFMT's Midnight Special, on Larrabee Street in Lincoln Park, whose specialties seemed to be lobster and corn on the cob, but I can't for the life of me remember the name. Captain something?

Through the 1960s to the early '70s the Tap Root Pub on Larrabee was known for its Sunday clambakes that included a small lobster. After losing a long battle with urban renewal, the owner opened a new Tap Root almost around the corner on Willow. You'll still occasionally see a car (always the same one?) with a Save the Tap Root Pub bumper sticker.

Tom wrote:Don't know if bars are a legit mention here, but one of my favorite long gone watering holes was the Bucket O' Suds, on Belmont just west of Cicero. Joe Danno, the bartender, poured us what he contended was "pre-Prohibition" bourbon, but I think there was a bit of PT Barnum about him. A great place, the likes of which Chicago no longer has.

Just in case you missed them, there are a couple threads devoted to Bucket o' Suds (was actually on Cicero south of Belmont): Bucket O Suds Remembered and BOS Distilling. Only two months ago I noticed bottles of (supposedly long gone) Auburn and Alumni for sale in a suburban liquor store.

Tom wrote:There were "men's bars" at the Berghof and at the top of Carson Pirie Scott, back in the bad old days when women were simply told to stay out. The Carson's spot had quarter beers, if I remember right. The Berghof bar was pretty much as it always was, but had absolutely no seating: you stood at the bar with one foot on the brass rail cowboy style, or you stood at the few scattered high tables while you ate your split bratwurst or corned beef sandwich and drank your mug of Berghof dark. I discovered both these places while still in high school. In a simpler time, no one ever asked for ID if you comported yourself respectfully and didn't cause trouble.

I frequented the Berghoff bar only after it became integrated but I'm told in the "old days" at least one bartender would address any rare female customers as "Sir."

Rene G wrote:Good stuff! Here are a few miscellaneous comments.

Nice to meet you, Rene! And thanks for all the comments and leads. You've provided me a great reading list on this Forum to start with!

Rene G wrote:Through the 1960s to the early '70s the Tap Root Pub on Larrabee...

Thank you for this! I've been scratching my head trying to remember the name of the Tap Root Pub forever.

Rene G wrote:Bucket o' Suds (was actually on Cicero south of Belmont)...

I leave it as a testament to the power of Joe Danno's elixirs that I have a crystal clear recollection of the Bucket being on the northwest corner, on Belmont, a few doors west of Cicero. No surprise my memories of that place are mixed up and spun around. This Reader article from the closing in 1996 proves you correct, it was 3123 N Cicero: http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/ch ... oid=892032

Rene G wrote:I frequented the Berghoff bar only after it became integrated but I'm told in the "old days" at least one bartender would address any rare female customers as "Sir."

You are quite right that the Chicago Liquor License Number One used a double F at the end of its name. And "ouch" to being called "Sir." Those really were Paleolithic days (and attitudes).

ronnie_suburban wrote:

Tom wrote:Lockwood Castle. An ice cream emporium on Devon at, naturally, Lockwood, where you could get ridiculously large sundaes and sodas. The pinnacle of the menu was a 35(!) scoop bowl meant for group slurping.

This place had/has a lot of importance to me, as it's the place I first met my eventually-to-be stepmom and stepbrother back in 197?. Being a north-suburban kid, the place was entirely new to me but needless to say, I took to it immediately.

Thanks, for the memory jolt.

=R=

Maybe you can get the Starbucks now at that location to put a sparkler in your latte - for old times' sake.

spinynorman99 wrote:

ronnie_suburban wrote:

Tom wrote:Lockwood Castle. An ice cream emporium on Devon at, naturally, Lockwood, where you could get ridiculously large sundaes and sodas. The pinnacle of the menu was a 35(!) scoop bowl meant for group slurping.

This place had/has a lot of importance to me, as it's the place I first met my eventually-to-be stepmom and stepbrother back in 197?. Being a north-suburban kid, the place was entirely new to me but needless to say, I took to it immediately.

Thanks, for the memory jolt.

=R=

Maybe you can get the Starbucks now at that location to put a sparkler in your latte - for old times' sake.

Yeah, bummer.

=R=

spinynorman99 wrote:As a Kosher-keeping Jewish kid in the 70's I was envious of my friends who had the local burger joint experience. Our make-do was Reb's on California near Pratt. It was awful in a great way that only 12 year old boys can appreciate and gave us a [Kosher] taste of how the other half [99% ??] lives. Great thin griddled burgers and fries. I'm sure I'd probably turn my nose up on it today, but it was great as a kid. Ken's on Dempster is probably the only comparable thing that Kosher kids have these days and their burgers are pretty darn great, but nowhere near the awful/wonderful Reb's experience.

As someone who keeps kosher as well - when my family would come up to Chicago to visit family we would go to a kosher Israeli place in West Rogers Park called Cafe Ha Negev - i was one o fthe things I would look forward to on our visits - excellent falafel and shwarma

Anyone care to join me in 1975 for an Ollie burger and some dark beer at Lum's or perhaps some Eggs Benedict and coffee at Sambo's?

(These may have not been limited to Chicago, but they are from the past.)

Did anyone in this thread already mention the long since gone Ceiling Zero located at the long since gone Sky Harbor Airport?

Has anyone been to a Dog 'n Suds? I recall them from my childhood but really don't remember if the food was any good.

Cas and Lou's - fabulous braciole on Irving Park Road.
Cynthia's - fine dining circa early 1980s on Halsted north of Armitage
Nepenthe - those ties! Caribbean food on some forlorn stretch near (or on) Goose Island
Le Cochonnet - little French spot in Wrigleyville, now probably a loud obnoxious bar
Great Gritzbe's Flying Food Show - quintessential 1970s Lettuce Entertain You
Hi Howe - Chinese food for Jewish people, on North Cicero near Peterson
Nankin - Chinese food for Jewish people, on Dempster in Skokie
Barnum and Bagel - Jewish food for Jewish people, on Dempster in Skokie
Dixie - Not Dixie Kitchen in Hyde Park, but New Orleans food, 80s style, on Chicago near Franklin
The Raccoon Club - little underground nightspot on Franklin near Chicago
Merlot Joes - great brunch on Damen in Bucktown
Toulouse on the Park - Lincoln Park West near Webster (best cabaret in Chicago, ever)
Matsuya - authentic Japanese back when Wrigleyville abounded with Japanese restaurants
Fannie's - Italian food in Evanston as interpreted by a Jewish woman
My Place For ? - Greek seafood near the Howard elevated station
L'Epuisette - exquisite French fare in the Gold Coast
Jimmy's - quirky but quality on Elston
Mirador - upscale Old Town joint from late 1980s or early 1990s
Gare St Lazare - Armitage
Acqualina - a star that shone briefly at Montrose and Lincoln
Cafe Matou - recently departed and dearly missed
Gordon - the one place above all that I wish I could still go to

Sauer's - great hamburgers in a cavernous space.

Great list, spinachdip! Welcome to LTH!

While the one place I wish I could still go to is Le Francais, the food was very rich and would probably be criticized by folks as "too 1970s". Then again, Michael Lachowicz, who owned the restaurant briefly before its final closing, still does some dishes "in the style of Jean Banchet". At New Year's Eve, he served a beef tenderloin en croute which had a layer of mushroom mousse between the meat and the outer crust, which was the kind of thing Banchet did. One thing I really miss from there is "the show", the 45-minute procession of platters at the start of the meal to show you almost everything on the evening's menu, before taking your order.

spinachdip wrote:Gordon - the one place above all that I wish I could still go to

Ah yes! Gordon was serving contemporary American cuisine at his eponymous restaurant many years before the term was popularized. I still miss the artichoke fritters!

I really really miss both Honda and Suntory.

nsxtasy wrote:One thing I really miss from there is "the show", the 45-minute procession of platters at the start of the meal to show you almost everything on the evening's menu, before taking your order.

Is that right? 45 minutes to show you every dish on the menu?

To the earlier POSTERS.....

Plenty of Dog and Suds locations in and around Illinios
Great Root Beer Too

http://drive-ins.dog-n-suds.com/plugins/dns_locations/dns_locations.php


And to the poster who asked about the Sky Hi Drive Inn on Cicero...

I was there (but only remember the plane not the food..)
and found these online.


http://chuckmanchicagonostalgia.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/sky-hi-drive-in-100-s-cicero-ave/

http://chuckmanchicagonostalgia.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/photo-chicago-sky-hi-drive-in-cicero-ave-b-and-w-1964/x-photo-chicago-sky-hi-drive-in-cicero-ave-b-and-w-1964/

jesteinf wrote:

nsxtasy wrote:One thing I really miss from there is "the show", the 45-minute procession of platters at the start of the meal to show you almost everything on the evening's menu, before taking your order.

Is that right? 45 minutes to show you every dish on the menu?

Yes. And it was a huge menu. Most of the dishes were on rolling carts, from which various platters were lifted and brought to the table to show to the individual diners, up close and personal.

Remember, this was before tasting menus were big at high-end restaurants, so you were typically ordering courses a la carte.

Chicken Unlimited. They were all over the city in the early 70's:

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=Chicken+ ... 29,r:0,s:0

nsxtasy wrote:

FoodLover1 wrote:Andy's = Had the BEST milkshakes (I don't recall if they had malts, or not or if I got them). It either came with the metal container with the leftovers that wouldn't fit the glass or you just drank/spooned out of the container. Idrw.

Try Edzo's, in Evanston. The same exact description applies. The BEST milkshakes. If you've been longing for a great milkshake and haven't had one in years, theirs will rock your world.

On the show 'Check, Please' earlier tonight they went to Edzo's. I'll have to check-it-out, sometime.

Does anybody remember that Creole/Cajun po'boy place that used to be on Damen Ave. in Wicker Park, circa 1990? They had the best fried oysters and shrimp that I have had in this city (prior to my visit to Troha's last fall). Cracker meal breading; not cornmeal (too heavy), or flour (too light, and oddly flavored), or batter (too thick) and nicely seasoned. Just like Mom used to make. I really miss them. If I remember correctly, it was owned by a pair of brothers from Louisiana. What happened to those guys anyway? Did they open a new place?

themaven wrote:Does anybody remember that Creole/Cajun po'boy place that used to be on Damen Ave. in Wicker Park, circa 1990? They had the best fried oysters and shrimp that I have had in this city (prior to my visit to Troha's last fall). Cracker meal breading; not cornmeal (too heavy), or flour (too light, and oddly flavored), or batter (too thick) and nicely seasoned.

About where on Damen? Jambalaya was on the east side of Damen, a little south of Wabansia. They were known for fried seafood po'boys but didn't open until about 2003.

I remember enjoying a Hungarian place which was downstairs in a condo building across from the park on Belmont. Gulash and Bull's Blood. Can't recall the name.

bw77 wrote:I remember enjoying a Hungarian place which was downstairs in a condo building across from the park on Belmont. Gulash and Bull's Blood. Can't recall the name.

Would that be Kennesey's Gourmet in the building at the southwest corner of Belmont & Sheridan?

Dave148 wrote:

bw77 wrote:I remember enjoying a Hungarian place which was downstairs in a condo building across from the park on Belmont. Gulash and Bull's Blood. Can't recall the name.

Would that be Kennesey's Gourmet in the building at the southwest corner of Belmont & Sheridan?

Yep, Kenessey Gourmets Internationale in the Hotel Belmont.

ronnie_suburban wrote:

Tom wrote:

Tom wrote:Lockwood Castle. An ice cream emporium on Devon at, naturally, Lockwood, where you could get ridiculously large sundaes and sodas. The pinnacle of the menu was a 35(!) scoop bowl meant for group slurping.

This place had/has a lot of importance to me, as it's the place I first met my eventually-to-be stepmom and stepbrother back in 197?. Being a north-suburban kid, the place was entirely new to me but needless to say, I took to it immediately.

I thought I posted this on this thread already, but I too miss Lockwood Castle. We went every year after looking at the Christmas lights in Edgebrook and I would get a sundae and a hot chocolate. I never was able to fulfill my dream of mastering the belly-buster.

I'll also add Mill Race Inn in Geneva; I hadn't been there in years, but I was sad to see it go. It was the place I always wanted to go when we went to Geneva, because of their chocolate mousse dessert.

And RIP Apple Haus in Long Grove. I've been getting apple doughnuts and sippy cups since I was a tot.

Lockwood Castle, at the NE corner of Devon & Central, is now a yucky Starbucks, but it had a magnificent soda fountain in its heyday, 1960's through 1980's. The 'Giant Killer' sundae had 24 scoops of ice cream, cost $6.95 (in 1972) and was free if one person ate the whole thing. I remember it had a great coffee shop-style menu with patty melts and griddled cheeseburgers.

jnm123 wrote:Lockwood Castle, at the NE corner of Devon & Central

Not to be picky - NW corner. My favorite part of LC - the sparklers.