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Where to get fresh goat, regularly??
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  • Where to get fresh goat, regularly??

    Post #1 - March 15th, 2005, 12:49 pm
    Post #1 - March 15th, 2005, 12:49 pm Post #1 - March 15th, 2005, 12:49 pm
    I'm assuming the best place will be a Hispanic market, but many do not carry it or don't do so reliably and some freeze it.

    I'm looking for fresh goat stew meat, goat shank, and goat shoulder (for light, slow smoking).

    I'll travel, but spots near Pilsen or up near Bucktown/logan square would be preferable. Also the prefered Devon location could be occasionally useful.


    Thanks,

    Griffin
  • Post #2 - March 15th, 2005, 1:02 pm
    Post #2 - March 15th, 2005, 1:02 pm Post #2 - March 15th, 2005, 1:02 pm
    I"m pretty sure Peoria Packing on Lake St. carries fresh goat regularly. For the address search LTH, the address has been posted several times.
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  • Post #3 - March 15th, 2005, 1:25 pm
    Post #3 - March 15th, 2005, 1:25 pm Post #3 - March 15th, 2005, 1:25 pm
    Is this poor fella from Noor lamb or goat? I can't remember.

    Image
  • Post #4 - March 15th, 2005, 1:34 pm
    Post #4 - March 15th, 2005, 1:34 pm Post #4 - March 15th, 2005, 1:34 pm
    Griffin

    Be it whole or hunk, Halsted Packing House is an excellent source for fresh killed lamb, pig and goat.

    Halsted Packing House
    445 N Halsted
    Chicago
    312 421 5147
  • Post #5 - March 15th, 2005, 1:35 pm
    Post #5 - March 15th, 2005, 1:35 pm Post #5 - March 15th, 2005, 1:35 pm
    That's lamb. I've been shopping at City Noor for 5 or 6 years and I don't believe I've ever seen goat there. Beef, veal, lamb, chicken, all halal, are their mainstays. Maybe they carry it sometimes but I'd be surprised to hear they have been over all these years I've been visiting them.

    On Halsted is a butcher shop, east side of the street a little ways south of Grand (but north of Lake) that carrys goat and lamb and suckling pigs. I'd give them a try.

    Antonius


    Added post-post:
    P.S. Writing this while JSM was posting, I now see that the place he mentioned with detailed info is the one I mentioned here with no details. They used to have the windows largely covered but last time I went by, you could see in. I think it is a Greek-run business -- not sure where i got that idea from, though...
    Last edited by Antonius on March 15th, 2005, 1:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
    Alle Nerven exzitiert von dem gewürzten Wein -- Anwandlung von Todesahndungen -- Doppeltgänger --
    - aus dem Tagebuch E.T.A. Hoffmanns, 6. Januar 1804.
    ________
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  • Post #6 - March 15th, 2005, 1:40 pm
    Post #6 - March 15th, 2005, 1:40 pm Post #6 - March 15th, 2005, 1:40 pm
    They advertise goat on their awning.
  • Post #7 - March 15th, 2005, 1:46 pm
    Post #7 - March 15th, 2005, 1:46 pm Post #7 - March 15th, 2005, 1:46 pm
    extramsg wrote:They advertise goat on their awning.


    I'll ask after it next time I'm there -- I might be going for Easter. I don't recall ever once seeing it on any of the signs on the red-meat counter but, as I said, I allow for the possibility. But not having seen it over 5-6 years in the advertisements on the cooler, I can't help but wonder if it is only an occasional item or something they stopped carrying since the sign was made.

    Did you see it there when you visited?
    Alle Nerven exzitiert von dem gewürzten Wein -- Anwandlung von Todesahndungen -- Doppeltgänger --
    - aus dem Tagebuch E.T.A. Hoffmanns, 6. Januar 1804.
    ________
    Na sir is na seachain an cath.
  • Post #8 - March 15th, 2005, 1:56 pm
    Post #8 - March 15th, 2005, 1:56 pm Post #8 - March 15th, 2005, 1:56 pm
    I'd have to look back at my notes. I was on sensory overload that day, too, so names of things weren't high on the mental priority list. I took over 1000 photos that day.
  • Post #9 - March 15th, 2005, 2:07 pm
    Post #9 - March 15th, 2005, 2:07 pm Post #9 - March 15th, 2005, 2:07 pm
    For what it's worth, a neighbour of mine, now retired, who hails from northern Mexico and worked many, many years in the packing industry here in Chicago, once told me that 90% of the "goat" sold in Chicago was in fact mutton. Now, for various reasons I am inclined very much to believe he knows whereof he speaks, though his statement may be one that was more true in times past, when he was still in the business, than it is now. Demographic changes and changes within the industry may since have made real goat more available, but according to my neighbour this was a widespread form of cheating: selling cheap mutton as the more expensive and harder to get goat.

    This gentleman is an amazing source of information on matters norteño, matters regarding meat, and the history of this and other Mexican neighbourhoods in Chicago. His wife makes incredible home-made tamales, the best I've ever had.

    Antonius
    Last edited by Antonius on January 28th, 2013, 5:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
    Alle Nerven exzitiert von dem gewürzten Wein -- Anwandlung von Todesahndungen -- Doppeltgänger --
    - aus dem Tagebuch E.T.A. Hoffmanns, 6. Januar 1804.
    ________
    Na sir is na seachain an cath.
  • Post #10 - March 15th, 2005, 2:19 pm
    Post #10 - March 15th, 2005, 2:19 pm Post #10 - March 15th, 2005, 2:19 pm
    Halsted Packing is definetly a greek owned business. A few years back I purchased a fresh ham from them at Easter. While I was waiting I saw more than a few fresh killed, brown paper wrapped goat carcasses going out the door on the shoulders of what appeared to be a mostly Greek and Mexican clientele.
  • Post #11 - March 15th, 2005, 2:21 pm
    Post #11 - March 15th, 2005, 2:21 pm Post #11 - March 15th, 2005, 2:21 pm
    Hi,

    I have seen signs advertising goat meat in windows along Devon Avenue in the region roughly between California and Ridge.
    Cathy2

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  • Post #12 - March 15th, 2005, 2:55 pm
    Post #12 - March 15th, 2005, 2:55 pm Post #12 - March 15th, 2005, 2:55 pm
    Bismallah on Devon, just east of California I believe, has baby goat, whole or half (and quite possibly other cuts of goat). Also excellent baby lamb, better than I've ever seen at Noor (which I like quite a lot, but Bismallah gets my business for the half baby lamb).
  • Post #13 - March 15th, 2005, 2:58 pm
    Post #13 - March 15th, 2005, 2:58 pm Post #13 - March 15th, 2005, 2:58 pm
    Annieb:

    Can you give a rough idea of the cost for the half baby lamb? That sounds like an option for Easter i should perhaps try.

    A
    Alle Nerven exzitiert von dem gewürzten Wein -- Anwandlung von Todesahndungen -- Doppeltgänger --
    - aus dem Tagebuch E.T.A. Hoffmanns, 6. Januar 1804.
    ________
    Na sir is na seachain an cath.
  • Post #14 - March 15th, 2005, 2:59 pm
    Post #14 - March 15th, 2005, 2:59 pm Post #14 - March 15th, 2005, 2:59 pm
    Annie,

    Maybe you could also comment how you will prepare the baby lamb?

    BTW - I have received both books you recently recommended.

    Thank you!
    Cathy2

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  • Post #15 - March 15th, 2005, 4:05 pm
    Post #15 - March 15th, 2005, 4:05 pm Post #15 - March 15th, 2005, 4:05 pm
    Noor Meat at 2505 W. Devon sells whole and half goats.

    Another good butcher on Da'Bomb is Farm City at 2255 W. Devon (where one can also frequently find frozen camel meat.)

    Both places, I believe, are halal if that matters.

    Rob
  • Post #16 - March 16th, 2005, 10:23 am
    Post #16 - March 16th, 2005, 10:23 am Post #16 - March 16th, 2005, 10:23 am
    Antonius wrote:For what it's worth, a neighbour of mine, now retired, who hails from northern Mexico and worked many, many years in the packing industry here in Chicago, once told me that 90% of the "goat" sold in Chicago was in fact mutton.
    Antonius


    Well, mutton wouldn't be so bad. My wife and I actually prefer the more gamey taste of mutton and older lambs to baby lamb. It's also why we prefer to slow roast or even slow smoke (with very light smoke) the tougher fatter cuts over the very mild baby lamb chops.

    In fact, the one time we were in KC, MO we had BBQ 6 times in 72 hours and one of the most memorable was the mutton ribs at Gates and the only way you get any meat on the rib itself is with the older animals.

    I'll have to inquire about mutton ribs at some of these places you all mention.

    Thanks all for the info.
  • Post #17 - March 17th, 2005, 10:07 am
    Post #17 - March 17th, 2005, 10:07 am Post #17 - March 17th, 2005, 10:07 am
    as Rob notes, Farm City is a good place for goat. On Devon, it has generally the best looking goat around I've seen at the butcher shops around there, also the best prices.

    At a number of other places you can special order larger orders like whole or half goats
  • Post #18 - March 17th, 2005, 10:14 am
    Post #18 - March 17th, 2005, 10:14 am Post #18 - March 17th, 2005, 10:14 am
    zim wrote:At a number of other places you can special order larger orders like whole or half goats

    Zim,

    Both Peoria Packing and Grant Park Packing sell whole goat. As noted there are any number of places that sell goat, including Andy's on Kedzie, where I snapped this picture yesterday.

    Image

    Enjoy,
    Gary

    Andy's Fruit Ranch
    4725 N Kedzie Ave
    Chicago, IL 60625
    773-583-2322

    Peoria Packing
    1300 W Lake Street
    Chicago, IL 60607
    312-738-1800
    M-Sat 6am-5pm
    Sunday 9am-3pm

    Grant Park Packing
    842 W Lake
    Chicago, IL 60607
    312-421-4096
    One minute to Wapner.
    Raymond Babbitt

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  • Post #19 - March 17th, 2005, 1:17 pm
    Post #19 - March 17th, 2005, 1:17 pm Post #19 - March 17th, 2005, 1:17 pm
    Antonius,

    2 years ago I paid about $28 bucks for a half lamb. Cut in two pieces it fit perfectly in my large oval cazuela and fed four generously with not much left over, enough for a rice pilaf.

    Last year I got one, it was larger and was in the $30-$35 dollar range.

    The owner requires that you take either the head or the liver and kidneys. It is worth calling ahead if you want a particularly small one. I generally call and let him know when I'm going to purchase one, just to make sure he's got one on hand. I know I've found the number online, but I can't seem to find it now and am on deadline. It's just west of Republic Bank on Devon, a small storefront on the north side of the street.

    C2, I generally marinate with salt, pepper, some greek rigani off the branch, lemon, olive oil. Sometimes garlic sometimes not. Hope you enjoy the books.
  • Post #20 - January 23rd, 2012, 11:07 am
    Post #20 - January 23rd, 2012, 11:07 am Post #20 - January 23rd, 2012, 11:07 am
    Since the last post was in 2005, I thought I'd check up on places to buy goat shoulder. Is Farm City still a good option?
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  • Post #21 - January 23rd, 2012, 1:34 pm
    Post #21 - January 23rd, 2012, 1:34 pm Post #21 - January 23rd, 2012, 1:34 pm
    There's some discussion from 2010 (last time I went looking for goat) and I thought there was a Tribune article on finding goat as well...

    viewtopic.php?p=305624#p305624

    ah, found the link to the Trib article - also in 2010, but it looks like the Trib has hidden it well...

    viewtopic.php?p=303514#p303514

    a google search comes up with this, but it doesn't talk too much about where to buy it
    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010 ... -meat-menu
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  • Post #22 - January 23rd, 2012, 5:28 pm
    Post #22 - January 23rd, 2012, 5:28 pm Post #22 - January 23rd, 2012, 5:28 pm
    Hi,

    I've purchased goat at Pete's Fresh Market at 47th and Kedzie pretty regularly. It's not there every time I go, but usually I see it on weekends. Very tender and mild.
  • Post #23 - January 23rd, 2012, 8:32 pm
    Post #23 - January 23rd, 2012, 8:32 pm Post #23 - January 23rd, 2012, 8:32 pm
    I'm pretty sure that Nea Agora on Taylor does goat as well as lamb.
  • Post #24 - January 24th, 2012, 11:49 am
    Post #24 - January 24th, 2012, 11:49 am Post #24 - January 24th, 2012, 11:49 am
    Antonius wrote:For what it's worth, a neighbour of mine, now retired, who hails from northern Mexico and worked many, many years in the packing industry here in Chicago, once told me that 90% of the "goat" sold in Chicago was in fact mutton. Now, for various reasons I am inclined very much to believe he knows whereof he speaks, though his statement may be one that was more true in times past, when he was still in the business, than it is now. Demographic changes and changes within the industry may since have made real goat more available, but according to my neighbour this was a widespread form of cheating: selling cheap mutton as the more expensive and harder to get goat.

    This gentleman is an amazing source of information on matters [i]norte


    I don't believe it for a second!
    I regularly purchase goat at Hispanic markets, it's fairly easy to tell from lamb visually and definitely easy to tell by taste.
    Hispanic markets get it sawn and frozen in pieces. Fresh farms may have fresh goat.
    Call and talk with the manager and ask specifically if the goat has ever been frozen. He is a nice guy to deal with.
    Frankly the quality of the goat in Hispanic markets is quite good and is not mutton at all.
    It's actually hard to find mutton these days and I don't know of a single retail store that sells mutton.-Dick
  • Post #25 - January 24th, 2012, 1:44 pm
    Post #25 - January 24th, 2012, 1:44 pm Post #25 - January 24th, 2012, 1:44 pm
    How about the mighty, but invisible to LTH, Olympic Packing, which definitely sports goat.

    810 West Randolph Street, Chicago, IL
    (312) 666-2222
  • Post #26 - January 24th, 2012, 2:04 pm
    Post #26 - January 24th, 2012, 2:04 pm Post #26 - January 24th, 2012, 2:04 pm
    JeffB wrote:How about the mighty, but invisible to LTH, Olympic Packing, which definitely sports goat.

    810 West Randolph Street, Chicago, IL
    (312) 666-2222

    They most definitely sport goat.

    Olympia Meats
    Image
  • Post #27 - January 24th, 2012, 2:37 pm
    Post #27 - January 24th, 2012, 2:37 pm Post #27 - January 24th, 2012, 2:37 pm
    What is the parking like around there, noonish? I wonder if I can make it there on my lunch break.
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love

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  • Post #28 - January 24th, 2012, 2:58 pm
    Post #28 - January 24th, 2012, 2:58 pm Post #28 - January 24th, 2012, 2:58 pm
    Pie Lady wrote:What is the parking like around there, noonish? I wonder if I can make it there on my lunch break.

    On their window Olympia advertises free customer parking. I'm sure they can tell you more.
  • Post #29 - January 24th, 2012, 3:27 pm
    Post #29 - January 24th, 2012, 3:27 pm Post #29 - January 24th, 2012, 3:27 pm
    Try

    Chicago Zabiha Halal Meat Market
    2243 W. Devon
    Chicago, IL

    Fantastic, fresh, goat cut from whole legs or shoulders. They may even have ribs.
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  • Post #30 - January 26th, 2012, 12:43 pm
    Post #30 - January 26th, 2012, 12:43 pm Post #30 - January 26th, 2012, 12:43 pm
    Forgot about Chicago Zabiha Halal Meat Market!
    I used to purchase goat from them years ago when SuperMercardos were not so prevalent.
    Devon St in that area is just so hard to navigate and with off street sticker parking, it's usually a zoo, so i haven't purchased there in many years but if you can get through the traffic and parking, you will get good fresh goat.-Dick

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