budrichard wrote:"Cocktail sauce is almost universally the condiment served alongside oysters,"
Not in New Orleans at the Acme Oyster House. Tabasco is the condiment provided. I have switched to Crystal after having Crystal at Commander's Palace many years ago. Crystal is not as hot and maybe a little sweeter and you can savor the food more, rather than the heat.-Dick
jesteinf wrote:I like a little squeeze of lemon as I feel like it compliments both the liquor and the oyster. Cocktail sauce is a definite no-no.
jesteinf wrote:I like a little squeeze of lemon as I feel like it compliments both the liquor and the oyster. Cocktail sauce is a definite no-no.
David Hammond wrote:Cocktail Sauce Has Its Place…But Not on My Oyster
She told me that her understanding was that cocktail sauce was developed in the Midwest, years ago, to cover the slightly rotten taste of oysters that had been shipped from the East (due diligence googling has not yet validated this origin myth – if you have any theories, I’d love to hear them).
David Hammond wrote:[he told me that her understanding was that cocktail sauce was developed in the Midwest, years ago, to cover the slightly rotten taste of oysters that had been shipped from the East (due diligence googling has not yet validated this origin myth – if you have any theories, I’d love to hear them).
In those days before refrigeration, Murray explained, oysters were sent by train (or in some cases canal barge) in big barrels, padded (and I suppose insulated somewhat )with sawdust. Spoilage would not have been uncommon.
stevez wrote:David Hammond wrote:[he told me that her understanding was that cocktail sauce was developed in the Midwest, years ago, to cover the slightly rotten taste of oysters that had been shipped from the East (due diligence googling has not yet validated this origin myth – if you have any theories, I’d love to hear them).
In those days before refrigeration, Murray explained, oysters were sent by train (or in some cases canal barge) in big barrels, padded (and I suppose insulated somewhat )with sawdust. Spoilage would not have been uncommon.
No amount of cocktail sauce can cover up the taste (or after effects) of spoiled oysters. I'm doubting this theory big time. Personally, back when I was allowed to eat them, a naked oyster with an occasional squeeze of lemon was my preferred style.
toria wrote:So if someone would want to try oysters for the first time in a restaurant (not buy and bring home) what would be the best place to do it in the Chicago area to ensure they were fresh, served correctly, and cost effective?
jesteinf wrote:toria wrote:So if someone would want to try oysters for the first time in a restaurant (not buy and bring home) what would be the best place to do it in the Chicago area to ensure they were fresh, served correctly, and cost effective?
My 3 favorite places for oysters right now are Balsan, The Publican, and GT Fish & Oyster. If you've never had oysters, I'd recommend GT as they usually have several varieties to choose from (both east and west coast) and their servers are pretty knowledgeable. IIRC, their selection tends to be just slightly larger than Publican. Really, though, you can't go wrong at any of the three.
toria wrote:So if someone would want to try oysters for the first time in a restaurant (not buy and bring home) what would be the best place to do it in the Chicago area to ensure they were fresh, served correctly, and cost effective?
Monday Feb 6 will be the next 50 cent Oyster Monday at Shaw's Oyster Bar, 3-6pm. Slurp slurp slurp!
teatpuller wrote:I can't imagine a worse combo than raw oysters and cocktail sauce. Does anyone actually do this?
David Hammond wrote:I like cocktail sauce. Every Thanksgiving, we prepare our own with catsup, horseradish, lemon and hot sauce. We started making our own after we realized that we could never get a store brand with enough horseradish tang.
budrichard wrote:"Cocktail sauce is almost universally the condiment served alongside oysters,"
Not in New Orleans at the Acme Oyster House. Tabasco is the condiment provided. I have switched to Crystal after having Crystal at Commander's Palace many years ago. Crystal is not as hot and maybe a little sweeter and you can savor the food more, rather than the heat.-Dick
David Hammond wrote:A few days ago, I was talking with Erin Murray, a nice lady who wrote a book, Shucked, about leaving her desk job and working on an oyster farm. She told me that her understanding was that cocktail sauce was developed in the Midwest, years ago, to cover the slightly rotten taste of oysters that had been shipped from the East (due diligence googling has not yet validated this origin myth – if you have any theories, I’d love to hear them).
In those days before refrigeration, Murray explained, oysters were sent by train (or in some cases canal barge) in big barrels, padded (and I suppose insulated somewhat )with sawdust. Spoilage would not have been uncommon.
In 1889 the New York Sun wrote:"Yes," said an old Californian last evening in Delmonico's, "a dash of absinthe is good in a cocktail but there is a cocktail we get in San Francisco that knocks out any of your cocktails here. It's the oyster cocktail." Not one of a dozen New Yorkers who sat at the table had ever heard of an oyster cocktail. Continuing, the Californian said: "Put half a dozen to a dozen small oysters into a goblet or beer glass, with enough of the liquor to cover them. Salt, pepper, catsup, a dash of Tobasco sauce, half a spoonful of Worcestershire, two or three spoonfuls of vinegar, and sometimes a pinch of horseradish. Stir it up with a spoon and drink it down. It's hot, but it's food for the stomach to work on at night. The oyster cocktail is as much of an institution in San Francisco as the whiskey cocktail is here.
stevez wrote:Personally, back when I was allowed to eat them,