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    Post #1 - March 28th, 2008, 1:18 pm
    Post #1 - March 28th, 2008, 1:18 pm Post #1 - March 28th, 2008, 1:18 pm
    Edna Ferber on food

    Among the most shamefully neglected writers of the 20th century is Edna Ferber (1885-1968), perhaps best known as the author of "Show Boat," which inspired the Kern and Hammerstein musical. Her novel "So Big" won the Pulitzer Prize. Much of her work concentrates on the plight of working people, especially women.

    Born in Kalamazoo, Mich., Ferber spent her formative years in Chicago; Ottumwa, Iowa; and Appleton, Wis. She started her writing career as a journalist on the Milwaukee Journal and later came to Chicago, where she began to write short stories, often using the city as a setting. Her vivid descriptions practically make the city one of the characters, and although none of her works have food as their main topic, the subject comes up frequently, in wonderfully evocative detail.

    You can find much of Ferber's early work online free at Project Gutenberg and the extraordinary Manybooks. Here's a small sampling:

    From "Home Girl" in "Gigolo," 1922:
      Wilson avenue, Chicago, is not merely an avenue but a district; not only a district but a state of mind; not a state of mind alone but a condition of morals. For that matter, it is none of these things so much as a mode of existence. If you know your Chicago—which you probably don't—(sotto voce murmur, Heaven forbid!)—you are aware that, long ago, Wilson Avenue proper crept slyly around the corner and achieved a clandestine alliance with big glittering Sheridan Road; which escapade changed the demure thoroughfare into Wilson Avenue improper.

      When one says "A Wilson Avenue girl," the mind—that is, the Chicago mind—pictures immediately a slim, daring, scented, exotic creature dressed in next week's fashions; wise-eyed; doll-faced; rapacious. When chiffon stockings are worn Wilson Avenue's hosiery is but a film over the flesh. Aigrettes and mink coats are its winter uniform. A feverish district this, all plate glass windows and delicatessen dinners and one-room-and-kitchenette apartments, where light housekeepers take their housekeeping too lightly.

      At six o'clock you are likely to see Wilson Avenue scurrying about in its mink coat and its French heels and its crêpe frock, assembling its haphazard dinner. Wilson Avenue food, as displayed in the ready-cooked shops, resembles in a startling degree the Wilson Avenue ladies themselves: highly coloured, artificial, chemically treated, tempting to the eye, but unnutritious. In and out of the food emporia these dart, buying dabs of this and bits of that. Chromatic viands. Vivid scarlet, orange, yellow, green. A strip of pimento here. A mound of mayonnaise there. A green pepper stuffed with such burden of deceit as no honest green pepper ever was meant to hold. Two eggs. A quarter-pound of your best creamery butter. An infinitesimal bottle of cream. "And what else?" says the plump woman in the white bib-apron, behind the counter. "And what else?" Nothing. I guess that'll be all. Mink coats prefer to dine out.

              * * *
    From "Mameys from Cuba" in "Buttered Side Down," 1912:
      Just off State Street there is a fruiterer and importer who ought to be arrested for cruelty. His window is the most fascinating and the most heartless in Chicago. A line of open-mouthed, wide-eyed gazers is always to be found before it. Despair, wonder, envy, and rebellion smolder in the eyes of those gazers. No shop window show should be so diabolically set forth as to arouse such sensations in the breast of the beholder. It is a work of art, that window; a breeder of anarchism, a destroyer of contentment, a second feast of Tantalus. It boasts peaches, dewy and golden, when peaches have no right to be; plethoric, purple bunches of English hothouse grapes are there to taunt the ten-dollar-a-week clerk whose sick wife should be in the hospital; strawberries glow therein when shortcake is a last summer's memory, and forced cucumbers remind us that we are taking ours in the form of dill pickles. There is, perhaps, a choice head of cauliflower, so exquisite in its ivory and green perfection as to be fit for a bride's bouquet; there are apples so flawless that if the garden of Eden grew any as perfect it is small wonder that Eve fell for them.

      There are fresh mushrooms, and jumbo cocoanuts, and green almonds; costly things in beds of cotton nestle next to strange and marvelous things in tissue, wrappings. Oh, that window is no place for the hungry, the dissatisfied, or the man out of a job. When the air is filled with snow there is that in the sight of muskmelons which incites crime.

              * * *
    From "Roast Beef, Medium: The Business Adventures of Emma McChesney," 1913:
      There were rows of plump fowls in the butcher-shop windows, and juicy roasts. The cunning hand of the butcher had enhanced the redness of the meat by trimmings of curly parsley. Salad things and new vegetables glowed behind the grocers' plate-glass. There were the tender green of lettuces, the coral of tomatoes, the brown-green of stout asparagus stalks, bins of spring peas and beans, and carrots, and bunches of greens for soup. There came over the businesslike soul of Emma McChesney a wild longing to go in and select a ten-pound roast, taking care that there should be just the right proportion of creamy fat and red meat. She wanted to go in and poke her fingers in the ribs of a broiler. She wanted to order wildly of sweet potatoes and vegetables, and soup bones, and apples for pies. She ached to turn back her sleeves and don a blue-and-white checked apron and roll out noodles.

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    From "Dawn O'Hara," 1911:
      Cakes! What a pale; dry name to apply to those crumbling, melting, indigestible German confections! Blackie grinned with enjoyment while I gazed. There were cakes the like of which I had never seen and of which I did not even know the names. There were little round cup cakes made of almond paste that melts in the mouth; there were Schnecken glazed with a delicious candied brown sugar; there were Bismarcks composed of layer upon layer of flaky crust inlaid with an oozy custard that evades the eager consumer at the first bite, and that slides down one's collar when chased with a pursuing tongue. There were Pfeffernusse; there, were Lebkuchen; there were cheese-kuchen; plum-kuchen, peach-kuchen, Apfelkuchen, the juicy fruit stuck thickly into the crust, the whole dusted over with powdered sugar. There were Torten, and Hornchen, and butter cookies.
  • Post #2 - March 29th, 2008, 12:44 pm
    Post #2 - March 29th, 2008, 12:44 pm Post #2 - March 29th, 2008, 12:44 pm
    Thanks for the great passages. I loved reading Edna Ferber when I was a teenager, but I didn't realize she had so many Chicago-set stories. The food descriptions are luscious.

    Some novels and stories just make you hungry. One example of fiction that made me hungry is, of all things, Thomas Mann's Magie Mountain with its five meals a day (including that wonderful German invention, the "second breakfast" or zweites fruestueck). In between the philosophical discussions, the TB patients were always being served another meal to give them strength. And table manners are vital in Mann's novel Buddenbrooks, where a suitor is rejected, if I recall correctly, for eating fish (herring?) with a knife.

    Thanks again, LAZ, for a very enjoyable post.

    EvA
  • Post #3 - May 29th, 2008, 9:00 pm
    Post #3 - May 29th, 2008, 9:00 pm Post #3 - May 29th, 2008, 9:00 pm
    In the recently released book Windy City by Scott Simon (Random House), the protagonist is the alderman of the 48th ward. He owns an Indian restaurant on Devon. This is a comical political novel with a food-centric bent. Italian, Mexican, Korean BBQ, etc, food are featured with some length and some authority.

    Excerpt from page 8/9 about this fictionalized Chicago mayor:

    excerpt of Windy City by Scott Simon wrote:It was the mayor’s habit to have one extra-large pizza from Quattro’s delivered to City Hall by ten each night, after he had returned from an evening’s round of appearances. His standing order specified cheese and prosciutto. When the staff at Quattro’s deduced the pizza was destined for City Hall, they spontaneously contributed extra glistening strips of onions and grilled peppers. His security guards joked that two officers were required to carry the pizza across the threshold of the mayor’s office; it felt like carrying a manhole cover in your arms. So much cheese had been loaded onto the pizza that when anyone took a bite – an endeavor that involved opening’s one’s mouth as if for a molar examination – they had to pull gluey strings away from their teeth to almost the length of their arms.

    Most politicians groused that over an evening of cocktail receptions, fund-raising dinners, and precinct meetings, they never got a chance to eat. They needed to keep both hands free for handshakes and clapping shoulders. They couldn’t chance that a sprig of parsley from a canapé might blemish their smile and photograph like a vagrants’s missing tooth. They didn’t want to be seen swallowing steak tartare on a round of toast, only to be asked, “Do you know how that cow was slaughtered?”

    But the mayor’s immense appetite was too well publicized for him to plead self-restraint. He risked political peril if he appeared indifferent to the specialties of any neighborhood. This guaranteed that on any given night, the mayor consumed cheese pierogi, chickpea samosas, pistachio-studded cannolis, and/or sugar-dusted Mexican crescent cookies in his nightly rounds. And consumed then in toto, for half portions were considered fraught with risk. “How can I tell the good citizens of Pilsen that I have to go easy on the magnificent tres leches cake,” he remonstrated, “because I’m saving room for the ale cake in Canaryville? They might suspect that I truly like only two of the tres leches. I mean, when they’ve seen me make room for the packzi in Logan Square” … “how do I explain any diminution in my commitment to the pastry of Pilsen? A man has to consider the consequences before he keeps his mouth shut.”

    So the Quattro’s pizza would be waiting at the mayor’s office as a reward for his duodenal daring. He would lift the top of the box with a great, yeasty smile.

    “Goodness gracious, our citizens mean well,” the mayor would explain as steam from the pizza seemed to plump his whitening eyebrows. “I can’t disappoint them. How can a man of my positively legendary cravings ever convince anyone that I can’t have just one more bite? I turn my nose up at a shrimp and ginger wonton, I risk offending the entire Fifteenth Ward. I just might have to put up new traffic lights up and down Canal Street. Bibimbop, halvah, or chitterlings, a man in my position can’t refuse hospitality. It does not promote domestic tranquility. These days that’s practically a matter of national security. It is positively antediluvian not to recognize that.”

    The mayor sprinkled antediluvian over his conversation like fresh cracked pepper; he believed it made everything tastier. He excoriated all political rivals as antediluvian, the state and federal governments – and any other daily source of irritation, including the city’s newspapers, banks, and any restaurants that did not deliver beyond a twelve-block radius.


    That’s the best part of the book, but the rest is still pretty good. Any fan of Chicago food and local politics should read this novel.

    -ramon
  • Post #4 - May 30th, 2008, 9:52 am
    Post #4 - May 30th, 2008, 9:52 am Post #4 - May 30th, 2008, 9:52 am
    Is this NPR's Scott Simon?
    "Strange how potent cheap music is."
  • Post #5 - May 30th, 2008, 2:17 pm
    Post #5 - May 30th, 2008, 2:17 pm Post #5 - May 30th, 2008, 2:17 pm
    mrbarolo wrote:Is this NPR's Scott Simon?

    Yes.
    Joe G.

    "Whatever may be wrong with the world, at least it has some good things to eat." -- Cowboy Jack Clement
  • Post #6 - August 21st, 2008, 1:56 am
    Post #6 - August 21st, 2008, 1:56 am Post #6 - August 21st, 2008, 1:56 am
      South Water Street -- a jam of delivery wagons and market carts backed to the curbs, leaving only a tortuous path between the endless files of horses, suggestive of an actual barrack of cavalry. Provisions, market produce, "garden truck" and fruits, in an infinite welter of crates and baskets, boxes, and sacks, crowded the sidewalks. The gutter was choked with an overflow of refuse cabbage leaves, soft oranges, decaying beet tops. The air was thick with the heavy smell of vegetation. Food was trodden under foot, food crammed the stores and warehouses to bursting. Food mingled with the mud of the highway. The very dray horses were gorged with an unending nourishment of snatched mouthfuls picked from backboard, from barrel top, and from the edge of the sidewalk. The entire locality reeked with the fatness of a hundred thousand furrows. A land of plenty, the inordinate abundance of the earth itself emptied itself upon the asphalt and cobbles of the quarter. It was the Mouth of the City, and drawn from all directions, over a territory of immense area, this glut of crude subsistence was sucked in, as if into a rapacious gullet, to feed the sinews and to nourish the fibres of an immeasurable colossus.

    "The Pit" is the second saga in Norris' unfinished "Trilogy of The Epic of the Wheat." The cycle begins with "The Octopus," an otherwise unrelated novel that covers disputes between wheat growers and a railway trust in California. (Norris died before he started the third book, which was to cover wheat as bread relieving famine in Europe.)

    The absorbing second novel follows Laura Dearborn, a well-to-do young woman recently come to Chicago, as she commences wedded life against a background of wheat speculating at the Board of Trade. Laura is a rather tiresome, stupid woman, but Norris describes her life in the city enthrallingly, and his business scenes -- loosely based on the young Chicago tycoon Joseph Leiter's 1890s corner on the wheat market -- make the clashes between Bulls and Bears surprisingly thrilling.

    While some legal and technical changes in commodities trading have occured since the turn of the 20th century, and the CBOT's historic trading floor has been demolished, the basics remain the same today as in Norris' day, a hundred years ago:

      Think of it, the food of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people just at the mercy of a few men down there on the Board of Trade. They make the price. They say just how much the peasant shall pay for his loaf of bread. If he can't pay the price he simply starves. And as for the farmer, why it's ludicrous. If I build a house and offer it for sale, I put my own price on it, and if the price offered don't suit me I don't sell. But if I go out here in Iowa and raise a crop of wheat, I've got to sell it, whether I want to or not, at the figure named by some fellows in Chicago. And to make themselves rich, they may make me sell it at a price that bankrupts me.
  • Post #7 - August 22nd, 2008, 12:35 am
    Post #7 - August 22nd, 2008, 12:35 am Post #7 - August 22nd, 2008, 12:35 am
    There are so many food references, meal descriptions, and discussions about wine, cooking, and dining in Patrick O'Brian's 19 novels about the British Navy -- a.k.a. the Aubrey/Maturn deries—that a cookbook was written by a couple of fans of the series. The cookbook, Lobscouse and Spotted Dog, features recipes mentioned in the Aubrey/Maturn series, telling in which book the mentions occur. The cookbook provides an astonishingly broad view of cooking in the 1700s, pretty much anywhere the British sailed, which was everywhere. The descriptions of food in the novels are richer, more detailed, and more hunger-inducing, but the cookbook is more fun for those interested in historic meals. Of course, one wouldn't want to create all the recipes, as the cookbook includes some of the "emergency" foods to which sailors had to resort, including rats. But on the whole, the dishes offered are splendid. My brother and a group of his friends -- all huge fans of O'Brian's work -- once created a dinner based on the books -- which cost them a fortune, as hero Jack Aubrey has expensive taste -- but goose stuffed with truffles and foie gras pie are not bad things to bring to a party.
    "All great change in America begins at the dinner table." Ronald Reagan

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  • Post #8 - August 25th, 2008, 10:51 am
    Post #8 - August 25th, 2008, 10:51 am Post #8 - August 25th, 2008, 10:51 am
    Anyone that hasn't read any Jim Harrison should do so promptly. Not only is his food writing spectacular (collected in "The Raw and the Cooked: The Adventures of a Roving Gourmand" http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Cooked-Advent ... 181&sr=1-2 ), but his fiction is absolutely brimming with the stuff of life: namely, food, drink, and the opposite sex.

    -parker
    "Who says I despair?...I like to eat crawfish and drink beer. That's despair?"--Walker Percy
  • Post #9 - August 25th, 2008, 11:17 am
    Post #9 - August 25th, 2008, 11:17 am Post #9 - August 25th, 2008, 11:17 am
    I'm an avid reader, and have been since I was young.

    To this day I can still recall the first piece of food in fiction that made an impact on me, though I no longer remember the book's title, author or plot, though I do remember the descriptions of food.

    The book was set in New York at perhaps the turn of the 20th century, and the memorable scene described a family that was spending a day out in the city. Each child had been given a small amount (a couple pennies? 5 cents? a dime?) to spend as each saw fit, and the author described their purchases. I remember that one child bought penny candy, and the author lingered over the descriptions of each item at the candy store, and the child's selection. Another character in the book bought hot buttered peas--served in a wax paper cone. I've never been a huge fan of peas, but after reading that passage I certainly wanted to try peas in a paper cone.

    I remember savoring the food passages in that book. Seldom have I reread books, but I know that I returned to that passage time and time again, so the details are still imprinted in my mind some 30 years later.
  • Post #10 - August 26th, 2008, 1:08 pm
    Post #10 - August 26th, 2008, 1:08 pm Post #10 - August 26th, 2008, 1:08 pm
    I can't quite recall or provide links to any of these, but my father and a shelf full of original Horation Alger books which I read as I was growing up. In it, the barely surviving newsboy heros would occasionally scrape together just enough to go into some dive and there would be a description of the warm, steamy atmosphere coming in from the winter streets, and then the order of a plate of oyster stew for 15 cents. As a kid I always wondered what this ubiquitous poor man's food was, this oyster stew.
    I also had a book as a child, whose title I foget, that was about a french boy and his mother starving during the occupation of Paris. At the end, the GIs come in and liberate and one of them is billeted with the family and the GI can't understand the paltry thinness of crepes. He brings with him a box of Aunt Jemima pancake mix and prepares them a huge American breakfast of big fluffy pancakes with maple syrup. It's a great scene and a great description of familiar food rendered as exotic through the French boy's POV.
    There are also, somewhat surprisingly, some wonderful funny/strange food vignettes scattered throughout the novels of Beckett. "Murphy" in particular, as I recall: the way he likes his toast, the way he orders and consumes tea at a tea shop.
    "Strange how potent cheap music is."
  • Post #11 - May 4th, 2009, 11:08 am
    Post #11 - May 4th, 2009, 11:08 am Post #11 - May 4th, 2009, 11:08 am
    There's an amusing piece in Sunday's New York Times Book Review by Geoff Nicholson about literary descriptions of bad food. I love Thomas Pynchon's description in Gravity's Rainbow of the effects of a particularly hideous English coughdrop, Meggezone, on Tyrone Slothrop:
    “Polar bears seek toenail-holds up the freezing frosty-grape alveolar clusters in his lungs.”
  • Post #12 - August 29th, 2009, 3:07 pm
    Post #12 - August 29th, 2009, 3:07 pm Post #12 - August 29th, 2009, 3:07 pm
    Michael Chabon creates a whole imagined world of a Yiddish-speaking Jewish territory in Alaska (an alternative history in which the Holocaust is diminished but not eliminated and the state of Israel does not survive its War of Independence), crossed with a hard-boiled detective story, in his wonderful 2007 novel, The Yiddish Policemen's Union. Chabon has a prodigiously fertile imagination, and his District of Sitka includes some eating and drinking, of course. Naturally, there is hard drinking by the hard-boiled detective: slivovitz shots. Besides the usual suspects of Eastern European Jewish cooking--noodle kugel, blintzes, brisket--he imagines a unique treat: the shtekeleh. (A shtekel is a stick or wand, and the "eh" ending is a diminutive.) And what is this food? Something I would love to try, a dish born in Jewish Alaska, recipe by Filipinos cooking Chinese in kosher oil:

    The Filipino-style Chinese donut, or shtekeleh, is the great contribution of the District of Sitka to the food lovers of the world. In its present form, it cannot be found in the Philippines. No Chinese trencherman would recognize it as the fruit of his native fry kettles. Like the storm god Yahweh of Sumeria, the shtekeleh was not invented by the Jews, but the world would sport neither God nor the shtekeleh without Jews and their desires. A panatela of fried dough not quite sweet, not quite salty, rolled in sugar, crisp-skinned, tender inside, and honeycombed with air pockets. You sink it in your paper cup of milky tea and close your eyes, and for ten fat seconds, you seem to glimpse the possibility of finer things.
  • Post #13 - August 29th, 2009, 5:47 pm
    Post #13 - August 29th, 2009, 5:47 pm Post #13 - August 29th, 2009, 5:47 pm
    I always loved this passage from All the King's Men, which reminds me of how my mother oversees her table.

    Robert Penn Warren, in All the King's Men wrote:We sat down at the table, Old Man Talos at one end and Lucy at the other. Lucy wiped the perspiration-soaked wisp of hair back from her face, and gave that last-minute look around the table to see if anything was missing, like a general inspecting troops – the gesture and the look of the good woman who knows how to set a good table, and knows how good she is and it is, and by God won’t stand any nonsense out of you if you try to doge that third piece of fried chicken which sooner or later she would start your way like death and taxes. She was in her element, all right. She had been out of it for a long time, but when you dropped her back in it she hit running, like a cat out of a sack.

    The jaws got to work around the table, and she watched them work. She sat there, not eating much and keeping a sharp eye out for a vacant place on any plate and watching the jaws work, and as she sat there, her face seemed to smooth itself out and relax with an inner faith in happiness the way the face of the chief engineer does when he goes down to the engine room at night and the big wheel is blurred out with its speed and the pistons plunge and return and the big steel throws are leaping in their perfect orbits like a ballet, and the whole place, under the electric glare, hums and glitters and sings like the eternal insides of God’s head, and the ship is knocking off twenty-two knots on a glassy, starlit sea.
  • Post #14 - August 31st, 2009, 11:10 am
    Post #14 - August 31st, 2009, 11:10 am Post #14 - August 31st, 2009, 11:10 am
    Great topic. I feel the work of Spanish/Catalan author Manuel Vázquez Montalbán would really need to be mentioned here, particularly his 20+ book Carvahlo series. Pepe Carvahlo is an ex-CIA, book-burning detective in Barcelona (normally) who also happens to have a penchant for all things delicious. He will accordingly interrupt his investigations of Barcelona's dark underbelly to fulfill his gastronomical necessities, which Montalbán describes in wonderful detail. Montalbán, a gourmand himself, cleverly incorporates his own love of Catalan and Spanish cuisines into these works of historical fiction.

    An author of other cookbooks as well, Montalbán wound up writing "Las recetas de Carvahlo" which describes the food his famous gumshoe enjoys in his novels.

    Several of Montalbán's books from the Carvahlo series have been translated into English, and I would highly recommend them, even more so for food-lovers who might be travelling to or residing in Spain or Barcelona, in the same sense that a person might read The Devil in the White City before visiting Chicago or while living here. Except, instead of talking so much about the Ferris wheel, the descriptions might be about a stew, a braised rabbit, a piece of toast, or the like.

    MKL
  • Post #15 - August 31st, 2009, 4:34 pm
    Post #15 - August 31st, 2009, 4:34 pm Post #15 - August 31st, 2009, 4:34 pm
    chgoeditor wrote:The book was set in New York at perhaps the turn of the 20th century, and the memorable scene described a family that was spending a day out in the city. Each child had been given a small amount (a couple pennies? 5 cents? a dime?) to spend as each saw fit, and the author described their purchases. I remember that one child bought penny candy, and the author lingered over the descriptions of each item at the candy store, and the child's selection. Another character in the book bought hot buttered peas--served in a wax paper cone. I've never been a huge fan of peas, but after reading that passage I certainly wanted to try peas in a paper cone.

    I remember savoring the food passages in that book. Seldom have I reread books, but I know that I returned to that passage time and time again, so the details are still imprinted in my mind some 30 years later.
    Was this A Tree Grows in Brooklyn? I don't remember the peas but that's the right timeframe and there is a detailed description of buying candy at a penny-candy store. However, I think the store is in Brooklyn and not New York.

    In ATGIB, the family is very poor, but their one extravagance is unlimited coffee, and I often think of that when making coffee.

    It's a wonderful book for those who have never read it.
    "things like being careful with your coriander/ that's what makes the gravy grander" - Sondheim
  • Post #16 - September 26th, 2010, 9:42 pm
    Post #16 - September 26th, 2010, 9:42 pm Post #16 - September 26th, 2010, 9:42 pm
    I'm rereading "Candide" in preparation for the Goodman Theatre production.

    Voltaire wrote:Immediately two waiters and two girls, dressed in cloth of gold, and their hair tied up with ribbons, invited them to sit down to table with the landlord. They served four dishes of soup, each garnished with two young parrots; a boiled condor which weighed two hundred pounds; two roasted monkeys, of excellent flavour; three hundred humming-birds in one dish, and six hundred fly-birds in another; exquisite ragouts; delicious pastries; the whole served up in dishes of a kind of rock-crystal. The waiters and girls poured out several liqueurs drawn from the sugar-cane.
  • Post #17 - September 27th, 2010, 6:20 am
    Post #17 - September 27th, 2010, 6:20 am Post #17 - September 27th, 2010, 6:20 am
    chgoeditor wrote:The book was set in New York at perhaps the turn of the 20th century, and the memorable scene described a family that was spending a day out in the city. Each child had been given a small amount (a couple pennies? 5 cents? a dime?) to spend as each saw fit, and the author described their purchases. I remember that one child bought penny candy, and the author lingered over the descriptions of each item at the candy store, and the child's selection. Another character in the book bought hot buttered peas--served in a wax paper cone. I've never been a huge fan of peas, but after reading that passage I certainly wanted to try peas in a paper cone.


    I read and re-read that book many times myself, but can't remember the name. I do recall it was about a large Jewish family with many daughters, that it was a series of books, and it culminated in the birth of a son (something that aggravated me quite a bit as a pint-sized feminist - all of those kids and they finally got one that "counted"? Oy vey.). Perhaps you could submit the question to Tomato Nation's "Guess That Book" feature.
    As a mattra-fact, Pie Face, you are beginning to look almost human. - Barbara Bennett
  • Post #18 - September 27th, 2010, 8:05 am
    Post #18 - September 27th, 2010, 8:05 am Post #18 - September 27th, 2010, 8:05 am
    I have a copy of A Debt to Pleasure by John Lanchester that for some reason I can't get into. Has anyone else read it?
    I want to have a good body, but not as much as I want dessert. ~ Jason Love

    There is no pie in Nighthawks, which is why it's such a desolate image. ~ Happy Stomach

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  • Post #19 - September 27th, 2010, 8:09 am
    Post #19 - September 27th, 2010, 8:09 am Post #19 - September 27th, 2010, 8:09 am
    Suzy Creamcheese wrote:
    chgoeditor wrote:The book was set in New York at perhaps the turn of the 20th century, and the memorable scene described a family that was spending a day out in the city. Each child had been given a small amount (a couple pennies? 5 cents? a dime?) to spend as each saw fit, and the author described their purchases. I remember that one child bought penny candy, and the author lingered over the descriptions of each item at the candy store, and the child's selection. Another character in the book bought hot buttered peas--served in a wax paper cone. I've never been a huge fan of peas, but after reading that passage I certainly wanted to try peas in a paper cone.


    I read and re-read that book many times myself, but can't remember the name. I do recall it was about a large Jewish family with many daughters, that it was a series of books, and it culminated in the birth of a son (something that aggravated me quite a bit as a pint-sized feminist - all of those kids and they finally got one that "counted"? Oy vey.). Perhaps you could submit the question to Tomato Nation's "Guess That Book" feature.

    I think you might be thinking of All-of-a-Kind Family by Sydney Taylor and its sequels. My kids loved those books, and I enjoyed reading them aloud too. I think the girls counted, although no question that the birth of a boy after so many girls was a big deal in the family.
  • Post #20 - January 27th, 2011, 12:42 pm
    Post #20 - January 27th, 2011, 12:42 pm Post #20 - January 27th, 2011, 12:42 pm
    I've been delving into Egyptian fiction recently, actually started before the protests in Cairo really escalated. I was inspired by a review contemporary Egyptian fiction in Harper's. Anyway, I just finished reading Sun' Allah Ibrahim's novella The Committee. Fans of Kafka should check it out; it also had tinges, I thought, of Saramago.

    The Committee is about an unnamed Egyptian man who goes before a mysterious committee for some kind of review and ultimately sentencing. "Coca-Cola" is a recurring image in the book, used to suggest paranoia, conspiracy, globalization, humor and all that we consume. One of the first questions the Committee asks the protagonist is: "By which momentous event among the wars, revolutions, or inventions will our century be remembered in the future?"

    His answer is Coca-Cola:
    Sun' Allah Ibrahim in The Committee wrote:We will not find, your honors, among all that I have mentioned, anything that embodies the civilization of this century or its accomplishments, let alone its future, like this svelte little bottle...

    [...]

    It is found nearly everywhere, both north and south, from Finland and Alaska to Australia and South Africa. Its return to China after a thirty-year absence is one of the headlines which will shape the history of the century. While the words used for God and love and happiness vary from one country to another and from one language to another, 'Coca-Cola' means the same thing in all places and all tongues. Furthermore, its ingredients will not run out, for they can be easily cultivated. People won't give up this palate-tickling taste because of its power to create a habit that approaches addiction.
  • Post #21 - April 13th, 2011, 5:24 am
    Post #21 - April 13th, 2011, 5:24 am Post #21 - April 13th, 2011, 5:24 am
    Could it be that there is no mention of Rabelais on LTH? I read the French Renaissance author's Gargantua and Pantagruel -- the fantastic adventures of father and son giants -- many years ago though the 16th-century French was hard going at the time (and still). So, what does one do when confronted with a sleepless bout at 2am? Seek out Rabelais in English, of course! Thanks, Project Gutenberg.

    Book Four in particular contains some ridiculous food imagery. It is here where Pantagruel introduces the Gastrolaters, who worship, above all, the belly. Made me think of LTH, perhaps.

    Rabelais in Book 4, Chapter 58 wrote:As for the Gastrolaters, they stuck close to one another in knots and gangs. Some of them merry, wanton, and soft as so many milk-sops; others louring, grim, dogged, demure, and crabbed; all idle, mortal foes to business, spending half their time in sleeping and the rest in doing nothing, a rent-charge and dead unnecessary weight on the earth, as Hesiod saith; afraid, as we judged, of offending or lessening their paunch. Others were masked, disguised, and so oddly dressed that it would have done you good to have seen them.

    There's a saying, and several ancient sages write, that the skill of nature appears wonderful in the pleasure which she seems to have taken in the configuration of sea-shells, so great is their variety in figures, colours, streaks, and inimitable shapes. I protest the variety we perceived in the dresses of the gastrolatrous coquillons was not less. They all owned Gaster for their supreme god, adored him as a god, offered him sacrifices as to their omnipotent deity, owned no other god, served, loved, and honoured him above all things.

    You would have thought that the holy apostle spoke of those when he said (Phil. chap. 3), Many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly. Pantagruel compared them to the Cyclops Polyphemus, whom Euripides brings in speaking thus: I only sacrifice to myself—not to the gods—and to this belly of mine, the greatest of all the gods.

    I especially love the inventories of Book Four, which don't copy and paste well, but the scope is clear.

    Rabelais in Book 4, Chapter 60 wrote:Pantagruel did not like this pack of rascally scoundrels with their manifold kitchen sacrifices, and would have been gone had not Epistemon prevailed with him to stay and see the end of the farce. He then asked the skipper what the idle lobcocks used to sacrifice to their gorbellied god on interlarded fish-days. For his first course, said the skipper, they gave him:

    Caviare. tops, bishop's-cods, Red herrings.
    Botargoes. celery, chives, ram- Pilchards.
    Fresh butter. pions, jew's-ears (a Anchovies.
    Pease soup. sort of mushrooms Fry of tunny.
    Spinach. that sprout out of Cauliflowers.
    Fresh herrings, full old elders), spara- Beans.
    roed. gus, wood-bind, Salt salmon.
    Salads, a hundred and a world of Pickled grigs.
    varieties, of cres- others. Oysters in the shell.
    ses, sodden hop-

    Then he must drink, or the devil would gripe him at the throat; this, therefore, they take care to prevent, and nothing is wanting. Which being done, they give him lampreys with hippocras sauce:

    Gurnards. Thornbacks. Fried oysters.
    Salmon trouts. Sleeves. Cockles.
    Barbels, great and Sturgeons. Prawns.
    small. Sheath-fish. Smelts.
    Roaches. Mackerels. Rock-fish.
    Cockerels. Maids. Gracious lords.
    Minnows. Plaice. Sword-fish.
    Skate-fish. Sharplings. Soles.
    Lamprels. Tunnies. Mussels.
    Jegs. Silver eels. Lobsters.
    Pickerels. Chevins. Great prawns.
    Golden carps. Crayfish. Dace.
    Burbates. Pallours. Bleaks.
    Salmons. Shrimps. Tenches.
    Salmon-peels. Congers. Ombres.
    Dolphins. Porpoises. Fresh cods.
    Barn trouts. Bases. Dried melwels.
    Miller's-thumbs. Shads. Darefish.
    Precks. Murenes, a sort of Fausens, and grigs.
    Bret-fish. lampreys. Eel-pouts.
    Flounders. Graylings. Tortoises.
    Sea-nettles. Smys. Serpents, i.e. wood-
    Mullets. Turbots. eels.
    Gudgeons. Trout, not above a Dories.
    Dabs and sandings. foot long. Moor-game.
    Haddocks. Salmons. Perches.
    Carps. Meagers. Loaches.
    Pikes. Sea-breams. Crab-fish.
    Bottitoes. Halibuts. Snails and whelks.
    Rochets. Dog's tongue, or kind Frogs.
    Sea-bears. fool.

    If, when he had crammed all this down his guttural trapdoor, he did not immediately make the fish swim again in his paunch, death would pack him off in a trice. Special care is taken to antidote his godship with vine-tree syrup. Then is sacrificed to him haberdines, poor-jack, minglemangled, mismashed, &c.

    Eggs fried, beaten, sliced, roasted in Green-fish.
    buttered, poached, the embers, tossed Sea-batts.
    hardened, boiled, in the chimney, &c. Cod's sounds.
    broiled, stewed, Stock-fish. Sea-pikes.

    Which to concoct and digest the more easily, vinegar is multiplied. For the latter part of their sacrifices they offer:

    Rice milk, and hasty Stewed prunes, and Raisins.
    pudding. baked bullace. Dates.
    Buttered wheat, and Pistachios, or fistic Chestnut and wal-
    flummery. nuts. nuts.
    Water-gruel, and Figs. Filberts.
    milk-porridge. Almond butter. Parsnips.
    Frumenty and bonny Skirret root. Artichokes.
    clamber. White-pot.
    Perpetuity of soaking with the whole.

    It was none of their fault, I will assure you, if this same god of theirs was not publicly, preciously, and plentifully served in the sacrifices, better yet than Heliogabalus's idol; nay, more than Bel and the Dragon in Babylon, under King Belshazzar. Yet Gaster had the manners to own that he was no god, but a poor, vile, wretched creature. And as King Antigonus, first of the name, when one Hermodotus (as poets will flatter, especially princes) in some of his fustian dubbed him a god, and made the sun adopt him for his son, said to him: My lasanophore (or, in plain English, my groom of the close-stool) can give thee the lie; so Master Gaster very civilly used to send back his bigoted worshippers to his close-stool, to see, smell, taste, philosophize, and examine what kind of divinity they could pick out of his sir-reverence.

    Great stuff, right?!
  • Post #22 - April 16th, 2011, 10:28 am
    Post #22 - April 16th, 2011, 10:28 am Post #22 - April 16th, 2011, 10:28 am
    This is a freaky coincidence. Just last night I read in a Craig Claiborne essay: "When we first explored the great restaurants of Paris and France we willingly played Pantagruel morning, noon, and night, sampling any dish that issued forth ..."
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #23 - February 7th, 2012, 1:50 pm
    Post #23 - February 7th, 2012, 1:50 pm Post #23 - February 7th, 2012, 1:50 pm
    "I walked away, in no hurry, but just walking, down the path and home, thinking nothing and seeing little. I went in round the back, in the quiet, and saw the light where Owen was working and went in to him. His face was wet with sweat, but his eyes were bright with smiles as he looked up at me, and back to the engine.
    'Come on, boy,' he said, 'missing the best of it, you are, man. Give me the number three, now, quick.'
    I gave him the tool from its place in the rack and thought of poor Marged and started to cry, but Owen was too busy on the engine to notice.
    'Now, then,' he said, 'you prime her, and I will start her. Huw, my little one, you are helping to make history. Hold on now.'
    He put the handle crank in, and I stood above the funnel, with the tin of spirit ready to pour in.
    'Right, you,' he said.
    In I poured the spirit, and tears dropped with it, but Owen was winding and winding, with the engine waking up at every turn. And now it fired, and fired again, and Owen turned no longer but pulled the handle clear, and looked as though to make it run by his will. Quick as quick the firing came until it was in a storm of firing, shaking the place under my feet, making me clench my jaws.
    The engine was going. After years, it was going.
    Owen looked and looked and then threw the crank to the roof and started to dance with his knees bent high, shouting, but barely to be heard.
    The door slammed back and my father came in with his eyes wide, going from Owen to the engine, and my mother and Bron behind with some of the people next door, all surprised and some of them afraid, speechless in the noise. My father looked at me, smiling, but I was crying and nothing would stop me.
    I could see Marged so plain in the fire.
    My mother ran across to me, pushing Owen and telling him to stop the engine, and my father lifted me over the heat of it, and carried me into the kitchen."


    - How Green Was My Valley, Richard Llewellyn

    It's probably just a coincidence. Just sayin'.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #24 - February 7th, 2012, 4:01 pm
    Post #24 - February 7th, 2012, 4:01 pm Post #24 - February 7th, 2012, 4:01 pm
    There's this old chestnut that's stuck with me all these years:

    John Steinbeck wrote:While he ate his sandwich and sipped his beer, a bit of conversation came back to him. Blaisedell, the poet, had said to him, “You love beer so much, I’ll bet someday you’ll go in and order a beer milk shake.” It was a simple piece of foolery but it had bothered Doc ever since. He wondered what a beer milk shake would taste like. The idea gagged him but he couldn’t let it alone. It cropped up every time he had a glass of beer. Would it curdle the milk? Would you add sugar? It was like a shrimp ice cream. Once the thing got into your head you couldn’t forget it. He finished his sandwich and paid Herman. He purposely didn’t look at the milk shake machines lined up so shiny against the back wall. If a man ordered a beer milk shake, he thought, he’d better do it in a town where he wasn’t known. But then, a man with a beard, ordering a beer milk shake in a town where he wasn’t known—they might call the police.

    —from Cannery Row
  • Post #25 - February 7th, 2012, 4:15 pm
    Post #25 - February 7th, 2012, 4:15 pm Post #25 - February 7th, 2012, 4:15 pm
    I like it. Thanks, Titus.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #26 - February 10th, 2012, 11:14 pm
    Post #26 - February 10th, 2012, 11:14 pm Post #26 - February 10th, 2012, 11:14 pm
    From the legend of sleepy hollow--I have never forgotten these passages as food looms large in my psyche.

    The pedagogue's mouth watered as he looked upon this sumptuous promise of luxurious winter fare. In his devouring mind's eye, he pictured to himself every roasting-pig running about with a pudding in his belly, and an apple in his mouth; the pigeons were snugly put to bed in a comfortable pie, and tucked in with a coverlet of crust; the geese were swimming in their own gravy; and the ducks pairing cosily in dishes, like snug married couples, with a decent competency of onion sauce. In the porkers he saw carved out the future sleek side of bacon, and juicy relishing ham; not a turkey but he beheld daintily trussed up, with its gizzard under its wing, and, peradventure, a necklace of savory sausages; and even bright chanticleer himself lay sprawling on his back, in a side dish, with uplifted claws, as if craving that quarter which his chivalrous spirit disdained to ask while living.....

    and......

    Fain would I pause to dwell upon the world of charms that burst upon the enraptured gaze of my hero, as he entered the state parlor of Van Tassel's mansion. Not those of the bevy of buxom lasses, with their luxurious display of red and white; but the ample charms of a genuine Dutch country tea-table, in the sumptuous time of autumn. Such heaped up platters of cakes of various and almost indescribable kinds, known only to experienced Dutch housewives! There was the doughty doughnut, the tender oly koek, and the crisp and crumbling cruller; sweet cakes and short cakes, ginger cakes and honey cakes, and the whole family of cakes. And then there were apple pies, and peach pies, and pumpkin pies; besides slices of ham and smoked beef; and moreover delectable dishes of preserved plums, and peaches, and pears, and quinces; not to mention broiled shad and roasted chickens; together with bowls of milk and cream, all mingled higgledy-piggledy, pretty much as I have enumerated them, with the motherly teapot sending up its clouds of vapor from the midst—Heaven bless the mark! I want breath and time to discuss this banquet as it deserves, and am too eager to get on with my story. Happily, Ichabod Crane was not in so great a hurry as his historian, but did ample justice to every dainty.
    Toria

    "I like this place and willingly could waste my time in it" - As You Like It,
    W. Shakespeare
  • Post #27 - February 11th, 2012, 1:25 pm
    Post #27 - February 11th, 2012, 1:25 pm Post #27 - February 11th, 2012, 1:25 pm
    Toria, I like that, and I'm inspired now to get "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" from the library to read; all I have here in the house is the Bing Crosby-narrated cartoon video, which, despite its being in color, does not convey nearly as colorfully the appetite of the pedagogue.

    Like your tag line as well, and now I have to read "As You Like It" too.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #28 - February 11th, 2012, 10:49 pm
    Post #28 - February 11th, 2012, 10:49 pm Post #28 - February 11th, 2012, 10:49 pm
    Glad to inspire. You can read the legend of sleepy hollow on line and all of shakespeares plays and sonnets too. also do not forget to watch the tim burton version of legend of sleepy hollow. Its very atmospheric and stars Johnny depp. You will like it.
    Toria

    "I like this place and willingly could waste my time in it" - As You Like It,
    W. Shakespeare
  • Post #29 - March 7th, 2016, 8:48 pm
    Post #29 - March 7th, 2016, 8:48 pm Post #29 - March 7th, 2016, 8:48 pm
    My daughter recently pointed me towards a short story written in a food blog format. It's not high literature, but it's an interesting hook into a story, and I thought I'd share it here.

    http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/kritzer_11_15/
    “Assuredly it is a great accomplishment to be a novelist, but it is no mediocre glory to be a cook.” -- Alexandre Dumas

    "I give you Chicago. It is no London and Harvard. It is not Paris and buttermilk. It is American in every chitling and sparerib. It is alive from tail to snout." -- H.L. Mencken

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