nsxtasy wrote:I should mention, I've eaten at Chez Panisse Cafe (the upstairs casual restaurant) in the past couple of years, and I thought it was really mediocre - not dreadful, but totally ordinary, with absolutely nothing worth writing about. I could probably come up with something comparable here, but if I did, it wouldn't be a place I'd recommend.
Amata wrote:Totally agree with boudreaulicious. By the way, C.P. Cafe was also my favorite restaurant during the years I lived in Berkeley.
North Pond has a similar dedication to local ingredients, but the price of a meal there is about three times that of a meal at C.P. Cafe, so it's not going to fit what the OP is looking for.
I'd suggest trying Nightwood. Really good food, local ingredients, with a warm and relaxed atmosphere.
Amata wrote:North Pond has a similar dedication to local ingredients, but the price of a meal there is about three times that of a meal at C.P. Cafe, so it's not going to fit what the OP is looking for.
I'd suggest trying Nightwood. Really good food, local ingredients, with a warm and relaxed atmosphere.
Amata wrote:North Pond seasonal tasting menu is currently $90. Chez Panisse Cafe's menu du jour: $30.
North Pond is quite comparable to the downstairs restaurant at Chez Panisse, where the fixed menu runs $85 on weeknights and $100 on weekends. North Pond and downstairs Chez Panisse are big deal restaurants; Chez Panisse cafe is an informal place where you can happily have just a pizza and a salad.
I wish North Pond would open up a less expensive cafe, like Chez Panisse Cafe!
Shincke wrote:Thanks, all, for the great recs . Nightwood has been on my list for some time, Pleasant House is one of my favorite spots in the city (especially when paired with a trip to the patio at Maria's Packaged Goods), and I now have a good excuse to revisit North Pond. Vera, Anteprima, and Uncommon Ground are all new to me, so thanks.
To be clear, the choice of CP Cafe vs. CP Restaurant is not a budget choice (at least not for me) -- if you tried to replicate the downstairs menu in the cafe (and you can get pretty close), the cost is the same. I'm pretty sure that the $30 menu upstairs is either lunch only or Monday only. The real question is whether you want a quieter meal and a fixed menu or a slightly warmer atmosphere and choice. It really depends on your mood and your company -- I found myself picking the Cafe almost every time.
@nsxtasy -- sorry you had a middling experience -- I hope you give it another try. The meal that I had there last week was near perfection.
Cheers,
Matt