nr706 wrote:"au jus," as in "I'll have the roast beef with au jus."

That's just bad language use, like my friend of a friend in a housing development called "The Los Altos Heights"

I'd just be happy if the server pronounces it "zhoo" instead of sounding like it's got a sauce made from members my ancestors' faith.

nr706 wrote:"au jus," as in "I'll have the roast beef with au jus."

It would be okay if people didn't use the redundant "with."

EvA wrote:

nr706 wrote:"au jus," as in "I'll have the roast beef with au jus."

It would be okay if people didn't use the redundant "with."

Yes, but many people think the name of the sauce is "au jus." I've even seen packaged "concentrate of au jus."

nr706 wrote:

EvA wrote:

nr706 wrote:"au jus," as in "I'll have the roast beef with au jus."

It would be okay if people didn't use the redundant "with."

Yes, but many people think the name of the sauce is "au jus." I've even seen packaged "concentrate of au jus."

C'est vrai, more's the pity.

EvA wrote:

nr706 wrote:

EvA wrote:It would be okay if people didn't use the redundant "with."

Yes, but many people think the name of the sauce is "au jus." I've even seen packaged "concentrate of au jus."

C'est vrai, more's the pity.

What's the soup du jour today?

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riddlemay wrote:Craft Cocktail Program.

Thought of your post when I saw the Eater headline today, "Craft Cocktail Bar G & O Set To Open Mid-February."

"Craft cocktail bar" sounds like an establishment created by the Department of Redundancy Department.

Teresa wrote:Xiao long bao. Seriously, lth. It is a soup dumpling.
You've had better outside of Chicago. Get over it. Move on. Just a personal pet peeve.

Ever been successful ordering "soup dumplings" at a Chinese
restaurant? Good luck actually getting what you're hoping for.

I suppose since we shouldn't use its true Chinese name, it would be
only fair to rid ourselves of terms such as foie gras and simply start
calling it goose liver. Let’s stop using the word spaghetti and start using "little strings" instead. Or how about we start calling paella Spanish rice? Hell, with that logic, I might as well start calling carne en su jugo “meat in its own juices”?

And what does “You’ve had better outside of Chicago” have to do with whether you call them soup dumplings or xiao long bao?

Sounds like culinary Sino-xenophobia to me.

PIGMON wrote:Ever been successful ordering "soup dumplings" at a Chinese
restaurant? Good luck actually getting what you're hoping for.

I suppose in my careless effort to be blasé, I wasn't clear. I don't want to ban the word "xiao long bao" per se; I'd rather see no mention of xlb at all. It was a commentary on how this one particular food is fetishized incessantly on the board. How the wrapper was gummy or dry, how the soup was hot or congealed or there was no soup at all, how it stuck to the steamer or was served improperly with or without a spoon, and so on. When someone finds xlb that rises to the level whatever transcendent preparation they've had outside of Chicago, then maybe that is something worth mentioning. Maybe I just don't "get" the clamor for this one particular type of dumpling. Maybe it was a joke.

But you're right; that isn't really the spirit of this thread. Thanks for reigning me in, dude. Performing a service to us all.

Your friend-who-eats-enough-with-you-that-you-should-know-I-am-not,
The Culinary Sino-Xenophobe

Teresa wrote:

PIGMON wrote:Your friend-who-eats-enough-with-you-that-you-should-know-I-am-not,
The Culinary Sino-Xenophobe

Just got carried away there, Teresa. (What a shocker! ). Appy-polly loggies.

Lunch sometime next week at Lao You Ju for some soup dumplings....err...xlb?

I'm puzzled by the polemic against arugula too. A finer, more bitter green I do not know. It can be misapplied, for sure. On the other hand, some of the overabundance of arugula goes hand in hand with certain dishes that might be overused these days. But since they are dishes I love, such as veal alla Milanese and pizza with prosciutto and arugula, I don't mind. I'd even drink booze made with the stuff - rucolino - if I could find it.

My latest peeve is the the now ubiquitous stoner/slacker/surfer "no worries." I don't mid "no worries" from a dreadlocked local whose swell or snow I am trespassing upon, but I hate it from some dude I just asked to bring me the spoon that he forgot with my soup. I'm not worried and, apparently, neither is he.

Might just be me but I'd like to ban the use of "source" in place of "find" or "buy" or "get" or any other normal word.

MKL wrote:Might just be me but I'd like to ban the use of "source" in place of "find" or "buy" or "get" or any other normal word.

AKA nounification, AKA nominalization, and it grates on most people's nerves: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... blogs&_r=0

I'd like to ban the use of "reigned" when "reined" is the correct word.

What's the soup du jour today?

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This makes me cringe just like "garlic aioli"