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    Post #1 - August 15th, 2005, 1:26 pm
    Post #1 - August 15th, 2005, 1:26 pm Post #1 - August 15th, 2005, 1:26 pm
    I admit it: Metropolis is the only coffeehouse and roaster that I like in the Chicago area. But since it is so far away from the cheese cave, I've had to find other alternatives to my metropolis-based coffee lifestyle.

    Recently I've become addicted to the fine roasts from Terroir Select Coffees, a micro roaster in Acton, MA.

    Those of you living in the Boston area in the late '80s and early '90s may remember Coffee Connection, a much beloved roaster that was unceremoniously purchased by Starbucks. George Howell, the wacky founder, signed a 10 year non-compete. In 2004 he was released and immediately began his Terroir Select Coffee operation, to select, roast, and sell the best coffee that he could get his hands on.

    George isn't just a roaster, he's a coffee evangelist and pioneer. He has been a coffee quality consultant in central and south america and has worked to break the commodity/price cycle in coffee through work with the UN and Cup of Excellence, a organization he founded. The gist - he produces a coffee that is not only amazingly delicious, but has a great social pedigree.

    The coffee isn't cheap - they charge upwards of $24/lb for coffee that has been roasted just for you. They roast only twice a week, just enough to fill the orders they receive. They don't keep extra roasted inventory on hand.

    The website is organized by country, and George sells mostly single-estate coffees with which he has direct relationships. He is getting the best of the best.

    For those of you wanting to try aged coffee, they are currently selling a 3 year old aged Sumatra, the only varietal that can be successfully aged. The other coffees are definitely worth trying --subtle, sublime, and are to the coffee world what a montrachet is to chardonnay.

    I've been enjoying Terroir's coffee now since the fall, and I have yet to taste a mediocre batch.

    check it out: http://www.terroircoffee.com/store/
  • Post #2 - August 15th, 2005, 2:26 pm
    Post #2 - August 15th, 2005, 2:26 pm Post #2 - August 15th, 2005, 2:26 pm
    Queijo wrote:I admit it: Metropolis is the only coffeehouse and roaster that I like in the Chicago area. But since it is so far away from the cheese cave, I've had to find other alternatives to my metropolis-based coffee lifestyle.

    Recently I've become addicted to the fine roasts from Terroir Select Coffees, a micro roaster in Acton, MA.

    Those of you living in the Boston area in the late '80s and early '90s may remember Coffee Connection, a much beloved roaster that was unceremoniously purchased by Starbucks. George Howell, the wacky founder, signed a 10 year non-compete. In 2004 he was released and immediately began his Terroir Select Coffee operation, to select, roast, and sell the best coffee that he could get his hands on.


    Thanks for the word, Quiejo. I lived in Boston until late '97 and watched the whole dismaying process of the Coffee Connection's dismantling. I'm glad to see Howell is back, and this is one endeavor that looks worth supporting.
  • Post #3 - August 15th, 2005, 4:09 pm
    Post #3 - August 15th, 2005, 4:09 pm Post #3 - August 15th, 2005, 4:09 pm
    Thanks for the great referral. I've been quite taken aback by the quality of the coffee that I have been ordering from Blue Bottle in Oakland.

    I look forward to trying Terroir.
  • Post #4 - August 16th, 2005, 7:29 am
    Post #4 - August 16th, 2005, 7:29 am Post #4 - August 16th, 2005, 7:29 am
    Once you try Terroir, I'd love to hear how it compares to da Bottle -- blend matched, of course.
  • Post #5 - August 18th, 2005, 11:59 am
    Post #5 - August 18th, 2005, 11:59 am Post #5 - August 18th, 2005, 11:59 am
    This Month's issue of Chow magazine has an article about microroasters, and pays proper tribute to Blue Bottle, along with Metropolis and a few others.

    Check it out -- unfortunately, you have to buy a hardcopy. No weblinks here.
  • Post #6 - August 18th, 2005, 2:14 pm
    Post #6 - August 18th, 2005, 2:14 pm Post #6 - August 18th, 2005, 2:14 pm
    I've been quite happy with the coffee from a local roaster, coffee maria. The website shows Addison, although the package shows another address, Hanover Park, or some such place.
    Indian Mysore beans and Ethiopian Harrar are exceptional..

    http://www.coffeemaria.com/
  • Post #7 - August 19th, 2005, 9:17 pm
    Post #7 - August 19th, 2005, 9:17 pm Post #7 - August 19th, 2005, 9:17 pm
    Hello everyone,

    I found a local coffeehouse on my last trip to Nashville that roasts its own beans---Bongo Java. They will ship here, and the quality is high. My personal favorite is the Immaculate Percolation blend (there's a story there, go to the website to see & read about the "nun bun"). Since I live in the suburbs & would otherwise have only Starbucks, I depend on them!

    www.bongojava.com
  • Post #8 - September 27th, 2005, 2:40 pm
    Post #8 - September 27th, 2005, 2:40 pm Post #8 - September 27th, 2005, 2:40 pm
    The other week I ordered two blends from Terroir - Las Termopilas and Rwanda. Both were incredible, but Las Termopilas was remarkable -- one of the finest coffees I've had in...forever.

    When I was ordering the coffees (I was sucked in by their weekly email, which I recommend to all) I ended up speaking with Trina, Terroir's head of Marketing, who happened to answer the phone. We got to talking about the coffee business (my employer owns a number of coffee roasting facilities). They currently roast coffee for a number of Boston-area restaurants and a few in other cities. Their antique roaster makes 20 lbs at a time - tiny when compared to most wholesale companies. They are planning to buy another roaster so that they can increase output when demand increases.

    Their coffee is the best, period. They have relationships with all of their producers that George has developed and maintained over the years. Trina told me that they pay several dollars per pound (sometimes close to $5 for certain estates), and do not do any purchasing on the C-market or through associations like Fair Trade. Coffee has been trading this week just under $1.00/lb -- a price that doesn't cover the farmers' costs to produce coffee. Terroir believes that all of their producers should be paid a sustainable wage, not just a 'living wage'. Fair Trade, when you look at the fine print, is a move in the right direction but doesn't go far enough for Terroir.

    From the consumer's perspecitve, Terroir's coffee is very expensive because of the price per pound that they pay and because of the attention to detail and small batches. Twelve ounces of Las Termopilas goes for $19.95, or $26.60 a pound. It is heady stuff. Here's what they say about it: "This certified organic coffee has entwined notes of soft citrus and apple over a subtly smoky base of nuts, coconut and a dash of persisting sweet chocolate. It is full bodied with medium acidity."

    Usually this kind of copy is meaningless to 95% of all coffee drinkers. Yes, some coffee is incredible, but most people are not supertasters. To appreciate Las Termopilas, however, one does not need to be a supertaster. It is that good.

    I have brewed the coffee in three ways: auto-drip, cup filter, and French Press. The French Press produced the most satisfying, nuanced result.

    If you have a few extra dollars, I recommend joining Terroir's email list and ordering their special roasts when made available. Many of the best coffees have limited availability and go fast. Terroir doesn't keep inventory on hand, everything is roasted to order.

    www.terroircoffee.com
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  • Post #9 - September 28th, 2005, 10:13 am
    Post #9 - September 28th, 2005, 10:13 am Post #9 - September 28th, 2005, 10:13 am
    Queijo, I'm on the 6th of 8 "metric pound" selections (as you said, 12 oz) from Terroir, the Kenyan, and loved each one I've tried. The Kenyan reminds me of Coffee Connection in 1993, and it's wonderful. The aged Sumatran is big and complex and probably the best I've tasted from that area (I don't usually like Sumatran all that much, but this I drank with pleasure). I think my favorite so far has been the Rwandan, but each one has been a winner.

    Yes, Terroir's a little pricey (especially with shipping), but very good indeed. Thanks for the recommendation. Have you tried the coffees from La Colombe in Philadelphia? It's been a few years since I did, but I recall enjoying it.
  • Post #10 - September 28th, 2005, 10:30 am
    Post #10 - September 28th, 2005, 10:30 am Post #10 - September 28th, 2005, 10:30 am
    Choey:

    I haven't had La Colombe's coffee, and I'm ashamed. Ashamed because as a food professional visiting Philly many times over the last 5 years I should have sought it out, but haven't. I always go to Miel, though.

    Toscanini's now serves Terroir's coffees - they have a huge irony-laden poster featuring a photo of a hipster with arm-covering tats, holding his cup of coffee with both hands and looking heaven-ward. The copy announces that Toscanini's is now serving George Howell's coffee.

    I didn't see anyone in Toscanini's drinking it.

    Tell me more about drinking the aged Sumatra. I was going to try it but Trina convinced me that I might hate it. What flavors did you pick up, did you share the coffee with others, and how did they respond?

    And have you tried any of their espressos?

    On another Coffee note: have you ever had coffee from Rao's? I ate at Craigie Bistrot and they were 'proudly serving' Rao's - from western Mass.
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  • Post #11 - September 28th, 2005, 12:22 pm
    Post #11 - September 28th, 2005, 12:22 pm Post #11 - September 28th, 2005, 12:22 pm
    Queijo wrote:Tell me more about drinking the aged Sumatra. I was going to try it but Trina convinced me that I might hate it. What flavors did you pick up, did you share the coffee with others, and how did they respond?

    I'm not sure I have the right vocabulary, but I'll do my best wine-snob approximation to coffee: first and foremost, it was not over-roasted like most Sumatra. It was a chestnut brown and smelled of coffee only (no peat, dead insect, rodent dropping overtones like in a Charbucks). The aging gives it a distinct winey/vinegary note, which I expect will be unpleasant for many people, especially young palates. Good spice and earth (the latter in a good way) and beautiful aroma. No rubber or asphalt like many aged Sumatrans. I served it to three people, all of whom gave it the nod, but no one said he was rushing out to buy it. If you like aged coffee, you'll love it; if you don't it won't change your mind.

    I haven't tried their espressos and probably won't. I make execrable espresso at home, judged by the standard of Scaturchio in Naples, and have the good fortune of living near a couple places where one can find a decent caffè.

    Haven't tried Rao's, but I'm stocked up on Terroir for a civilized sojourn in Santa Fe starting tomorrow. Bring on the chile.
  • Post #12 - October 8th, 2005, 7:57 am
    Post #12 - October 8th, 2005, 7:57 am Post #12 - October 8th, 2005, 7:57 am
    Queijo wrote:The other week I ordered two blends from Terroir - Las Termopilas and Rwanda. Both were incredible, but Las Termopilas was remarkable -- one of the finest coffees I've had in...forever.

    Queijo,

    Being the suggestible fellow I am, I followed in your footsteps and ordered both Termopilas and Rwanda. I have not opened the Rwanda yet, but I've made 4-5, over a couple of days, press-pots of Termopilas.

    It's been a while since I used a press-pot and my first effort yielded slightly weak coffee, though a multitude of flavors, not present in my normal brew, were readily apparent. Further attempts have been less successful with results varying between strong enough to melt a spoon, acidic and my favorite, my wife saying "you've got to be kidding" immediately followed by "how much did you pay for this dreck?"

    I'm fairly certain it's my lack of coffee grinding/press-pot skill, not the coffee, as my first (weak) attempt offered a glimpse of the flavor potential. Any suggestions you, or others, wish to offer will be appreciated.

    Enjoy,
    Gary
    One minute to Wapner.
    Raymond Babbitt

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  • Post #13 - October 8th, 2005, 11:17 am
    Post #13 - October 8th, 2005, 11:17 am Post #13 - October 8th, 2005, 11:17 am
    Go back to your regular coffee maker and I predict you'll be happy with the results. I only use the presspot once in a while because it's so finicky about grind, water temperature, and amount of coffee, but if you stick with it, you can figure it out and make great coffee. I like the Rwandan coffee quite a bit. I'm drinking the Brazilian right now.
  • Post #14 - October 9th, 2005, 9:15 am
    Post #14 - October 9th, 2005, 9:15 am Post #14 - October 9th, 2005, 9:15 am
    Choey wrote:Go back to your regular coffee maker and I predict you'll be happy with the results.

    Choey,

    Thanks for the advice, which I followed this morning. Still slightly on the weak side, I don't think I ground the coffee fine enough, but noticeably better.

    I think I'll go buy a pound of Dunkin Donuts beans to practice on. Missteps are a lot less irksome for $5.99 per lb. :)

    Enjoy,
    Gary
    One minute to Wapner.
    Raymond Babbitt

    Low & Slow
  • Post #15 - October 10th, 2005, 7:51 am
    Post #15 - October 10th, 2005, 7:51 am Post #15 - October 10th, 2005, 7:51 am
    Choey wrote:Go back to your regular coffee maker and I predict you'll be happy with the results. I only use the presspot once in a while because it's so finicky about grind, water temperature, and amount of coffee, but if you stick with it, you can figure it out and make great coffee. I like the Rwandan coffee quite a bit. I'm drinking the Brazilian right now.


    I've been a presspot man for ages. Not that long ago, the Condiment Queen read somewhere that filters filtered out some kinda cancer causing agent within coffee and we switched to the Krupps, but then she did one of her periodic giving up on coffee's, and I got the presspot back in use.

    I have a pretty good sense of how much beans to put in the grinder. I let the kettle come to a full boil then wait about 20 seconds before pouring and wait 4 minutes (roughly I do not set the timer) before plunging. That's the easy part.

    The crap part is the clean-up. Use a drip pot, and it's zip-zap-zooey, throw the filter away. With the presspot, well it gives you something to do while the water boils...The other thing that is vexing about my current pot is that the filter is nearly useless. I have to hold a second strainer between the pot and the cup to keep the grounds out.

    Rob
    Think Yiddish, Dress British - Advice of Evil Ronnie to me.
  • Post #16 - October 10th, 2005, 8:08 am
    Post #16 - October 10th, 2005, 8:08 am Post #16 - October 10th, 2005, 8:08 am
    What press pots do you all have? Brands, etc.

    Just curious :)
    Ed Fisher
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  • Post #17 - October 10th, 2005, 10:05 am
    Post #17 - October 10th, 2005, 10:05 am Post #17 - October 10th, 2005, 10:05 am
    Mea culpa, sorry I couldn't offer press-pot advice before disaster struck. The key with a press-pot is a coarser grind as you will keep it in contact with water longer than if you used a drip coffee maker. I use a lot of coffee when I make myself two cups - I'm a big fan of strong black coffee. The grind is going to be bigger than anything you would use with a filter - maybe as coarse as some kinds of aquarium sand? I found this press pot tutorial which may offer some salvation.

    You may consider adding a little more coffee to the filter brew basket, too. Don't forget that Las Termopilas is a medium roast, and will not have the characteristics of a heavy dark roast. Dunkin Donuts blend, also a medium (to light) roast will vaguely approximate it in body.

    Good luck!

    And I use Bodum, Melior 8 cup.
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  • Post #18 - October 10th, 2005, 11:11 am
    Post #18 - October 10th, 2005, 11:11 am Post #18 - October 10th, 2005, 11:11 am
    Not trying to hijack the thread, but as a sidelight, if anyone's considering an inexpensive coffee while learning to use their presspot, the new issue of Cook's Illustrated reviews a number of inexpensive whole-bean coffees.
  • Post #19 - October 10th, 2005, 11:33 am
    Post #19 - October 10th, 2005, 11:33 am Post #19 - October 10th, 2005, 11:33 am
    Which coffees do they recommend? If they are mail order, they fit the thread....
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  • Post #20 - October 10th, 2005, 11:44 am
    Post #20 - October 10th, 2005, 11:44 am Post #20 - October 10th, 2005, 11:44 am
    It was primarily supermarket whole bean coffees.

    For lighter roasts, they liked "Our Blend" from "Green Mountain Coffee Roasters" best, with Eight O'Clock Coffee in second place. Bottom choices were Folger's and Dunkin Donuts.

    Darker roasts, the winners (a virtual tie) were Millstone Columbian Supremo and Starbucks' house blend. Bottom choices were Seattle's Best and Chock Full O' Nuts.
    Ed Fisher
    my chicago food photos

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  • Post #21 - October 10th, 2005, 8:20 pm
    Post #21 - October 10th, 2005, 8:20 pm Post #21 - October 10th, 2005, 8:20 pm
    For the price of Terroir's beans, you can very quickly buy your own roaster and start making your own Kenyan AA for $5.30/lbs. Also, beans are peak at 12-72 hours after roasting. So unless you are buying fresh roasts every few days, you are missing peak flavor.

    $26/lbs is pretty steep. The most expensive beans, Jamaica Blue Mountain -Mavis Bank, from http://www.sweetmarias.com is a steal compared to theirs.

    Roasting isn't tough and the rewards are wonderful.

    Kit
    duck fat rules
  • Post #22 - October 11th, 2005, 6:20 am
    Post #22 - October 11th, 2005, 6:20 am Post #22 - October 11th, 2005, 6:20 am
    Actually, the point of buying from Terroir is 1) supporting specific estates and cooperatives that have relationships with George Howell, who pays a much better-than-fair trade price for the beans and no auction coffee; 2) enjoying George Howell's craftsmanship. Given that one typically buys about 12 ounces at a time, it is easy to enjoy the coffee at peak. In five days the coffee is gone.

    Home roasting is great, don't get me wrong. I agree that home roasting is a very satisfying way to enjoy coffee and if I drank enough coffee I'm sure I would consider it. With a resource like Sweet Maria's I'd have no hesitation. But for me it is more than about saving a couple dollars: my reasons for evangelizing and enjoying Terroir's coffee has everything to do with supporting a business that I believe is making a difference and roasting great coffee. If my order allows them to buy that much more from the estate (or cooperative) then I'll keep ordering, even at Blue Mountain-level prices. If the coffee sucked, no way. But it is good, really good. And to my mind, worth every penny.

    It is worth reading George's intro and statement on the website.
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  • Post #23 - October 11th, 2005, 9:21 am
    Post #23 - October 11th, 2005, 9:21 am Post #23 - October 11th, 2005, 9:21 am
    Looking over the beans available at Sweet Maria's, I don't think Terroir is offering anything different other than roasting. FTO, coop, single estate. They are all there.

    If beans did not go to auction, then how would one know how much to pay? The only way would be to have a grower withold some and wait until after the auction. Then George could pay more if he liked. Auctions benefit everybody, especially the grower.

    I think that this is a recent development with the explosion of demand for specialty coffee. In part, thanks to Starbucks, although I hate to admit that.

    George's quest was unique at one time. As a former Coffee Connection customer, I can attest. But lots of folks are going to the source to bring excellent coffees to the world. His efforts are responsible for the availabilty, quality, and improved economics for the growers, but he is no longer unique.

    Thank you, George. Thank you, Sweet Maria's.

    Kit
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  • Post #24 - October 11th, 2005, 10:09 am
    Post #24 - October 11th, 2005, 10:09 am Post #24 - October 11th, 2005, 10:09 am
    I don't think George is a relic. He pioneered some of things we take for granted in coffee now - the support of estates, cooperative, and single origin coffees. But with Terroir he does take it a half step in a new direction.

    George is actually doing something different -- Sweet Maria's supports financially the various groups that contribute to the worker/grower/estate, whereas George directly supports the grower. There is a difference between giving the grower an extra $.30 and an extra $3.00 per pound. That's pretty sizable. The point isn't that Sweet Maria's (or anyone else) can't get single estate -- they obviously can. It is that George is willing to pay a price per pound that goes above and beyond what other roasters pay.

    As far as auctions go, yes, they create a perfect market, but they can also eliminate the direct relationship between the grower and the purchaser. Auctions are not a necessity in purchasing a commodity if there is value added - does Niman Ranch base pork prices on the commodity market, or are they set based on cost and value? As you suggest, using past auction pricing as a benchmark, an estate working with someone like George could set a price that makes economic sense for all. In another scenario, if a George-type buys a harvest before it is harvested, then there is absolutely no need for auction.

    But if you don't like those arguments, there is always the roasting. The antique equipment isn't something you will just pick up for home use. And it does produce a superior roast. The coffee is just darn good, and the ethics behind it -- good too.

    The bottom line? Terroir roasts some durn good coffee, and to my money, it is worth it. I'm glad home roasters, institutional roasters, boutique roasters, and all the other categories of roasters can co-exist, because it makes the whole mishbucha that much more interesting. And pushes the institutional roasters to change the way they purchase and roast coffee. If a change in consumer purchasing behavior can get the big 4 (Nestle, P&G, Kraft and Sara Lee) to change, then everyone involved in the coffee value chain will benefit.
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  • Post #25 - October 18th, 2005, 12:29 pm
    Post #25 - October 18th, 2005, 12:29 pm Post #25 - October 18th, 2005, 12:29 pm
    Queijo,
    Thought you might enjoy this.
    http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com/about/press/09-23-2005

    Kit
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  • Post #26 - October 18th, 2005, 1:24 pm
    Post #26 - October 18th, 2005, 1:24 pm Post #26 - October 18th, 2005, 1:24 pm
    Thanks Kit...Terroir posted it on their site, too!
    -Q
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  • Post #27 - November 1st, 2005, 4:12 pm
    Post #27 - November 1st, 2005, 4:12 pm Post #27 - November 1st, 2005, 4:12 pm
    Tom from Sweet Maria's just posted this on Free Trade coffee. Pretty interesting....

    Kit

    It's a HUGE topic and I think over time, with reading, you figure out a position for yourself. In the trade, there are people who chant the Fair Trade mantra, people who don't give a crap and want to pay the lowest price, and everyone in between. The later group is irrelevant because they don't care about quality coffee. Let's just nibble off a piece of the discussion and address those in the trade who visit the farms, who know the reality, who care (for a variety of reasons) about the process, and who know (and care) about cup quality. Those people are probably all offering some Fair Trade coffee, and the majority of these truly "caring" people have a problem with Fair Trade to some degree. They, okay, we ... see it as a band-aid, something for the here and now, but not a solution. It's a bad model to solve the problem. What most people who care about the farms they deal with end up doing is making arrangements outside of the coffee market (the new york c), oftentimes paying
    higher than FT prices, for a consistent supply. Some call it "relationship coffee". Good companies just do this, and don't make a huge fuss about it. After all, one of the issues with FT is that it is a badge of "good conscience" and most sane people feel a little queasy about that dynamic. And appealing to conscience to sell really impacts a very small portion of the market, and a small sliver of the coffee farms out there.

    I have been walking 10 yards behind the "Quality Coffee" bandwagon, meaning that if a consumer buys good quality coffee, they will be most likely buying coffee that the farmer was paid well for. This holds a lot of weight (because I can guarantee you if you buy a major brand of roasted-ground coffee, farmers got screwed). The problem that has come up is this: because "Specialty Coffee", ie Quality Coffee was a growing segment and there are higher margins made by broners on smaller amounts sold, all these giant multi-national brokers opened up "Specialty" divisions. In many cases, they simply diverted containers of coffee that cupped reasonably well from their "commodity" division to their "Specialty" division. They didn't necessarily pay a penny more for the coffee, they dressed it up with a name and sold it as "Specialty Coffee". These are companies I do little to no business with, but I can say that a lot of roasters Big and small, and a lot of green coffee sellers do ...
    in fact some have their entire selection from these brokers. Now, this doesn't shoot my "Quality" theory to hell, but it has a big hole in it. Nonetheless, I know what I do here every day, I know how I deal with the farms, and I am pretty damn proud of it. But I am not going to make a slogan out of it, or a bumpersticker. It's really not a political thing, it's just that a lot of people in coffee realize we rely on the farmers, and we have to pay so they can do a good job. It makes sense, and our businesses are based on it.

    Thanks for bringing up a good topic. I have recommended people read the Oxfam report on coffee, but it is a little dated now. The best thing in it is an acknowledgment of the MASSIVE influence that the Big 4 coffee companies have in the coffee trade. And, yes, we do support and sell fair trade coffee too....

    Tom
    duck fat rules
  • Post #28 - January 18th, 2006, 9:47 am
    Post #28 - January 18th, 2006, 9:47 am Post #28 - January 18th, 2006, 9:47 am
    -Q,

    Mark Prince from Coffegeek.com has a 2 part interview with George Howell on podcasts. You can download these by loading the page and then "save page as".

    http://www.coffeegeek.com/podcasts/cgpodcast_002.mp3
    http://www.coffeegeek.com/podcasts/cgpodcast_004.mp3

    This years' Kona harvest is in. Have you tried any? I have the Kowali and it is excellent.

    Kit
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  • Post #29 - January 18th, 2006, 4:40 pm
    Post #29 - January 18th, 2006, 4:40 pm Post #29 - January 18th, 2006, 4:40 pm
    I had the opportunity to visit a coffee plantation on Kauai a few weeks ago and try lots of their roasts. They're not quite up to Kona standards yet, but they are definitely making progress. The peaberry was excellent, but, and I hesitate to write this here, my favorite (and the one I have already ordered three pounds of since my return home) was the Hawaiian Spice blend. It's flavored and already ground, two normally big no-nos for me, but I can't get enough of the stuff.


    http://www.kauaicoffee.com[/url]
  • Post #30 - January 18th, 2006, 6:18 pm
    Post #30 - January 18th, 2006, 6:18 pm Post #30 - January 18th, 2006, 6:18 pm
    Interesting site. It is a big operation. The green beans are less than half of the better Kona beans.

    I am going to order some of their greens to compare. It is funny how much effect a small environmental aspects has on beans. The altitude on the big island is the most important factor. At lower elevations, Kona is unremarkable and only bought by big marketers who over roast any terrior out of them and sell them as premium. Or worse. They blend them and at only 10% and still sell it as Kona. My brother bought something like that at Whole Foods thinking he was doing a good thing. He paid double what he could have paid for some Inteligentsia or Peet's 2 feet away.

    I am with you on the flavored coffee. I have a hard time even mixing milk in my coffee. Cappuccinos are on the edge for me.

    Kit
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