stevez wrote:Haven't we already done this?
LAZ wrote:Somehow I think the standards for Michelin stars and the GNR Award are somewhat different.
Among other things, Michelin takes some notice of decor.
One disclaimer is that it is almost impossible to predict stars since it seems like Michelin is calibrating locally (i.e., a 3-star in NY or SF so far is not equivalent to a 3-star in Paris).
Mike G wrote:The real question is, what will be the headscratcher? What, like the Spotted Pig, will appear with a star leaving people to wonder what the hell were they thinking, while far grander places are blown off? Chief O'Neill's? Oysy? Chuck's?
3-- Alinea, Everest.
2-- Gleeful joy in denying the top rank to Tru, Trotter, and Spiaggia.
1-- Blackbird, and Topolobampo, dutifully rather than enthusiastically (do the French really like Mexican food? Let me know as soon as one of them tries it).
Dissed and not on the list: Shawn McClain.
JimInLoganSquare wrote:With full recognition of the fallacies and follies that go into the Michelin star ratings, I'll throw in my 2-cents worth and suggest that places like Alinea (due to the avant garde nature of the presentation) and anything Mexican (because of the cultural myopia of the French -- and I love the French, they have been some of my best clients and best friends -- but to repeat, because of the cultural myopia of the French), I'd probably limit any potential Michelin candidates to the less imaginative or newer competitors in the Chicago culinary scene.
jesteinf wrote:JimInLoganSquare wrote:With full recognition of the fallacies and follies that go into the Michelin star ratings, I'll throw in my 2-cents worth and suggest that places like Alinea (due to the avant garde nature of the presentation) and anything Mexican (because of the cultural myopia of the French -- and I love the French, they have been some of my best clients and best friends -- but to repeat, because of the cultural myopia of the French), I'd probably limit any potential Michelin candidates to the less imaginative or newer competitors in the Chicago culinary scene.
I'm not sure I buy that there is an inherent bias against avant garde cuisine. Both The Fat Duck and El Bulli have 3 stars, WD 50 has one.
Mike G wrote:But I think they realized that there wasn't a market in 2004 for a French book totally dissing New York dining as inferior, so they loosened their standards a little to produce the number of winners they had. I would expect the same in Chicago.
eatchicago wrote:Here's what I see:
Three Stars: None
Two Stars: Everest, Tru, Spiaggia, Charlie Trotters, Les Francais
One Star: Blackbird, North Pond, Alinea, Avenues, Gabriel's and a few others including a "surprise" like Vie.
Best,
Michael
jesteinf wrote:eatchicago wrote:Here's what I see:
Three Stars: None
Two Stars: Everest, Tru, Spiaggia, Charlie Trotters, Les Francais
One Star: Blackbird, North Pond, Alinea, Avenues, Gabriel's and a few others including a "surprise" like Vie.
Best,
Michael
Well, that outcome would certainly get people talking (I think Alinea receiving one star would be a total travesty).
Can't we all just agree that Michelin is irrelevant?
eatchicago wrote:Here's what I see:
Three Stars: None
Two Stars: Everest, Tru, Spiaggia, Charlie Trotters, Les Francais
One Star: Blackbird, North Pond, Alinea, Avenues, Gabriel's and a few others including a "surprise" like Vie.
Best,
Michael
eatchicago wrote:jesteinf wrote:eatchicago wrote:Here's what I see:
Three Stars: None
Two Stars: Everest, Tru, Spiaggia, Charlie Trotters, Les Francais
One Star: Blackbird, North Pond, Alinea, Avenues, Gabriel's and a few others including a "surprise" like Vie.
Best,
Michael
Well, that outcome would certainly get people talking (I think Alinea receiving one star would be a total travesty).
But wouldn't you say that it fits their track record?
I agree that no restaurant in Chicago or Chicagoland would ever earn three Michelin stars.
JimInLoganSquare wrote:
I agree that no restaurant in Chicago or Chicagoland would ever earn three Michelin stars.
jesteinf wrote:JimInLoganSquare wrote:
I agree that no restaurant in Chicago or Chicagoland would ever earn three Michelin stars.
In France, I would agree. However, I have a feeling all cities covered in the US are being graded on a bit of a "curve".
ChefGEB wrote:How much weight do these ratings hold anymore? AAA, Mobil, Zagat, Michelin, not to mention the countless other local, national and international review sites that are out there now, seem to be losing their importance with the addition of more and more restaurants to their lists.
With technology being what it is today, diners can post ten page reviews dissecting the “who, what, when, where and why” of their most recent dining escapade. Throw in the fact that you can add pics of the room, dishes, wine, etc, and it leads one to think that the old school model is antiquated and is in dire need of change.