wak wrote:I also salt the pasta water, but use less in the sauce to balance it out.
Cogito wrote:On the cooking directions on most pasta boxes, it will tell you how much water to boil to cook the pound or whatever. It has always struck me that the amount of water recommended seemed rather large. I have cooked pasta in less water than recommended and not noticed any ill effects.
How much water do you use for a pound of rotini, etc.? Two gallons, one gallon, ??? Also, does anyone add anything to their water like olive oil (was told it kept the pasta from sticking together), or salt, or ???
wak wrote:Also, adding salt slightly raises the boiling temperature of the water, which I believe helps in the cooking.
Dmnkly wrote:wak wrote:Also, adding salt slightly raises the boiling temperature of the water, which I believe helps in the cooking.
I have been told by a couple of folks who are trained in the appropriate sciences that while technically correct, you're talking about a fraction of a degree... nothing that's going to be in any way significant. Which is too bad. I like the science-y explanation
Antonius wrote:People often state what they believe to be the right way to cook things as rules and commandments but, at least in my experience, that's not how things work in traditional Italian cooking as practised by serious cooks. There are general rules of thumb but also exceptions -- the trick is to know the difference and that comes through teaching, observation and practical experience.
In any event, I assume the OP's question is actually intended to be the following: For your average pasta asciutta preparation, how much water should I use to boil the pasta?
Now, to that one can give a fairly specific answer: for a pound of pasta you should use about five-six quarts of water. The water should already be salted and have returned to a very vigorous boil when you put the pasta in. Sufficient water and the vigorous boil will both help the pasta to cook properly. The amount of salt to be used is something that is variable, according to the dish in some cases, where the dressing is either rather salty or rather lacking in salt, but also, of course, according to the tastes and health requirements of the consumer. I measure the salt in my hand and can't give an exact quantity but, since everyone needs to figure out how much he or she likes, it's up to you to figure out your own level. No salt at all may be necessary for people with seriously high blood pressure but it will result in tasteless pasta and not even American-style tidal waves of kitchen-sink sauces will be able to change the fact that the pasta itself is tasteless or nearly so. I use a fair amount. And I should add that kosher salt is a fine choice if you're keeping kosher or only have kosher salt on hand; all my Italian friends and relatives, both here and in Italy, use good old industrial salt.
Antonius
N.B. The Bourdain trick mentioned above is perhaps good for restaurant cooking but it is not a traditional or, in my estimation, a generally advisable technique. In that regard, I avoid eating pasta in restaurants, precisely because of the various tricks they use to make service maximally smooth and convenient.
Antonius wrote:And I should add that kosher salt is a fine choice if you're keeping kosher or only have kosher salt on hand; all my Italian friends and relatives, both here and in Italy, use good old industrial salt.
Darren72 wrote:Antonius wrote:And I should add that kosher salt is a fine choice if you're keeping kosher or only have kosher salt on hand; all my Italian friends and relatives, both here and in Italy, use good old industrial salt.
Kosher salt is not called "Kosher" because it *is* kosher (in fact, nearly all salt is kosher). It is called "Kosher salt" because it is the typical type of salt used to kosher meat. It's probably the same salt as your "industrial" stuff, except probably more coarsely ground and (generally) without additives.
Antonius wrote:Darren72 wrote:Antonius wrote:And I should add that kosher salt is a fine choice if you're keeping kosher or only have kosher salt on hand; all my Italian friends and relatives, both here and in Italy, use good old industrial salt.
Kosher salt is not called "Kosher" because it *is* kosher (in fact, nearly all salt is kosher). It is called "Kosher salt" because it is the typical type of salt used to kosher meat. It's probably the same salt as your "industrial" stuff, except probably more coarsely ground and (generally) without additives.
I am well aware of the connexion between kosher salt and the salting of meat in order to drain the blood, etc. but I admit that I have no direct knowledge of or insight into the full complexities of Jewish dietary law; I have observed that Jewish friends of mine generally have kosher salt on hand in the home kitchen (and presumably not for butchering purposes) and that was true decades ago, long before the age of Food Network and Alton Brown and the diffusion of the fact among the general population that kosher salt has properties that cause some chefs to prefer it for some applications... back when pretty much the only people I knew who used kosher salt were, in fact, Jewish. Is that a question of religion or cultural tradition or some combination thereof, or perhaps faulty observation on my part? I don't know. In any event, it was hardly a central point I was making, since the discussion at hand had simply to do with the methods of boiling pasta.
And I also am well aware of the fact that the principal chemical substance in question here is the same in the various salt products available for kitchen use. Texture and the presence of secondary elements is what is at issue in salt choices (kosher, the infinitude of sea salts, 'industrial' products) and since the textural properties of kosher salt are lost when it is dissolved in water, the only remaining issue is that of additional elements present and in particular of additives. 'Industrial' salt is available with and without iodine, so if one doesn't want iodine, one still has a choice between kosher and non-kosher salt.
As I said, if one has only kosher salt on hand, for whatever reason there might be, one should use kosher salt. And if one prefers kosher salt for whatever reason, one should use it. My point was simply that there is no reason to go out of one's way to use kosher salt in seasoning water in which one will boil pasta.
Sundaysous wrote:I've been told cook aldente, never rinse unless you are cooling for salad.
Dmnkly wrote:wak wrote:Also, adding salt slightly raises the boiling temperature of the water, which I believe helps in the cooking.
I have been told by a couple of folks who are trained in the appropriate sciences that while technically correct, you're talking about a fraction of a degree... nothing that's going to be in any way significant. Which is too bad. I like the science-y explanation
Antonius wrote:Italians -- and since the OP used the word 'pasta' and not 'noodles', that seems a reasonable perspective to include here
Darren72 wrote:Kosher salt is not called "Kosher" because it *is* kosher (in fact, nearly all salt is kosher). It is called "Kosher salt" because it is the typical type of salt used to kosher meat. It's probably the same salt as your "industrial" stuff, except probably more coarsely ground and (generally) without additives.
LAZ wrote: However, this science-education site supports my findings, showing a temperature hike of more than 5 degrees over plain water with 2 spoons of salt (not clear whether teaspoons or tablespoons or what kind of salt) to a quart of water.
LAZ wrote:I admit that my attempts to measure the boiling temps failed miserably due to inadequate measuring equipment. However, this science-education site supports my findings, showing a temperature hike of more than 5 degrees over plain water with 2 spoons of salt (not clear whether teaspoons or tablespoons or what kind of salt) to a quart of water.
Howard Hillman in "Kitchen Science" wrote:Salt: Salt, sugar, and practically any other substance elevates the boiling point and therefore shortens cooking time. The difference in temperature between unsalted and salted water (one teaspoon of salt per quart of water) is about 1° to 2° F, a difference that can be critical in cooking situations demanding exactness.
Cogito wrote:but cannot imagine how they could have much effect on anything since the salt is dissolved.