i grew up in skokie and at one time both were open across the street from each other, one was big herms and the other herms palace, an older man named moe owned the little one and the shane family owned the big one and still does today, herms palace was always better in my opinion needing a full time parking lot traffic coordinator lol, the little herms was torn down and later the whole shopping center it was in, to this day i still stop at herms each time i visit mom and scott never forgets my order even if away a year